Well apparently there's something in the water in the U.S. cause if this thing passes not only will people in the states be screwed, it will affect everyone else too.
Hopefully everyone will think it's stupid and and invte U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman politely to "go fuck himself".
I fail to see how this is going to protect or affect people in anyway...
Except for some Korean gang sending a serious virus to US internet.
Here is a practical use case:
Shut down your internet for a week and you will see no difference except you will be diverted towards either outer sports, inner board games, inner sports and books.
Listening to Lieberman go on and on with his rampant technophobia I sometimes wonder if Al Gore/Lieberman would have totally screwed us, just differently than Bush.
I have a feeling he'd clamp down on information and privacy just as much as Bush.
If net neutrality is struck down (crossing my fingers for no) then it is very likely that a partially parallel architecture will begin to appear, making this law somewhat impotent.
They say its for terrorist attacks, but im sure its for this whole fight against the media Obama has been having because people are speaking out against him. He knows they're right and cant handle it.
If net neutrality is struck down (crossing my fingers for no) then it is very likely that a partially parallel architecture will begin to appear, making this law somewhat impotent.
It shall be called the Extranet, it shall be run on Linux servers, it's native language shall be pirate, and it shall be AWESOME.
Looks like you have a habit of pressing the top forum link to go to general discussion. :P I keep on doing the same.
This is a pretty retarded proposal, surely when shit hits the fan the last thing you WANT to happen is loss of communication between people. Also GJ spending taxpayer dollars setting up a National Center of Cyber-security because that's totally what people need now.
They say its for terrorist attacks, but im sure its for this whole fight against the media Obama has been having because people are speaking out against him. He knows they're right and cant handle it.
poppycock. The government fighting net neutrality has been an issue since the inception of the internet. The kill switch idea isn't new either.
shutting down the internet would do more harm than good. How much of America's economy is through the internet? "Shutting it down" for hours, let alone, days would surely have significant results for e-commerce.
But than again, thats a lot of control, some body might want that sort of power. "
"I'm bored, lets plan a false T-attack, shutdown the internet, and see what kind of turmoil we can send our country into!"
.. anyway, dumb idea. It'll likely/hopefully not go anywhere.
Oh shit! The cyber-government is trying to cyber-shutdown my cyber-net! I shall cyber-type my cyber-text on this cyber-forum like a true cyber-warrior to cyber-voice my cyber-opposition!
Oh shit! The cyber-government is trying to cyber-shutdown my cyber-net! I shall cyber-type my cyber-text on this cyber-forum like a true cyber-warrior to cyber-voice my cyber-opposition!
I sometimes wonder if Al Gore/Lieberman would have totally screwed us, just differently than Bush.
Is there any doubt? Not in my mind. Lieberman is a menace, and has been since the 90's when he tried to wrangle government control of the videogames industry.
Gore? Remember the PMRC and those wonderful parental advisory stickers?
These two are as solid anti freedom as they come.
And to the international polycounters: yeah, the internet might still be free abroad, but if this passes, the US Gov will have the ability to shut down Americans' access completely, for any reason they deem "an emergency." Is there a threat requiring such action? Only if you consider your administration's freefalling approval ratings an emergency and want to control all information being disseminated.
this pigs want to control everything and everyone.. that's all about power to control and monitor things.. If they feel insecure they should educate yourself to understand risk and handle it properly not to make indirect damage(it can be taken as a electronic attack!!) to rest of world community..
off means you will have china in ammerica in notime.
btw: DOS = denial of service -> common cracker practice for which they are going to jail. So man who will do this off should be treated same way I think
I agree with Ferg on this one. It seems like the previous generation doesn't like the idea of being smothered gently with a pillow.
They're all bent about taxes and government involvement in their lives but they're a few years too late with the righteous indignation.
The best way to keep your taxes low is to not start two prolonged wars or agree to one sided trade practices that benefit the few while hurting the many.
The best way to keep your personal freedom is to never give it up, even if someone offers a deal you can't refuse like for safety and security that never really materializes.
Lol I find it quite amusing, "oh shit we're being attacked, lets get rid of the thing we're most reliant on!"
Not even, it's basically "Oh shit we're being attacked! Lets turn off some useless shit that doesn't matter because milnet already got the shit bombed outta it by hackers 4 seconds after war was declared!".
This is either a stupid technophobe's attempt at relevance, or preparatory legislation for shutting down information flow to citizens when it becomes inconvenient. Considering the Iran election, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was taking notes.
They'd be overrun by a horde of angry video game nerds who can't connect to their wow server or access steam or drm-ed games no more. Me included. They shall be strangled to death by usb cables, beaten with keyboards and have their eyes poked out by W-LAN sticks. Raaawwwr!
... And even if the rage still wouldn't be enough to get people to rebel it's still an awesome scene to image.
Also, still giggling about the "cyber-warrior" term xD
They'd be overrun by a horde of angry video game nerds who can't connect to their wow server or access steam or drm-ed games no more. Me included. They shall be strangled to death by usb cables, beaten with keyboards and have their eyes poked out by W-LAN sticks. Raaawwwr!
... And even if the rage still wouldn't be enough to get people to rebel it's still an awesome scene to image.
Also, still giggling about the "cyber-warrior" term xD
holly american shitted foreword of war disaster.. they are unable t tell us truth about rooswelt, area 51, atomic bomb preparation, tesla, and enstein.. are you ready for Truth? they are just shitheads full of "great possibilities to start a war" ANYWHERE, they act like all the world belong to them..
I have solution: Just move them to Mercury and wait for 176 Earth days.. to be sure :DD
I thought, maybe, after a sensible president was elected, I could no longer feel utterly ashamed amongst the international community for being an American... but I think it's only gotten worse.
You guys should see what's going on in Australia at the moment. It's getting North Korea style over here:
- Talk of monitoring every users private e-mails and every browsed site for a record of 10 years.
-Secret blacklisted sites (besides the obvious nasty sites, what else will they censor).
I might sound paranoid but it's pretty obvious every government in every country will want to end up regulating the net. It's no secret all this stuff was going to happen.
I don't see any legitimate use for thrusting a country back to the dark ages by crippling the only medium that's shown itself to be reliable in a crisis (ever tried to call someone during a natural disaster?).
Ofcourse, his reasoning behind it (he's worried about banks and government being hacked and wants to shut off THE INTERNET rather than those system's connection to the internet?) is idiotic.
What I couldn't gather from the article: how influential is this guy, and how likely is it for this bill to gain any traction?
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sometimes I wonder if those people have some real problems to solve, or are they just that paranoid?
Except for some Korean gang sending a serious virus to US internet.
Here is a practical use case:
Shut down your internet for a week and you will see no difference except you will be diverted towards either outer sports, inner board games, inner sports and books.
I have a feeling he'd clamp down on information and privacy just as much as Bush.
Don't they realize that the internet is beyond american control at this point?
Cyber 9/11.. hahaha XD
This is a pretty retarded proposal, surely when shit hits the fan the last thing you WANT to happen is loss of communication between people. Also GJ spending taxpayer dollars setting up a National Center of Cyber-security because that's totally what people need now.
poppycock. The government fighting net neutrality has been an issue since the inception of the internet. The kill switch idea isn't new either.
shutting down the internet would do more harm than good. How much of America's economy is through the internet? "Shutting it down" for hours, let alone, days would surely have significant results for e-commerce.
But than again, thats a lot of control, some body might want that sort of power. "
"I'm bored, lets plan a false T-attack, shutdown the internet, and see what kind of turmoil we can send our country into!"
.. anyway, dumb idea. It'll likely/hopefully not go anywhere.
Your point is?
Is there any doubt? Not in my mind. Lieberman is a menace, and has been since the 90's when he tried to wrangle government control of the videogames industry.
Gore? Remember the PMRC and those wonderful parental advisory stickers?
These two are as solid anti freedom as they come.
And to the international polycounters: yeah, the internet might still be free abroad, but if this passes, the US Gov will have the ability to shut down Americans' access completely, for any reason they deem "an emergency." Is there a threat requiring such action? Only if you consider your administration's freefalling approval ratings an emergency and want to control all information being disseminated.
IS THAT NA EMERGENCI
and good god I hope they fail.
off means you will have china in ammerica in notime.
btw: DOS = denial of service -> common cracker practice for which they are going to jail. So man who will do this off should be treated same way I think
peace
They're all bent about taxes and government involvement in their lives but they're a few years too late with the righteous indignation.
The best way to keep your taxes low is to not start two prolonged wars or agree to one sided trade practices that benefit the few while hurting the many.
The best way to keep your personal freedom is to never give it up, even if someone offers a deal you can't refuse like for safety and security that never really materializes.
Looking at the internet in its state now .... this shouldve been turned off a long time ago! Its hell!
Not even, it's basically "Oh shit we're being attacked! Lets turn off some useless shit that doesn't matter because milnet already got the shit bombed outta it by hackers 4 seconds after war was declared!".
This is either a stupid technophobe's attempt at relevance, or preparatory legislation for shutting down information flow to citizens when it becomes inconvenient. Considering the Iran election, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was taking notes.
Sumbuddy shut off internetz before hakcerz blow us 2 smitherreeensz!
Take cover as your deadly home pc spits spinning CD's of DOOOOOMMMMM
... And even if the rage still wouldn't be enough to get people to rebel it's still an awesome scene to image.
Also, still giggling about the "cyber-warrior" term xD
holly american shitted foreword of war disaster.. they are unable t tell us truth about rooswelt, area 51, atomic bomb preparation, tesla, and enstein.. are you ready for Truth? they are just shitheads full of "great possibilities to start a war" ANYWHERE, they act like all the world belong to them..
I have solution: Just move them to Mercury and wait for 176 Earth days.. to be sure :DD
hahahahahahaa
"Shut 'er down boys."
- Talk of monitoring every users private e-mails and every browsed site for a record of 10 years.
-Secret blacklisted sites (besides the obvious nasty sites, what else will they censor).
I might sound paranoid but it's pretty obvious every government in every country will want to end up regulating the net. It's no secret all this stuff was going to happen.
Ofcourse, his reasoning behind it (he's worried about banks and government being hacked and wants to shut off THE INTERNET rather than those system's connection to the internet?) is idiotic.
What I couldn't gather from the article: how influential is this guy, and how likely is it for this bill to gain any traction?