Tupac Performs at Coachella - Holograph Technology

slipsius

Ok, this is just frigging AMAZING. So, the technology is there... How about it boys and girls. Do you see a future for gaming with it? I wouldn't be surprized at all....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jucRWjtrcgU"]Tupac Hologram performing at 2012 Coachella With Snoop Dogg!!(FULL PERFORMANCE) - YouTube[/ame]

Mcejn

I see Nirvana and Beatles concerts raking in assfuck amounts of cash.

fearian

Wow that's fucking disgusting. That a company can own enough rights to someone's name to animate a replica of them using their face, name, body and work to sell a show.

wtf.

leslievdb

i think this topic should be about the tech and not the unethical portrayal of dead people .

judging from the video it looks very realistic except for some sliding but that probably wasn't even noticeable from the audience point of view. i'm up for some yugiohish hologram cardgame battles! (but with cool creatures)

skankerzero

wtf is wrong with the audio?

slipsius

You mean besides it being rap, Jesse? Looks like just someone using a shitty camera to record it.

My initial thoughts were that they took a live perform he did back in the day, and just reanimated it somehow, using tracking software or something. I have no idea how they would do his voice to say whats up coachella, but if they just used tracking software to reanimate him, then they probably did that, but since he walks all over the stage, they probably needed him to stay in a certain area, for the projection to work probably. So they just made him walk in place so he wouldnt go too far.

r_fletch_r

skankerzero wrote: »

wtf is wrong with the audio?

its tupac


Who the hell would pay full rates for this shit? Your just watching a video.

cynisism aside anyone know how the tech works?

slipsius

r_fletch_r wrote: »

its tupac


Who the hell would pay full rates for this shit?

coachella is a weekend music festival. So this was only 1 performance..

J0NNYquid

My buddy was at Coachella and said that people were absolutely losing their minds when this happened. Nobody knew what to think, some people were crying, some were just going berserk. I for one am just blown away by the tech involved. If Coachella can have something like this, what's stopping it from making it into other industries and having who knows how many other applications.

leslievdb

r_fletch_r wrote: »

cynisism aside anyone know how the tech works?

why would you go to the theaters when you can watch a movie at home. stuff like this could add to the experience
(unless if you're referring to the multiple live concerts at once comment)



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-AhYnjKEzs"]GORILLAZ in 3D (live) - YouTube[/ame]

r_fletch_r

Ravenslayer wrote: »

why would you go to the theaters when you can watch a movie at home. stuff like this could add to the experience
(unless if you're referring to the multiple live concerts at once comment)

GORILLAZ in 3D (live) - YouTube

I came off as overly negative there, sorry about that. What I mean is I'd never pay to see a holagram of a dead dude with an audio track. As part of a larger show it would be awesome.

Vio

Wow so you could basically get to see legendary concerts that you might have been too young to see. I hope someone does this to the 101 rose bowl concert from 1988.

Frump

Well, forget video games. Time to get into holodeck programming.

ScudzAlmighty

Holo-suite time baby!

DeadlyFreeze

Not really sure why they call it a hologram, it's just being projected on a semi-transparent screen.

R3D

Didnt japan do this a year or two ago now with the live Hatsune Miku concert?

BlvdNights

Oh man I can finally have my dream of putting back together O-Town!

xvampire

this practice has so many use actually, instead of having 1 stage, performer can be divided in many hologram stage for crowd control,

but is it already 3d or still 2d?
it has quite bright future i have to say

thx to gorrilaz and hatsune miku for popularizing it, and now tupac for using real human figure

ericdigital

So any idea how there doing this? cg face on a actor? all cg?

R3D

ericdigital wrote: »

So any idea how there doing this? cg face on a actor? all cg?

I havent looked into it, but if i had to guess, a projection on a a semitransparent piece of glass or something similar.

ericdigital

right, but i mean more actually recreating tupac himself more so than the projection technology. After poking around its digital domains work and it sounds like hes entirely cg, but not 100% sure.

R3D

ericdigital wrote: »

right, but i mean more actually recreating tupac himself more so than the projection technology. After poking around its digital domains work and it sounds like hes entirely cg, but not 100% sure.

yeah entirely CG, mo-capped no doubt.

Seirei

I think it's another technology that's been used here but I thougt I might aswell just throw this one into it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI"]CV01 Hatsune Miku - World is Mine Live in Tokyo, Japan - 1080p HD - YouTube[/ame]

I'd say just from the ethical standpoint that a fully CG/fictional character is probably the best idea for this.

slipsius

This is probably how they did it

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Fuse

I suspect it was a body double made up to look like tupac. The lighting and the intricacy of the way his jeans deform looks a little too natural to be completely cg.

ambershee

This isn't new technology. I've seen stage shows projecting images onto screens like this before - over a decade ago.

rooster

I don't quite understand though, if they did it that way it's not 3d is it? it's still a flat plane. but I've read somewhere that it was '3d'- is that just reporters hyping it up?

Fuse

It's not 3D. If you watch the video, it cuts to angles where the perspective doesn't hold up. They are projecting onto some kind of transparent film or something since you can see the hologram walking inconsistently with the real ground in the beginning.

Justin Meisse

Dave Chapelle was right, Tupac is still alive!!!

I appreciate all the whiteys complaining about paying to see prerecorded music and then turning around and buying tickets to a Pink Floyd laser light show.

Permafrost

http://gizmodo.com/5902625/tupac-hologram-wasnt-a-hologram?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

It actually wasn't a hologram at all. It is CG, and they used an old magicians trick apparently of reflecting the image off of glass. Article above.

slipsius

perma, I posted a video on page 1 about it. but rooster was saying people were saying it was 3d, not 2d from the side. That's why he was confused.

Vio

All CG? bloody hell what did they do, mocap every strand of fabric in his trousers?

Psyk0

Oh great with this technology Madonna will be around forever -.-

Dustinbrown, i doubt it's possible to have starwars tech, but these are pretty cool:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-joRBvI0po"]360° Holographic Display - Prototype By Sony - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ro-ZRtp1I&feature=related"]Hologramme Hublot - YouTube[/ame]

benji

[vv]7047856[/vv]
^ how it was done

But still, was it seriously all CG? I find that very hard to believe. I assumed it was either a body double or recycled footage.

binopittan

Every miku's fans are laughing at this thread title

Ofc it's not a hologram... rather than saying the reporter/media hyping it in wrong terms, i think it's more like misinterpretation from the audience themselves.

JacqueChoi

I would pay money to watch Jimi Hendrix jamming with SRV, and Freddy Mercury on Vocals.



We can have Bruce lee there just kicking stuff too.

Andreas

r_fletch_r wrote: »

its tupac


Who the hell would pay full rates for this shit? Your just watching a video.

Every junkie north of the river!

Snader

Actually, real 3D holograms are possible already.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndNwMBEiVU"]'True 3D' Display Using Laser Plasma Technology #DigInfo - YouTube[/ame]

Sure it's still experimental, fuzzy, inaccurate, jittery and monochromatic, but so was the Cathode Ray Tube in 1912. By 1950 many people had a TV in their living room. Technology these days seems to move even faster.

PaulP

JacqueChoi wrote: »

I would pay money to watch Jimi Hendrix jamming with SRV, and Freddy Mercury on Vocals.



We can have Bruce lee there just kicking stuff too.

If there is a heaven, THIS is the kind of after-life gig I'll want to see!

Kot_Leopold

Psyk0 wrote: »

Oh great with this technology Madonna will be around forever -.-

I'll take her any day over *cough* bieber *cough*

Mongrelman

Bieber, on stage, on fire, for two hours. Every night.


Just sayin'

rooster

Snader: now THAT's exciting! I guess though images presented that way will always be in 'additive' mode, but it's pretty damn close to what we really think of as a 3d hologram

PogoP

Not seen anything behind the tech, but perhaps they're using the same technique they used to make the dancing ghosts in Haunted Mansion at Disneyland? I did some research into it when we made Kinect Disneyland. You should look it up!

It's obviously a 3d, animated model, projected onto the stage. Looks pretty cool, even though I'm not a fan of this type of music. Could easily imagine it with other bands/people. Imagine the uproar if they did this kinda of thing with Lennon!

eld

Snader wrote: »

Sure it's still experimental, fuzzy, inaccurate, jittery and monochromatic, but so was the Cathode Ray Tube in 1912. By 1950 many people had a TV in their living room. Technology these days seems to move even faster.

Have to agree, the one limitation of any display technology is that there's a requirement of a solid surface to project an image to or from, but this seems to as it says, project on to actual points of matter in air.

ikken

Ryswick wrote: »

Didnt japan do this a year or two ago now with the live Hatsune Miku concert?

they also did it to some dead no1curr Japanese rock dude back in 2008 youtube.com/watch?v=QAfgarsODf0&t=3m31s

on a side note, I'd absolutely love a 2pac vocaloid album and 3D karaoke game for ps3 feat. him and Amy Winehouse rap-covering Elvis

notman

I predict this will become the new fade that you'll get tired of seeing. As it's already been stated, this has been around for a LONG time, yet the media is just picking up on it, because of the Tupac video. You watch, this will start getting used in every awards show, and all the pop artists will start making it part of their stage act.

ikken

^ iirc Madonna did it for gorillaz performance sometime (when gorillaz were still relevant).
this whole tech it's quite expensive, and is not largely profitable for world-wide touring for example due to set-up complexities and such (unless things have changed in the recent years)

but I can imagine it being used for annual Dead That Way tours if we suddenly lose Gags to cocaine overdose.

eld

An overdose from the result of taking a few lines on one of the mirrors that make up the holographic illusion.

Also, time traveller from 91' :

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lyTasMAYic&feature=related"]Time Traveler laserdisc arcade gameplay - YouTube[/ame]

Will Faucher