[WIP] Rhino Car

burtonyang

Hey guys, here's a new project I'm doing for class. I'm following the final drawing in the second image and using some parts of the first. The concept is by Mike Yamada.

I'm also thinking about adding a cow catcher/pilot so that when the rhino rams into cars, they push them aside during a race.

burtonyang

Some progress.




Close up of the suspension, still a work in progress.

burtonyang

Another update.

Chimp

loving it so far, the concept is beautiful.
the wing on top faces the other way in the concept, i prefer it that way but other than that- great job so far!

Xoliul

Hey man, looks good, digging the suspension, you don't often see people doing those in a technically believable manner. I think the main shape of the body needs some tweaking, mostly at the back and bottom, it seems wider and clunkier there? Also add those headlights in, they're really important to read the body.

burtonyang

@Chimp: Thanks, I was contemplating about the top wing, but the other one does look more interesting so I'll change it back to the other one.

@Xoliul: Thanks, I spent a lot of time researching on suspension before I started making it; I'm glad it turned out believable! I agree the body is a bit fat, I think I made it like that subconsciously because it looked like it could realistically handle its speed. Also, I wasn't going to add the headlights in because I was following his final design more than the sketch he did in the image below since I liked that one more, but I'll try it out and add it in if it's really that important. The body also looked fatter in this image too.

Jessica Dinh

Cool, Burt! Love the suspension. Def would like to see headlights too, and also the other top wing is cooler.

burtonyang

Thanks Jessica, I'll make the changes!

burtonyang

Quick update, tried the headlights but I'm not really liking them. I also fleshed out the rocket boosters. Comments and critiques are welcome.

EDIT: Added the dome. Not really sure about it though.

Donavonyoung

This is really neato!

Ack Master

i actually really like this, something so cheesey and cute about it.

burtonyang

So I can't decide whether I should keep the glass bubble or a slimmer glass. Which should I keep?

Jessica Dinh

I like the big bubble way more - it's more fun and gives the car more character!

Jarkis

I agree with Jessica, it might be extremely exaggerated but it adds a lot of interest to the car.

konstruct

bubble for sure. slim glass = yawn.

Darkleopard

Agreed. put the big bubble back!

Lonewolf

:O this is cool

[Deleted User]

can you post a breakdown of the material your using? im assuming its in max

CandyStripes05

when i read Rhino Car i had a flashback to the old N64 game S.C.A.R.S. and how all the vehicles are shaped like animals

BARDLER

The front of your car is smiling

Avanthera

Awesome so far!

burtonyang

Thank you everyone, here's a little update, going to add the cow catcher next. I still want to add a drivetrain, brake calipers, and fleshing out the back of the vehicle more.

@xK1NGxOFxSKAx - The material setup is a dark gray material with high spec, a bit of gloss and a 3 point lighting setup. Sometimes I use the realistic shader in max when I'm on a different computer since my personal one doesn't support it.

burtonyang

Here's a little more progress, I'm going to get the low poly started as I keep refining some areas of the high poly too. I haven't thought of anything to put in the back of it yet, so any ideas would be great.

jordan.kocon

Personally I don't like the 'train' piece on the front bumper, but that's just my personal preference. I think the rest is looking awesome though! Nice modeling.

konstruct

yeah- Subjective crit; the train grill seems out of place to me too.
Everything has such a cool rounded and soft shape language, and the cattle guard seems more steam punk appropriate.

burtonyang

Here's an update on my wires. I will have the bake and texture started soon.

burtonyang

Normals with AO in Marmoset. Anyone know why I have black lines in my model? I'm also thinking about taking my triangle count from the 8-10k range to 12-15k, any thoughts on that would be good too.

burtonyang

First diffuse pass. Anyone know a workflow for the headlights?

PhoenixWolf

damn son!

burtonyang

First pass on the specular and gloss map. Time to dirty, detail, and decal! I also tried the post process filter that everyone uses for kicks and giggles. Enjoy!

Jessica Dinh

This is so adorable! Love the textures so far - is there gonna be some sort of tread on the tires? Personally I would pull back the post process effect a bit, it's kindof muting your colors. Looking forward to the polish :] Last stretch!

wasabi

like the color scheme!! tri count seems a little bit too high but who cares!! The result is awesome..

burtonyang

Almost all the way finished! I still need to figure out how to make good textures for headlights.

@Jessica: Thanks, the tires are slick tires or racing tires so there isn't really a type of tread.
@Wasabi: Thanks! It's a portfolio piece so using a little more triangles should be no biggie.

Which version do you prefer? 1 or 2?

EDIT: Lets just go with #1

Jeremy Tabor

Haha! I like it. A very nice clean look, befitting of the style.

How did you wind up going about the glow of the boosters on the back? What that done in post, or in Marmoset?

SHEPEIRO

awsome...if your going to split up the shaers and add a transparent glass windscreen i would do the same for the headlights and add some interior detail...loving the style

Tom Pritchard

I'm not sure I like the green of the glass, it seems to contrast negatively with the orange of the bodywork. Other than that, it's lookin' good.

gilesruscoe

Love this!! Would be nice to see some strong fresnel and cubemap effects on the glass.

burtonyang

@Jeremy Tabor: Thanks! The glow of the boosters is done in Marmoset using spotlight volumetric lighting.

@SHEPEIRO: Thanks, I'll give it a try!

@Tom Pritchard: Now that I look at the concept again, the windshield is more blue, nice catch.

@gilesruscoe: I would love to add strong fresnel and cubemap effects, but I don't know how to do that even more so in Marmoset than I already did. I turned the specular sharpness up to 256 (or max). Marmoset doesn't really support a slot for reflections itself and it's built into the specular sharpness.

EarthQuake wrote: »

Marmoset lighting = image based lighting, from cubemaps. Specular = reflection. Create some new skys if you want different reflection.

Spec sharpness = cubemap resolution.

I think the highest resolution(full res) cubemaps got disabled at some point in production on DoD, maybe that can be added back in. This is probabbly what most people want when they talk about reflections, just sharper reflections.

But you're not going to see a "reflection" slot, as its already happening.

The reflection "mask" is just your specular, and gloss textures. One controls sharpness, the other intensity.

I hope they add the full resolution for cube maps back into Marmoset in the next update! It would help me and everyone else a lot

Xoliul

Lights: http://www.laurenscorijn.com/articles/texturing-rearlights

Liking where this is going man, nice and chunky, clean textures.. good work so far!
I suggest you try my shader; I've always tweaked it to make it work well with vehicles, plus it has some options for soft illustrative (cartoony) lighting. Things Marmoset just doesn't allow you any control over.

gilesruscoe

Yea XoliulShader would work a treat, or if your not using max then you could always try UDK - anything that has a little more cubemap control that marmoset (as much as i love marmoset i just wish they had seperate reflection controls).

praetor187

Man this looks so cool. The texture work is really well done too. Nice and sharp.:)

burtonyang

Its been a while since I've worked on this and I finally had the time to finish it up! I tried all sorts of rendering methods such as Marmoset, Xoliul, and UDK. I found that Marmoset was probably the best since it was the only one that didn't give me as many shading errors compared to the other ones. And thanks Xoliul for the great headlight tutorial! I'm calling this one done and here are the final images:





Thanks to those who have helped along the way.