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Skull
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I will be ZBrush-ing this skull I made from scratch some years ago, what's your opinion?
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Go Z?
Looks to me like the eye sockets are a bit big, and the cheek bones are kind of tiny.
The point where the jaw hinges is normally a bit of a ball joint and the main part of the skull has some indication of a receiver socket. If you removed the jaw you would know where about it connected, not so on your model. If you're going to model little pits then this level of detail should be preserved also.
Some good front and lateral skull ref:
http://www.anatomyatlases.org/atlasofanatomy/plate01/index.shtml
(The quicktimeVR option allows you to zoom on a high res scan)
I'm horrible with remembering anatomy so I always try to have tons of reference printed out and on my 2nd monitor of what I'm currently modeling. You should also try and find some orthos that you could throw into zbrush and just kinda trace model over. Right now the skull looks a bit deformed
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4971/skulledit.jpg
I don't know what you are using in the way of reference but this one is pretty good.
http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/Human_skull
And then when you take screencaps of the 3/4 view do you have perspective mode turned on? If not try pressing P and see if it look better or worse. Keep up the good work man.
How can I delete some loops and weld some verts without loosing my UVs? I want to keep my PolyPainting.
Also, LOL @ r_fletch_r's comment! hahaha
or you delete them and bake the polypaint from one skull to the other after the new one has been UVed properly.
@ SouthpawSid & divi: Thanks! That was exactly what I was looking for.
@ wake: Thanks for the link. You can see I've used a lot of references suggested posts ago, here's the sculpting so far in ortho views and from perspective:
Honestly about proportions, as much references as I find, as much as I realise that every skull is unique. But also, for this skull, I want the overall proportions not too off.
this definitely improved from the earlier versions, I would only suggest looking at the overall roundness of the skull (someone already mentioned) cuz it maybe too rounded. Also looking at it from the front view the jaw appears narrow. also from the side view it looks a bit squished.
overall, man, great progress keep going.
The jaw looks too thin. It looks like it used to be alright, but recently it's gotten thinner, too thin in my opinion.
Not that it's not theoretically very possible for someone to have a jaw that thin, we come in all shapes and sizes.
But if you're going for standard "accuracy", you should probably widen up his jawbones.
Little paintover/liquify (that unintentionally squished a couple front teeth, ignore that.):
Eventually I used Blender to fix those edges...
Regardless, I think your bone texture is too uniform. Also, it seems too dirty. Almost as if it was covered with a sticky residue and dropped in some mud. Bones aren't sticky, and the skin rotting away isn't sticky either. Skin dries up.
Notice how the teeth have the same bone texture as everything else. Look at yourself in the mirror and check your teeth. They aren't bone. They are nice and smooth and ivory-ish.
Same thing should apply to your model.
It may just be me, but it looks like you used Crazybump's occlusion texture and slapped it on. This is a good method only if used wisely. You should get more detail out of that occlusion bake. Right now it just makes everything look blurry as if you are using a 512 texture or something. The details should be crisp since you are using a 2048, on a symmetried model.
You're on the right track though! Keep it up! I would suggest trying to get it to look right in max with Xoliul's shader before getting it setup in unreal. Will save you some time and it's easier to flip maps and such.
I think your low poly could do with a bit more geometry aswell, the top of the head especially.
First off, I want the channels in the right way. So, here's a comparision in their current state, inverting green (iG) or red (iR) or both (iGR):
Who's the win then?
So, do I have to invert any channel? which one?
Hope it helps this way.
Make a few cuts in the skull (side of the upper teeth, under the cheekbone), relax the uv-shell and see what that gives you. The goal is to get close to the cartoon representation of a skull than the circular shape you have right now.
Then put the front of the lower jaw underneath that in the uv-space, unmirrored, and scale down the back of the lower jaw (won't see it often, if ever). You can keep that mirrored to save space as well.
Then, fit the rest (teeth, eyesockets...) into the remaining space.