Death Knights - Lroy vs. itsmario

LRoy

Me and Itsmario decided to have a friendly competition on who could make the most deathlyiest knightiest death knight. He's doing the male and I'm doing the female version of the concept.

-Edited with finals.-

Male concept




vs.

Female concept




Thanks to Glenn Rane for the concepts!

Tenchi

This Vs thing seems like a great idea to motivate each other. And a great idea using this concept, looks fun. Will be watching ^^

LRoy

Very cool luke! I was thinking of doing her sword, but I'm not sure how it will turn out.

Azkur

awesome idea
cant wait to see the models

z3phon

subscribed to the thread. Good luck guys!

Daven

It's goin' down.

Jessica Dinh

This is gonna be fun to watch xD xD And at the end you should both have some nice port pieces!

makecg

nice concepts looks like alot of fun. good luck to you both.

ps. I am watching like Big Brother.

CandyStripes05

like the concepts - lets see what you two can do with them : )

Dan!

oh snap son

Barbarian

Looking good guys. Great way to make a good portfolio piece.

I just started sculpting a similar concept, but the head is more "undead"/"skullish."

KyleJensen

I love those death knight designs. It'll be cool to see them rendered out like the concepts. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

Dimfist

Should be fun. I was a menace on my DK in world pvp. =P

[Q]uik

this will indeed be interresting! great concept, love the sculpts and those concept images...
awesome^^

chrisradsby

Sweeeet, gonna be really interesting to follow this one ! Nice start!

Jeff Parrott

Dang Itismario you're knocking this out fast. Silhouette seems good. I'd play with the shapes on the lower forearms some. Great idea you two! Can't wait to follow this progression.

Sirdelita

Great start! I would like to see the male versions upper body and arms to be beefed up a bit if you're going for a stylistic approach, especially in the shoulder area. It will make for a more interesting silhouette.

Skyerzz

I'm really looking forward to see how these turn out

PaulP

Good start itismario, will be watching this one!

motenai

I'd work a little more on the proportions of the male before moving on the details, in my opinion the forearms are quite smaller than in the concept, and the head looks maybe a little too big in relation with the main shoulder pads.
Also the underneath shoulders, i think they should be larger.
Good luck for the friendly contest

Tairow

Very interesting the idea of the copetition, i'll try to do the same with my girlfriend, and it seems that the results will be quite nice! XDD

I agree with motenai try to exaggerate some of the proportions to make the stylistic design more appealing

LRoy

Blocking in upperbody.

PaulP

Itismario thats looking real good! As for your smoothing problem, I'm not sure how to smooth edge borders, but have you tried dropping a sub div level, smoothing the edges with smooth brush, then using 'reproject higher' to bring back the higher res detail?

PaulP

Oh right I think Iget what you're saying. How about isolating the outer edges through masking, and using deformation>Relax?

Wahlgren

I'm rootin' for ya Lroy. I like the female concept more

motenai

i'd try to re-approach the mantle... usually i approach it starting froma plane basemesh with the main shape of the mantle...then usually i extract it in zbrush (thickness allow u to work on the borders) and start working on the outside of the surface being sure to keep the 3 polygroups generated by the extraction, and to apply the "backface mask" to all the brushes i use.
At this point u should have a sculpted outside of the mantle...the only thing left to do is to keep visible only the sculpted polygroup and Delete the hidden parts with the DelHidden function...for a game mantle anyway u will need only one side of the mantle, and to the other with a double side material....otherwise if u need a mantle with thickness just re-extract the sculpted polygroup and u should be fine

daphz

Lroy - nice so far brah, I think her waist is still a little too thin though

Itismario - you've got a lot done so far man, but I would go back in on the cloth and try to define the wrinkles and folds a bit. all the cloth is looking kind of squishy

LRoy

Here you go daphz. I made her obese for you.

PaulP

Fat bottomed girls,
You make the rockin' world go round!

motenai

SCB wrote: »

Fat bottomed girls,
You make the rockin' world go round!

lovely quote ;D

DrunkShaman

Nicely done...Are you guys still working on this?

JoshC

impressive, most impressive.

MainManiac

Wow!

Lroy, how did you do those wrist straps?

Tenchi

Great start Lroy. Her face already looks really good ^^

LRoy

Thanks guys.

Frell : spacemonkey helped me out with his method. I made them in maya using nurbs (basically make two circles then loft them and convert to polys). Set it all up and bring it into maya to do a bit of fraying. His is much more effective though I suggest you take a peak at his thread.

Got a bit further. Still need to add the third skirt layer, foot cover, cape, and hair.

MainManiac

Could you link me to the thread please!

And wow that looks great! Shoulder pads look like pillows though

Tadao215

nice work, could we get some close ups?

PaulP

Nice update LRoy, the smaller details you've added are make a huge difference.

LRoy

Frell: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53730&page=21

Here's a closer shot.

Dylan Brady

hohoho! how have i missed this thread?
been checking the wips on skype. but there both looking sick. can tell its gonna be a fight to the death on this one :P

Dylan Brady

that swords looking mighty fine... love em both guys.
Mario I might watch out lest you catch some backfaces on the bake of that cloak. look like you've got just a tad bit of interpenetration.

PaulP

Very nice update itismario, and I can fully appreciate what you're saying about skyrim being a massive time drain!

motenai

itsmario one little thing i didn't say before...i think you would obtain a better result if u would model the mantle unique, and not mirrored, otherwise it looks kinda fake...
Also the folds in his lower cloth are a little random...i think u should look at some references, then block in the main folds and then detail the rest

LRoy

Hey guys. I accidentally deleted my screencast folder and lost the WIP images throughout the thread. Sorry about the derp moment.

Things on my to do list still the third layer of the shirt and revisiting all the cloth. I've tried following hazardous' advice from this thread (http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87907). So a big thanks to him.

If anything stands out to you guys please let me know and I'll address it the best I can.

Dylan Brady

Daaaam.
this is like watching AvP, whoever wins. we loose.
I love the stylized face, the eyes in particular are awesome.
I feel myself wanting a bit more of that upper lip overlapping effect.
over-the-top picture to help my point:

d2king10

itismario: I think you should go back and rework the face. Right now it looks very blobby and really takes a lot way from the entirety of your model. Looking at the character as a whole, it is hard to visually distinguish different parts of the model because everything is very blobby. Even if this is a blockout stage, it might be worth it to go in and define certain things to get a better view of the cohesiveness of the model.

Tenchi

LRoy, she's lookin mighty fine so far! You've definately got to do the sword too ^^

LRoy

Good eye dylan! I'll make sure to fix this asap.

Tenchi : I dunno about the sword. I've never really done a weapon before. I suppose for this its pretty necessary though.

JoshC

God Wills it!

badzee28

The male guy kinda reminds me of war from darksiders.

LRoy

Hey guys. High poly is about done. Gonna break symmetry and tweak a few things but I'll start the lowpoly soon.