[DS2] Hammer, SgtNasty

SgtNasty

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FINISHED!

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Ok, first competition ever, pretty excited. So I think I'm going to try for a hammer, just throwing out ideas. Here's a first batch of thumbnails, I think I will do another batch tomorrow, then start working some favorites up on Friday.

Not really aiming at any specific style yet, they all sound cool. I had a theme in mind while creating some of them. Any thoughts?

Frump

I think in general the size of the hammer heads here is pretty conservative. Try exaggerating a bit more and mixing up the proportions. Try out some larger chunkier shapes and less terrestrial forms.

thepapercut

Number three, is a design that stood for me.

Di$array

15 looks like it could be a really good angelic hammer.

SouthpawSid

6, 7, 8, 9, 15. and 16 are the ones that stood out to my liking.

SgtNasty

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Frump, I actually had the heads quite a bit bigger but scaled them down to try to fit with the proxies dimensions. I think you are right though, and I went too far down.

Plan of attack for tonight is to get some more exaggerated/cartoony proportions and forms.

I think I've narrowed down my styles. I'm going to do at least 20 thumbs for the maker theme, 20 for the angelic theme, then work up some better versions of #3 (core themed).

SgtNasty

Ok, I think I'm going to shoot for the Maker theme. Did another batch of thumbnails, getting close to moving to the next phase.

SouthpawSid

I like 17, 18, 21, and 26. 26 jumps out to me a ton more than the rest. Loving the breaks along all the flat surfaces. Glad you went with Maker. Not enough of that theme in the contest yet IMO =]

Myrddraal

i also like 18 & 26

ageless

21 all the way and 18.
Cool Concepts on the second sheet.

Isobel

i'd say 22, 24 and 28 they looks nicely painfull ^^ and like they will rip up someone good once pulled out.

Di$array

I think you have a good silhouette with 18.

Twoflower

really liked 18 aswell

praetus

I'm feeling 18 and 26. Some good looking thumbnails

BoBo_the_seal

really good silhouettes! Just about any of them would work. I personally like 17 and 26

- BoBo

Kratilim

All of them look great. But 21 and 22 would be my choice.

Digital Cantina

26 is the winner for me

SgtNasty

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I decided to do a few variations of number 17, 21, and 26. Feedback on everything would be appreciated, and I'm not opposed to mixing and matching parts together. Oh, and the front of the head of 17A is pretty much straight out of the example hammer, so I don't think I'll use that one.

SgtNasty

Did a quick test with Death and #26C (with a few tweaks). I'm going to keep iterating in 2D and try to get something good going there first.



PS Big thanks to Bryan Cavett for that shot of Death, I think that's going to be super helpful for everyone.

jmt

I like the design you blocked out in 3d the most. You might want to make the handle thinner. It could use some more bevels, specifically on the bottom area and the part that connects the handle to the hammer.

SgtNasty

Ok, reworked the design a bit, added in some more detail. I think I'm starting to get close to a final design now, any feedback would be much appreciated.

thepapercut

Really nice job dude!
I can't really say much on what to add.

SouthpawSid

cool shapes and color pallet! My only suggestion would be to double t he size of blunt end of the hammer. Or maybe 1.5X. Really push some crazy proportions to add interest.

SgtNasty

Thanks for the feedback Sid. I made the face of the head a bit bigger in the 3D blockout version. I might be a bit outside the proxy, but I think it's starting to come together now.

I did two versions below, one with spikes on the face and one without. I'm sort of torn on this one. On one hand, spikes are bad ass. On the other, spikes might be a little too brutal for the maker style. Also, without spikes make the face stones contrast with the rest of the hammer's ornate-ness. Thoughts?

SouthpawSid

oh man. with spikes PLEASE.

jmt

I like the spikes, but that seems like a lot of them in the most recent screenshot. I think I prefer the hammer head and spikes in your first block-in.

pulyx

Looking spectactular man.

Maph

Looking good man, although I agree with jmt on the spikes, it's a bit much.

SgtNasty

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'm going to keep the spikes, but I'm going to play with them a bit and try to get them to look right. If I can't get them too look right, I can always just take them off.

I think I need to work on how the handle connects to the head, and work on adding some detail of how all the pieces of the head connect. I'll probably incorporate #26's plate and bolt piece on to the most recent one. I also want to accentuate the runes in the middle of the head, and maybe make them glowy.

Hopefully I can have a final block in with a quick paintover of some details done tonight.

eazy

your work is looking awesome so far, man! keep it up!

naruSol

I like the spikes but maybe try them more uneven, various lengths or levels of blunting so it doesn't just look like SPIKES!

woogity

I really like the hammer front from post no 19 but the new main detail is much improved.

-Woog

SgtNasty

Thanks for the crits. List of changes:

-Changed the face of the hammer to 26C (post 19).
-Broke the points off some of the spikes, made the center spike bigger.
-Made the runes in the center of the head glow.
-Adjusted the ornaments on the back of the head; lower poly, better looking.
-New top for the handle, to attach to the head more believably.
-Made the center ornament on the handle smaller, more out of the way. Might need to be removed, hopefully someone from Vigil can chime in on that.
-New pommel.
-Added some connecting plates with bolts. One is on the top of the head to connect the face and center. One is at the back of the handle and bottom of the head (sort of hard to see from this angle). Added the connection plates and bolts to make it a little more functional, and it should read bettter from other angles.

New shot, think I'm pretty much done with the concept phase, but always open to crits and willing to change stuff.

jmt

Looks cool, man. I like the color choices. Maybe it could use some more purple, and gold details in the areas that are largely grey right now. I don't know how final the pattern designs are, but it might look good to have some other styles.

AimBiZ

Nie progress, just too clean atm but I guess you've already got that in mind. I'd especially like to see those spikes bent and dented and have the details a bit chunkified.

SgtNasty

Ok, I think I'm pretty settled on this for the concept. I made a bunch of little tweaks and changes, the main one being changing the spikes on the face a bit more. Now there are four, arranged in a diamond pattern. Changed up the colours a touch and did some damage to it, just to get a better idea of how it will look. C&C please.

jmt

Your latest image didn't show up for some reason.

SgtNasty

wth.... imgur why u do dis? Hopefully this one will work:

Habboi

I'd say you've captured the Maker style spot on. Maybe just make the extruded rings at the bottom gold and see what that looks like otherwise you're good to go.

Ziggy

nice progress there keep it up!

SgtNasty

Hey, thanks for the comments guys. Habboi, I think you are right about the pommel, and I'll definitely adjust that in the texturing phase. Gonna start on the blank tonight, hopefully I can have it ready so that I can sculpt all weekend

Hang10

The style is spot on! Looking forward for this one

Spug

When those nice pin light highlights are on the gold, its gonna sell this model. Looks great.

SgtNasty

Thanks for the kind words. Worked on the sculpt a bit this weekend, got the stone part of the head pretty close to done I think, would be willing to make adjustments though. The sculpt is on the left, and I threw it in with the rest of the pieces of the head for reference on the right. I'm not sure if I'm going to have the whole thing unique or mirror it horizontally to save texture space, I'm thinking the latter at the moment, but we'll see. Thoughts?

SgtNasty

Almost done the sculpt now. A few things need to be fixed up, but some feedback would be great before I move on to the baking. I've altered a few things from the last design, mostly adding the maker "Super Man symbol" on to the center of the head. Thoughts?

Skamberin

See if you can give those spikes in front some thick-ass welding seams along their bottom edge (where they connect with the hammer head) to make the extra damaging part of the hammer look like a bit meaner, as if the smith who made it went "Eh, feck it I'll slap this bastard on too."
Otherwise I absolutely love it

Something like this:

But maybe a bit more exaggerated to fit the rest of the weapons style.

Japhir

Very cool work so far! I would make some of the corners a bit more champfered though, so that they look prettier on the bake. I would also develop the moustacheguy a little more, he seems a bit too rigid and squared off. In the stream avery mentions that they never use straight edges, they are always "knuckley".

SgtNasty

Thanks for the feedback guys, I agree with both critiques. I altered those areas:




Still need to fix up the wrap, then I'll be pretty close to done the sculpt.

SgtNasty

Ok, think I'm pretty much done with the sculpt, unless there are major objections. I'm going to start on the bake tomorrow, hopefully get into texturing next week.

Japhir

Hey, that looks much better already! I've done a quick paintover to illustrate what I meant earlier a little more, I hope you don't mind. Some of it might also be personal style/preference, so don't take my word for it .

SgtNasty

Thanks for the paint over Japhir, I did another adjustment to the face based on that.

Got the bake done, and did some work on the diffuse (very WIP). I'm not 100% happy with the model as a whole, but I'm learning a ton of stuff and think I will be able to finish on time. C&C always appreciated.