Need help please

Kazuya · Aug 2014

Hello guys, i'm new on Dota 2 workshop, yesterday i starts modeling a weapon model for Axe, i was following everything they said in the workshop hero requirements.. what's the problem ?

Problems:

1- i exceed on the number of tris and i didnt even finish my modeling
2- i'm useing 3Ds Max 2014, do i need Max 2012 to import the model with SMD or WallWarm!!
3- i used CGFscape to get Axe folder, then i used studio decompiler and i followed every instructions, it crach everytime when i try it..

i'm kind scared when i'm working cause i can't stop looking to the tris counter and thinking what to do next and how to solve the other problems.. :poly122:

please any help with the pipeline, or any link for beginners

Thank you again everyone

Kip McSkipster · Aug 2014

Hi Kazuya,

Regarding tri count, it would probably be easiest if you post an image or two so people can get an idea of where/how you might be able to edit to reduce.

I can't speak to Max, but I find it very easy to import smds into Blender using Valve's Blender Source Tools. From there you could export to obj/fbx for Max.

Kazuya · Aug 2014

Here is the model and 2 screenshots

i'm going to follow everything you say, step by step for the importe export, i'm not gonna think about that for the moment.

PS: The modele i used it's an Axe from WoW, and it's just an exercice to understand how it works

bewsii · Aug 2014

Ditch the extra edge loops around the purple object, you can fake that hard edge with smoothing groups. Keep in mind that every quad is 2 tri's, so having tons of quads will run up your budget very fast. Split them down to tri's whenever possible. Also your handle (the green object) doesn't need to be more than 5 sided for a clean circular shape with smoothing groups and a normal map.

So get rid of all the edge loops you added to make hard edges, and lower the sides to 5 on the handle and see what your Tri count is after that. If you still need help, post a new screenshot afterwards and we'll go from there.

Kip McSkipster · Aug 2014

Good suggestions from bewsii. Looks like the bulk of your extra tris are in the purple part, I would venture a guess that that piece would/should be around 100 tris or less.

Here are my steps for smd to Blender:

Download and install Blender http://www.blender.org/download/

Download Valve's free Blender Source Tools https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools
[do not unzip this]

Open Blender

File-User Preferences-Addons Tab

Click on button at bottom of dialog box “Install from File...” and choose your blender_source_tools zip file

Now you should be able to go to File-Import and see in your list Source Engine (.smd, etc), choose that

Navigate to an smd folder, for example: models\heroes\pugna\smd and select one of the smds (be sure to choose Y for the Up Axis in the left panel settings under “Import SMD...”) (this assumes you've downloaded and unzipped one of these: http://www.dota2.com/workshop/requirements )

If you want to export go to File-Export and choose a format that works for you

Hope that helps.

heboltz3 · Aug 2014

That axe looks an awful lot like a Warcraft weapon.. where'd you get the concept, or is the piece just for practice?

Kazuya · Aug 2014

Thank you guys, ill do my best and keep you posted

@Kip McSkipster, thanks for the link but the link to Valve's free Blender Source Tools isn't working

t1mu · Aug 2014

Kazuya · Aug 2014

heboltz3 wrote: »

That axe looks an awful lot like a Warcraft weapon.. where'd you get the concept, or is the piece just for practice?

just pratice to understand the workflow

Kazuya · Aug 2014

t1mu wrote: »

that's it :poly121:

Kip McSkipster · Aug 2014

Try this link for source tools: http://steamreview.org/BlenderSourceTools/

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