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Fuiosg
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Just curious, it comes out Wednesday. I might wait awhile and see what the word of mouth is, but being on 8.1 I'm curious to get some of those windows 7 features/workflow back.

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  • DashingDark
    Nope. They'll have to pry Windows Media Center from my cold dead hands.
  • MikeF
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    i'll wait until dx12 becomes more prevalent, aside from that i dont see much of a point. 7 still does the trick just fine
  • WarrenM
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    Windows 8 works well for me and I don't see a need to rock the boat. Not until there's some MUST HAVE thing that I need DX12 for...
  • Fefs
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    I'll try, just because my 8.1 is in a strange bug mode with the fan (it's turned on everytime but when maya or ps is open it came back normal and works only when necessary), so that's is a perfect moment to backup everything and jump
  • Tobbo
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    Tobbo polycounter lvl 9
    Yeah I'm going to give it a shot. I really hope this isn't a mistake.
  • Axcel
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    For me win7 is best option now, DX12 will force me changing it on Win 10 some day.
  • gnoop
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    gnoop interpolator
    Last upgrade was so painful there is no chance I'll do it again soon. And a fact they try to force it so early only makes me more suspicious
  • Fuiosg
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    Fuiosg polycounter lvl 5
    gnoop wrote: »
    Last upgrade was so painful there is no chance I'll do it again soon. And a fact they try to force it so early only makes me more suspicious

    I think they're just trying to shoehorn it into back to school sales, drum up interest since new laptops are coming out around this time, also the surface pro 4 supposedly coming out in October.
  • cryrid
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    cryrid greentooth
    I'll be updating my SP3 for sure. I might hold off on updating my desktop for a little bit just to make sure the upgrade is painless and everything is compatible.
  • PyrZern
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    When I do, it will be when I format my harddrive, for whatever reason. Used to format my PC once yearly. But haven't done that in a 2-3 yrs now.
  • Swizzle
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    I'm going to try it out on my Surface before I even think about putting it on my desktop. I don't want to have to get up to speed with a new operating system on my primary work computer, but I'm more than happy to check it out on something I don't use every day that has a lot of features (like touchscreen/stylus) around which a lot of the new features are designed.

    I'm pretty interested in checking it out; I'm not a huge fan of Windows 8.1's separation between desktop and fullscreen applications and I want something more flexible.
  • .nL
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    Not until someone finds a reliable way to block forced updates (which MS doesn't try to circumvent). I like everything they're doing with the OS, but I don't want to risk MS pushing an update onto my machine that breaks everything I'm doing. I usually like to update once every 3-4 weeks, once I'm certain that there'll be no problems.
  • beefaroni
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    beefaroni sublime tool
    I'll just wait till SP1 or the equivalent. I'm sure in a month or two most 3d software will have updated for Windows 10 if anything critical breaks.
  • Deathstick
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    Deathstick polycounter lvl 7
    Windows 7 until people start to look at me strange, or when the games stop liking it! I did the same with holding on to XP!
  • CreativeHD
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    I'll be sticking with Windows 7 until I know all my software and games work.
  • ZacD
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    I'm going to give it a go on launch, hopefully UE4 releases the DX12 build to the public soon.
  • DireWolf
    The Window key still bring up this ugly $ss large icon thing very similar to Windows 8

    http://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/msw-win10-hero-slider-familiar.png?version=5c6de01f-e719-e050-e3b2-827555f16a64

    Seriously. Windows 7 was the only one that put things into FOLDERS when you go into start menu. Windows 8 no longer do that. All items got laid out in front of you in the most messy way possible. Windows 10 again follow that path.

    This is shit beyond shit.
  • beefaroni
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    @DireWolf - Classic Shell or Start8. They've been around forever.
  • Blond
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    Sincerely, I would willingly do it. I think W 10 interfaces looks clean and nice and all..
  • CreativeHD
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    ZacD wrote: »
    hopefully UE4 releases the DX12 build to the public soon.

    That would be awesome to play with!
  • Ben Apuna
    Last I checked (a few weeks ago) with the Windows 10 preview version there were no Wacom drivers... I don't use a mouse :( Looking at Wacom's driver site my hopes haven't risen any.
  • HeadClot
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    I am really thinking about it.

    Honestly I may just cancel my Reservation for Windows 10 as I am still on Photoshop CS5.
  • oXYnary
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    oXYnary polycounter lvl 16
    Im on an older laptop, and dx12 even with older cards is supposed to be slightly faster. As well as the OS itself. Its free if I upgrade within the year, so, why not?
  • Shrike
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    Definitely moving. 8 is fine and im just waiting for 10 to format and start on a clean os again, I just enjoy formatting everything from time to time and 10 looks slightly better than 8, so why not
  • SonicBlue
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    DireWolf wrote: »
    The Window key still bring up this ugly $ss large icon thing very similar to Windows 8

    http://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/msw-win10-hero-slider-familiar.png?version=5c6de01f-e719-e050-e3b2-827555f16a64

    Seriously. Windows 7 was the only one that put things into FOLDERS when you go into start menu. Windows 8 no longer do that. All items got laid out in front of you in the most messy way possible. Windows 10 again follow that path.

    This is shit beyond shit.

    As far as I remember, you can remove all that crap on the right of the start menu.

    I hope that the HUGE search bar is removable.
  • iadagraca
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    DireWolf wrote: »
    The Window key still bring up this ugly $ss large icon thing very similar to Windows 8

    http://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/msw-win10-hero-slider-familiar.png?version=5c6de01f-e719-e050-e3b2-827555f16a64

    Seriously. Windows 7 was the only one that put things into FOLDERS when you go into start menu. Windows 8 no longer do that. All items got laid out in front of you in the most messy way possible. Windows 10 again follow that path.

    Ha ha you should use it before you call it crap, you don't have to use those icons (but you really should) and it does let you browse the start menu folders like windows 7 does (but better cause you can jump letters + other stuff). Fun fact the start menu is actually resizable can even have the start menu full screen if you like which i do <3.

    EDIT: Also it's worth noting that any picture you've seen of the start menu thats not less than a month or a few weeks old is obselete. The one you linked is probably a year old.


    I've been using the preview for a month and i'm happy with it being a windows 8 lover, i simply don't use the windows 7 related stuff much really as I was happy with 8, and was worried 10 would ruin that. But all it did for the most part was make the startscreen tiles vertical scrolling. And give some more options that i had to play with before i as comfortable.

    The only thing i miss is Pinning, dividing apps is better cause you don't just have halves but quadrants (drag the window to the corner) but nothing is like pinning. You can still make apps like netflix and such fullscreen by clicking a new button next to the regular close and minimize buttons. But no pinning.


    And in response to what other people have said.
    • Yes you can hide or make that search bar (aka cortana) just an icon, I use it a bit but I wonder how often other people will use it...fun fact, you can get rid of it, and still use voice activations :D
    • The only issue i've encountered with wacom drivers is with photoshop and it was the same issue other people have always had for various reasons. I fixed it by disabling the need for wintab (edit: actually i think i mean windows ink) like they did.
    • I agree with anyone suggesting formatting, I decided to upgrade and i have a few odd bugs but that could be technical preview stuff.
    • No issues with game performance so far although it took nvidia forever to make drivers for the 5 series and lower >_>
    • I also would simply wait until Microsoft gives you the update if you're concerned about compatibility. Apparently they're using the preview users as benchmarks for compatibility and releasing based on that.
    • Also there's a notification center, I love this cause it replaces taskbar notifications with something thats easily dismissable and easy to find again.

    As for things i've had issues with, photoshop has had some performance issues lately and i'm not sure if it's my ram cards going bad or what but once i reach a certain number of active layers (And i definitely mean a lot of layers, like 20-30) all hell breaks loose. I didn't have this at first but got it later on and photoshop is the only program that does this. Before then it's perfect, maybe even faster than 8.

    Chrome can't figure out the taskbar when pinning apps, maybes it's aklways been like that but i started doing it recently and it hated me for it. It's also been a lot slower than edge lately which is making me considering switching (but not any time soon cause no plugins and ads) but I should just reinstall it.

    at this current point in time and the build i am on automatic colorschemes by slider show does not work per image just on the first image. This bugs the hell out of me cause i like my desktop changing colors.

    Also there's two control panels, 90% of the important stuff is in a new one, while the other one keeps all the legacy stuff which is that other 10%. Not a big deal but confusing at first.
  • RobeOmega
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    iadagraca wrote: »
    Ha ha you should use it before you call it crap, you don't have to use those icons (but you really should) and it does let you browse the start menu folders like windows 7 does (but better cause you can jump letters + other stuff). Fun fact the start menu is actually resizable can even have the start menu full screen if you like which i do <3.


    I've been using the preview for a month and i'm happy with it being a windows 8 lover, i simply don't use the windows 7 related stuff much really as I was happy with 8, and was worried 10 would ruin that. But all it did for the most part was make the startscreen tiles vertical scrolling. And give some more options that i had to play with before i as comfortable.

    The only thing i miss is Pinning, dividing apps is better cause you don't just have halves but quadrants (drag the window to the corner) but nothing is like pinning. You can still make apps like netflix and such fullscreen by clicking a new button next to the regular close and minimize buttons. But no pinning.


    And in response to what other people have said.
    • Yes you can hide or make that search bar (aka cortana) just an icon, I use it a bit but I wonder how often other people will use it...fun fact, you can get rid of it, and still use voice activations :D
    • The only issue i've encountered with wacom drivers is with photoshop and it was the same issue other people have always had for various reasons. I fixed it by disabling the need for wintab like they did.
    • I agree with anyone suggesting formatting, I decided to upgrade and i have a few odd bugs but that could be technical preview stuff.
    • No issues with game performance so far although it took nvidia forever to make drivers for the 5 series and lower >_>
    • I also would simply wait until Microsoft gives you the update if you're concerned about compatibility. Apparently they're using the preview users as benchmarks for compatibility and releasing based on that.
    • Also there's a notification center, I love this cause it replaces taskbar notifications with something thats easily dismissable and easy to find again.

    As for things i've had issues with, photoshop has had some performance issues lately and i'm not sure if it's my ram cards going bad or what but once i reach a certain number of active layers (And i definitely mean a lot of layers, like 20-30) all hell breaks loose. I didn't have this at first but got it later on and photoshop is the only program that does this. Before then it's perfect, maybe even faster than 8.

    Chrome can't figure out the taskbar when pinning apps, maybes it's aklways been like that but i started doing it recently and it hated me for it. It's also been a lot slower than edge lately which is making me considering switching (but not any time soon cause no plugins and ads) but I should just reinstall it.

    at this current point in time and the build i am on automatic colorschemes by slider show does not work per image just on the first image. This bugs the hell out of me cause i like my desktop changing colors.

    Also there's two control panels, 90% of the important stuff is in a new one, while the other one keeps all the legacy stuff which is that other 10%. Not a big deal but confusing at first.

    Have you encountered any software that a 3D artist uses that is currently incompatible with Windows 10? (Aside from Photoshop)
  • iadagraca
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    Robeomega wrote: »
    Have you encountered any software that a 3D artist uses that is currently incompatible with Windows 10? (Aside from Photoshop)

    I've been using blender and mudbox extensively with no issues (maya a little), Photoshop (which could be hardware) and chrome are the only non native programs that I've had issues with.

    I say Photoshop could be hardware cause I work in HUGE documents for paintings, my last one was a gig in file size. Maybe I'm just using more than I used to or my ram or graphics card is dying. (EDIT: also worth noting disabling wintab (or was it windows ink?) in photoshop greatly reduced this issue earlier so it could be related to that?)

    I haven't read anywhere about other people with similar issues so it could just be me.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Just got marked as "This PC is compatible" :)

    But I'm not updating. I will wait till last day of 1 year in which I have to use this update, to be sure that they squash every bug that may get on my nerves. Just like with Windows 8, which was unusable when it came out, but after two mayor updates it became best OS ever for me.

    One thing I don't like (and I'm one of those guys that love Windows 8 start screen) is that in Windows 10 scrolling is top-down not left-right. Anyone knows can this be altered?

    BTW.
    Kinda scary that they checked that all my apps are compatible. I wonder did they checked my private porn tape too ;)
  • iadagraca
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    mantragora wrote: »
    One thing I don't like (and I'm one of those guys that love Windows 8 start screen) is that in Windows 10 scrolling is top-down not left-right. Anyone knows can this be altered?

    Nope, I mentioned this above, it was the first thing I noticed and it bugged me for a whole week before I got accustomed to it. The tiles sizes are also slightly smaller too which also annoyed me cause i had apps to make images out of tiles.

    The other thing that bugged me was each column is only 3 square tiles in width but infinite in height. I at least hope the compromise with more tiles sizes or something.

    I get why they did it, and it's because the start menu is re sizable and columns determine the width while the height is infinite. And i'm used to it now but i deffinitely don't prefer it yet. I do feel like I can see more at once on the start screen in some ways. And if anything you won't get "shifting" issues when going to different screen sizes if you have things organized a certain way.

    I'm also as a fellow start screen lover I'm sure you're wondering how this all looks full screen and customized so here you go. I haven't bothered to use oblytile yet cause I'm expecting the update to the release version to screw up my tiles again XD.

    the icons on the left hide the old startmenu stuff which to me is nice cause before it felt cramped.

    48ehjPu.png
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    So are peoples drivers working well, I got a intuos 5, and it pretty much use it instead of a mouse. I want to move to 10 since my 7 install is getting pretty old and should be wiped out soon. But i need to know if my intuos, photoshop cs6 and maya 2015 will run fine on it.
  • loggie24
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    Since it's faster, more stable and has new features that will soon be relevant i see no reason not to upgrade. Granted, i have been on the insider previews since they started :)
  • DireWolf
    @iadragaca Could you guide me how I can make the Win 10's start menu looks just like Win 7, please? My studio is using Windows 8 now and I really can't stand it's full screen start menu.

    I usually launch my application by pressing win key and type the first few letters. While this works in Win 8, sometimes Win 8 just won't put what I type into its search box for no apparent reason (2/3 of the time it works, 1/3 it just does nothing and I have to move my mouse and click on the magnifier icon...) And when I make a typo and press enter out of habit it just launch this full screen search thing I always have to Alt+F4 out of it.

    It's just lighting fast in Win 7 and really this is all I need from the start menu.
    http://i.imgur.com/JrZsS5g.png
  • Lt_Commander
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    I've been testing 10 at work so I've been fiddling with the preview since they announced, I've gotten used to the UI since it's a lot closer to 7 and I've found general stability to be on par with 8 in the last couple of months of builds, so I'm ready for a transition.

    I did an in-place upgrade of my SP1 a few weeks ago - everything transferred from 8.1 seamlessly except my antivirus (this includes photoshop, quixel, unity, blender, zbrush, steam + a few games). I got some idle CPU usage issues that causes the fan to spin so I'll probably do a clean install once 10 goes public, but overall, I was impressed with compatibility.

    On my home desktop, my latest build of Windows 7 is really unstable for some reason, so I'm taking this as an excuse to do a much needed refresh. I'm ready to start from scratch since my current image is only a few months old anyway.
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    does anyone know if office 2003 still works on win10?


    maybe its best to wait a couple months on how it turns out, if its unexpectedly another Vista /8.0 fiasco, I will for sure stick to Win7.

    win7s Extended Support end date is the 1/14/2020.
    plenty of time for yet another windows release till then...
  • Tekoppar
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    DX12 is the only thing that I want from Windows 10 and that's only for UE4, and I don't need it directly anyway. Think I'm just gonna install Windows 10 on VM, that way I can upgrade whenever I want instead of having a 1 year time limit and I get to try it out too.
  • mats effect
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    Still love 7 but I guess I will once I know there are no issues with all the software I need.
  • weee
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    its free and better why not?
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    If you are on the fence, at least go through the hoops to get the license before time expires.
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    weee wrote: »
    its free and better why not?

    Well I mean you read articles like this, and the comments, and it makes you wonder just how rushed this thing is.
  • iadagraca
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    DireWolf wrote: »
    @iadragaca Could you guide me how I can make the Win 10's start menu looks just like Win 7, please? My studio is using Windows 8 now and I really can't stand it's full screen start menu.

    I usually launch my application by pressing win key and type the first few letters. While this works in Win 8, sometimes Win 8 just won't put what I type into its search box for no apparent reason (2/3 of the time it works, 1/3 it just does nothing and I have to move my mouse and click on the magnifier icon...) And when I make a typo and press enter out of habit it just launch this full screen search thing I always have to Alt+F4 out of it.

    It's just lighting fast in Win 7 and really this is all I need from the start menu.
    http://i.imgur.com/JrZsS5g.png

    Hm, I'm not sure why you're having that problem in 8 (you mean 8.1 right?), as for the full screen search thing i think you can disable that or at least the web search function of it. There's a "search" settings thing there.

    As for 10 it works very differently, you can still hit the windows key and type, but it's handled by Cortana now. Which is that search bar you see in windows 10 screens. This itself is a thin and tall box that comes up on the left. works the same otherwise.

    If you're worried about the web search thing this time instead of bringing up an app, it simply searches in whatever your default browser is and default search engine.

    Also here's the start menu in it's current state which is the non fullscreen option. Also note that it's re-sizable, height is whatever you like, width is determined by columns of apps.

    6Jv38kF.png

    and here's how it looks when you select "all apps", fun fact is you can click the letters and jump between them.

    Wnb0iYb.png

    And here's how the search thing looks now. You can acess this both by hitting the win key or just clicking the searchbar or it's icon. Also lets you use voice commands but i'm not sure if that works for opening apps.

    ACk01dO.png
    Fuiosg wrote: »
    Well I mean you read articles like this, and the comments, and it makes you wonder just how rushed this thing is.

    [EDIT]I don't know what the deal is with those comments, the only issue I've had with updating anything was not having enough space on my 64gb SSD (because the previous update left a lot of recovery data i don't need). EDIT2: actually i do know someone that said one update disabled their nvidia driver.

    I have had explorer crash on me a few times but that was only after maxing out my ram usage or getting close to it. Any other time was when and app crashed or something and it also crashed explorer which is something that happened in 8 too.

    For me windows 10 has been as stable as 8 OS wise meaning i haven't had any major crashes or OS problems but there's just several little things they have disabled (installing app store apps to a different drive) or just don't work. For example the "People" app has never opened for me not once since since I first upgraded. Other issues occurred after upgrading builds where certain app store apps wouldn't work any more.
  • DireWolf
    Thanks. Search result on the left, that's gonna feel a lot more familiar to Win 7 users for sure.
  • GrevSev
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    I will eventually

    W10 seems to love my laptop. Everything loads faster and Its not getting as hot On the other hand Ive had a lot of performance issues playing with it on the desktop.

    I want to upgrade just for the bettwe window snapping but that can wait.
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  • DireWolf
    1 more thing. Is there a way to make the task bar at the bottom completely opaque?
  • iadagraca
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    Yeah you can, you can choose the color too.
  • throttlekitty
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    Hay i gots a dum question. I used win8 briefly on a job last year; chrome did this neat(?) thing where it was its own desktop when you launched it. Is that something that 10 will keep? I know you can set up desktops like you can in Linux, it was just strange to me that it was just for Chrome, I'm not certain what all you could do with it in that case.
  • Dataday
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    DireWolf wrote: »
    @iadragaca Could you guide me how I can make the Win 10's start menu looks just like Win 7, please? My studio is using Windows 8 now and I really can't stand it's full screen start menu.

    If your studio doesnt upgrade, or you want to stick on 8 for whatever reason... many windows 8 users have just installed a normal windows 7ish start menu.

    See:
    http://www.classicshell.net/
    http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
    http://www.iobit.com/en/iobitstartmenu8.php

    There are a ton of places to get near exact replicas of the win 7 start menu system for win 8.

    Additionally I believe Stardock already has one lined up for Windows 10 if you want the original style start menu.
  • iadagraca
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    Hay i gots a dum question. I used win8 briefly on a job last year; chrome did this neat(?) thing where it was its own desktop when you launched it. Is that something that 10 will keep? I know you can set up desktops like you can in Linux, it was just strange to me that it was just for Chrome, I'm not certain what all you could do with it in that case.

    Oh yeah, I don't have access to it on my desktop I think because my resolution is too high? I don't have that button at the moment, I've only seen it on the tablet I had.

    I don't see why it wouldn't work but i have no idea if it does. Unless i can find a way to force enable it i can't test it.

    That was a chrome specific feature that they did to kinda put chrome OS inside of windows.
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    Currently using Windows 8.1 so upgrading to windows 10 is free :). Will upgrade after gathering all the Windows 10 drivers.
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