Anyone upgrading to Windows 10?
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Just curious, it comes out Wednesday. I might wait awhile and see what the word of mouth is, but being on 8.1 I'm curious to get some of those windows 7 features/workflow back.
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I think they're just trying to shoehorn it into back to school sales, drum up interest since new laptops are coming out around this time, also the surface pro 4 supposedly coming out in October.
I'm pretty interested in checking it out; I'm not a huge fan of Windows 8.1's separation between desktop and fullscreen applications and I want something more flexible.
http://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/msw-win10-hero-slider-familiar.png?version=5c6de01f-e719-e050-e3b2-827555f16a64
Seriously. Windows 7 was the only one that put things into FOLDERS when you go into start menu. Windows 8 no longer do that. All items got laid out in front of you in the most messy way possible. Windows 10 again follow that path.
This is shit beyond shit.
That would be awesome to play with!
Honestly I may just cancel my Reservation for Windows 10 as I am still on Photoshop CS5.
As far as I remember, you can remove all that crap on the right of the start menu.
I hope that the HUGE search bar is removable.
Ha ha you should use it before you call it crap, you don't have to use those icons (but you really should) and it does let you browse the start menu folders like windows 7 does (but better cause you can jump letters + other stuff). Fun fact the start menu is actually resizable can even have the start menu full screen if you like which i do
EDIT: Also it's worth noting that any picture you've seen of the start menu thats not less than a month or a few weeks old is obselete. The one you linked is probably a year old.
I've been using the preview for a month and i'm happy with it being a windows 8 lover, i simply don't use the windows 7 related stuff much really as I was happy with 8, and was worried 10 would ruin that. But all it did for the most part was make the startscreen tiles vertical scrolling. And give some more options that i had to play with before i as comfortable.
The only thing i miss is Pinning, dividing apps is better cause you don't just have halves but quadrants (drag the window to the corner) but nothing is like pinning. You can still make apps like netflix and such fullscreen by clicking a new button next to the regular close and minimize buttons. But no pinning.
And in response to what other people have said.
As for things i've had issues with, photoshop has had some performance issues lately and i'm not sure if it's my ram cards going bad or what but once i reach a certain number of active layers (And i definitely mean a lot of layers, like 20-30) all hell breaks loose. I didn't have this at first but got it later on and photoshop is the only program that does this. Before then it's perfect, maybe even faster than 8.
Chrome can't figure out the taskbar when pinning apps, maybes it's aklways been like that but i started doing it recently and it hated me for it. It's also been a lot slower than edge lately which is making me considering switching (but not any time soon cause no plugins and ads) but I should just reinstall it.
at this current point in time and the build i am on automatic colorschemes by slider show does not work per image just on the first image. This bugs the hell out of me cause i like my desktop changing colors.
Also there's two control panels, 90% of the important stuff is in a new one, while the other one keeps all the legacy stuff which is that other 10%. Not a big deal but confusing at first.
Have you encountered any software that a 3D artist uses that is currently incompatible with Windows 10? (Aside from Photoshop)
I've been using blender and mudbox extensively with no issues (maya a little), Photoshop (which could be hardware) and chrome are the only non native programs that I've had issues with.
I say Photoshop could be hardware cause I work in HUGE documents for paintings, my last one was a gig in file size. Maybe I'm just using more than I used to or my ram or graphics card is dying. (EDIT: also worth noting disabling wintab (or was it windows ink?) in photoshop greatly reduced this issue earlier so it could be related to that?)
I haven't read anywhere about other people with similar issues so it could just be me.
But I'm not updating. I will wait till last day of 1 year in which I have to use this update, to be sure that they squash every bug that may get on my nerves. Just like with Windows 8, which was unusable when it came out, but after two mayor updates it became best OS ever for me.
One thing I don't like (and I'm one of those guys that love Windows 8 start screen) is that in Windows 10 scrolling is top-down not left-right. Anyone knows can this be altered?
BTW.
Kinda scary that they checked that all my apps are compatible. I wonder did they checked my private porn tape too
Nope, I mentioned this above, it was the first thing I noticed and it bugged me for a whole week before I got accustomed to it. The tiles sizes are also slightly smaller too which also annoyed me cause i had apps to make images out of tiles.
The other thing that bugged me was each column is only 3 square tiles in width but infinite in height. I at least hope the compromise with more tiles sizes or something.
I get why they did it, and it's because the start menu is re sizable and columns determine the width while the height is infinite. And i'm used to it now but i deffinitely don't prefer it yet. I do feel like I can see more at once on the start screen in some ways. And if anything you won't get "shifting" issues when going to different screen sizes if you have things organized a certain way.
I'm also as a fellow start screen lover I'm sure you're wondering how this all looks full screen and customized so here you go. I haven't bothered to use oblytile yet cause I'm expecting the update to the release version to screw up my tiles again XD.
the icons on the left hide the old startmenu stuff which to me is nice cause before it felt cramped.
I usually launch my application by pressing win key and type the first few letters. While this works in Win 8, sometimes Win 8 just won't put what I type into its search box for no apparent reason (2/3 of the time it works, 1/3 it just does nothing and I have to move my mouse and click on the magnifier icon...) And when I make a typo and press enter out of habit it just launch this full screen search thing I always have to Alt+F4 out of it.
It's just lighting fast in Win 7 and really this is all I need from the start menu.
http://i.imgur.com/JrZsS5g.png
I did an in-place upgrade of my SP1 a few weeks ago - everything transferred from 8.1 seamlessly except my antivirus (this includes photoshop, quixel, unity, blender, zbrush, steam + a few games). I got some idle CPU usage issues that causes the fan to spin so I'll probably do a clean install once 10 goes public, but overall, I was impressed with compatibility.
On my home desktop, my latest build of Windows 7 is really unstable for some reason, so I'm taking this as an excuse to do a much needed refresh. I'm ready to start from scratch since my current image is only a few months old anyway.
maybe its best to wait a couple months on how it turns out, if its unexpectedly another Vista /8.0 fiasco, I will for sure stick to Win7.
win7s Extended Support end date is the 1/14/2020.
plenty of time for yet another windows release till then...
Well I mean you read articles like this, and the comments, and it makes you wonder just how rushed this thing is.
Hm, I'm not sure why you're having that problem in 8 (you mean 8.1 right?), as for the full screen search thing i think you can disable that or at least the web search function of it. There's a "search" settings thing there.
As for 10 it works very differently, you can still hit the windows key and type, but it's handled by Cortana now. Which is that search bar you see in windows 10 screens. This itself is a thin and tall box that comes up on the left. works the same otherwise.
If you're worried about the web search thing this time instead of bringing up an app, it simply searches in whatever your default browser is and default search engine.
Also here's the start menu in it's current state which is the non fullscreen option. Also note that it's re-sizable, height is whatever you like, width is determined by columns of apps.
and here's how it looks when you select "all apps", fun fact is you can click the letters and jump between them.
And here's how the search thing looks now. You can acess this both by hitting the win key or just clicking the searchbar or it's icon. Also lets you use voice commands but i'm not sure if that works for opening apps.
[EDIT]I don't know what the deal is with those comments, the only issue I've had with updating anything was not having enough space on my 64gb SSD (because the previous update left a lot of recovery data i don't need). EDIT2: actually i do know someone that said one update disabled their nvidia driver.
I have had explorer crash on me a few times but that was only after maxing out my ram usage or getting close to it. Any other time was when and app crashed or something and it also crashed explorer which is something that happened in 8 too.
For me windows 10 has been as stable as 8 OS wise meaning i haven't had any major crashes or OS problems but there's just several little things they have disabled (installing app store apps to a different drive) or just don't work. For example the "People" app has never opened for me not once since since I first upgraded. Other issues occurred after upgrading builds where certain app store apps wouldn't work any more.
W10 seems to love my laptop. Everything loads faster and Its not getting as hot On the other hand Ive had a lot of performance issues playing with it on the desktop.
I want to upgrade just for the bettwe window snapping but that can wait.
If your studio doesnt upgrade, or you want to stick on 8 for whatever reason... many windows 8 users have just installed a normal windows 7ish start menu.
See:
http://www.classicshell.net/
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
http://www.iobit.com/en/iobitstartmenu8.php
There are a ton of places to get near exact replicas of the win 7 start menu system for win 8.
Additionally I believe Stardock already has one lined up for Windows 10 if you want the original style start menu.
Oh yeah, I don't have access to it on my desktop I think because my resolution is too high? I don't have that button at the moment, I've only seen it on the tablet I had.
I don't see why it wouldn't work but i have no idea if it does. Unless i can find a way to force enable it i can't test it.
That was a chrome specific feature that they did to kinda put chrome OS inside of windows.