I'm giving a talk about Polycount, game artists, being a professional.

adam

For the Toronto IGDA. Info here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=176705439075126

This is going to be a closed discussion, meaning its just for the people in the room. I am hoping to use a lot of artwork you guys have posted here as great examples of users improving, techniques being developed, what-to-do/what-not-to-do and so on.

I will do my best to contact everyone who's art I'll be using in my slideshow (again, not for web) and I will credit the artist in the slideshow itself.

I'm just wondering if anyone would take issue with me using the artwork without permission due to me not being able to contact them, and so on.

I'm not being paid for this, nor is IGDA making any money. It's purely me blabbing about how awesome this place is and things I've learned in my career and I'd really like to show us off to the audience.

Thoughts?

Skillmister

Why a closed discussion?

adam

Unfortunately we won't be broadcasting or videotaping it so its really just for the people in the room.

Rens

Sounds cool man, good luck

adam

Thanks. But back to my question -- lets say I couldn't contact you buy you had some images you've created that are perfect examples of a point I am trying to make. Would you care I had used it?

I mean, you've posted them to a public forum and no money is being made, so I reckon its technically "okay". But morally, and because I love you guys, I'd feel bad knowing you had a problem with it.

Ps: Not YOU specifically, Rens. Just using you as an example :P

[HP]

I'm pretty sure no one in here would mind if you show these images on a presentation, that's why us artists post our work here, for people to see it, so I don't think why anyone would be against it.

Gav

I'd be cool with it, for sure - It's information already made public and it'll help the community.

adam

That's what I figured. And I would never use a "what-not-to-do" example in light of "so this sucks pretty bad"

slipsius

Ill be there

Habboi

As long as it wasn't work made for a studio with the intent of making money then I don't see the problem I had a kid email me to ask if he could use my piece for a digital show so it doesn't hurt to ask.

Mark Dygert

As long as you are not running around claiming to have invented the internet and give proper credit to people, I don't see too many people having a problem, I know I wouldn't. Most of the people who are miserly with their good ideas never post them for fear of them being "stolen" (and they never get improved on because of it). Personally I'd rather see those types move on and not post here so, if you get a chance please piss them off =P

Rens

fo sho,

Yeah I doubt anyone would view it negatively.
Thats the whole reason work is out there.

(Unless something is part of a payed tutorial or so)

slipsius

I dont have much work up here, but I know i wouldnt care even if you used one of my peices saying this SUCKS..... BUT, he kept at it, got help, and now look at THIS! "woooooow". I feel most people would feel the same

Jeff Parrott

Sounds like a cool talk man. Have someone record it on their internet phone and post it up. Good luck.

haiddasalami

Bah why must you have this on my birthday Adam Hopefully be able to make it.

adam

If I can get it recorded, I will. I'm going to be talking a lot about a job interview at Valve I had a while ago and how that interview pretty much changed my outlook on my position in the industry in a very positive way. (It's also why I haven't shown a lot of personal projects lately.) I learned more in that 8 hours than I had in years.

I've *never* talked about it here, so there will definitely be some new thoughts coming out of me on that night.

teaandcigarettes

I don't think anyone would mind. If you plan on showing it in the context of people improving their skills over time, then all it does is it gets their name out there. Hell, they might even end up a getting a gig because of that.

On a side note seeing how people develop over time had been even more inspirational to me than seeing all those "ninja" posts, where people drop something awesome and then disappear.


Btw Adam,

If you won't be able to get it recorded, could you at least put up the slides online? I guess that could be a great compromise.

[HP]

Please, try and record it adam! I'll love to at least listen to what you have to say.
If not, I'm sure you can share the presentation with your notes later!

MeintevdS

Would be awesome if you manage to get it recorded! And I agree with the rest, shouldn't be a problem to use slides from the forum.

Nizza_waaarg

adam wrote: »

...I learned more in that 8 hours than I had in years.

I've *never* talked about it here, so there will definitely be some new thoughts coming out of me on that night.

talk about it now bro O_O

does sound like a cool talk you be setting up tho, hope you do manage to throw a copy up here for everyone

Sandro

, hope you do manage to throw a copy up here for everyone

+1

I'd love to learn more about this. It might be hard or awkward to do a recording, but would be great if you summed it up with couple of words later and maybe share notes/slides

DLoud

I for one wouldn'tt care if you showed my work. And, I would love to see a video of it or at least the slides if the video isn't an option

disanski

I am sure nobody would mind and I also hope we can see/hear what you gonna talk about.

DEElekgolo

Nothing cool ever happens in California...

adam

Well, if I were to give a topical example: Throwing your name in the hat of an art test posted online, where you get the unbelievable advantage of seeing what every single one of your peers are doing with the art test, and essentially creating the same thing they are. No matter how well its made, you need to show you're a creative person and ultimate stand out from the pack.

MikeF

Dont miss out on this one guys, adam was nice enough to give me a bit of a rundown on what he'l be goint over the other night at the toronto meetup.

Jungsik

what a great opportunity you have adam, it would be nice if you could get a recordin like everyones sayin, i might show up though so i can learn all da secretz about that interview zz

edit: I have to say the poster is kick ass LOL

d1ver

Would be fantastic to have a vid. Or even some notes with photos. Or just notes. Or even stop motion clay reenactment with with a soap opera style voice over. I mean whatever as long as it tells the story!
That Valve interview sounds amazingly intriguing.

skankerzero

be sure to mention how much we talk about dicks here.

greevar

I know I'm not a standout artist here, but my barrel thread was said to be inspirational on how a person can be dedicated to improving their skills and how well I took direction from others to make my art better. It at least points out how helpful polycount has been to even the least experienced artists.

Swizzle

I just want to echo what other people have been saying; if at all possible, get a recording, even if it's just audio. I'd love to hear whatever you have to say.

I'd also be interested in hearing about your interview experience with Valve. They seem to create a really unique working environment, so I'd love to know what sort of things you took away from an interview with them - especially considering how many applicants they probably have.

Autocon

Sounds like it will be a cool talk adam. I hope if you cannot share the talk its self you wouldnt mind sharing it here on PC after the fact, in like some General Forum post or a News Story

Mcejn

Really sounds like a good talk, sad we won't be able to hear it unless we go.

Expecting to see another thread after you've given it letting us know how it went!

wailingmonkey

set yer phone to record audio during the session, and upload the result?
(love to hear what you discuss there)

marks

+1 to getting a recording. Sort it out adam!

Sean VanGorder

skankerzero wrote: »

be sure to mention how much I talk about dicks here.

Fixed.



Also, a recording would be much appreciated.

skankerzero

oh, and dicks.



don't forget dicks.

DrunkShaman

I might be...able...to...attend...this....one. :poly122:

ScudzAlmighty

sounds pretty awesome Adam. If you can't get a recording, then I think at the very least the slides would make for a nifty News post given the lack of recaps/around the web type posts lately.


wait a minute, I seem too remember you making a pretty big deal about how awesome your iPhone's camera was, so why exactly can't you make vid again???

bbob

Yes please do video this for those of us unable to attend due to geography..

SgtNasty

I agree with everyone else, please record, that would be awesome.

marks

There had better be a penistank slide.

Frump

This sounds like it will be good. I hope to hear more about the Valve interview.

I read a Gamasutra interview recently with Gabe and Erik Johnson where they talk a lot about their studio culture. It was really illuminating, a recommended read: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/6471/the_valve_way_gabe_newell_and_.php

brandoom

Perhaps you could inform the audience of the proper and correct use of a lazy-susan.

Just saying. :P

I'll likely be in the audience - I look forward to it Adam.

Japhir

I obviously wouldn't mind, but if you have interesting comments I'd be interested in hearing them .

Rojo

Sounds interesting, you should at least record the talk using a phone in your shirt pocket etc.

jimmypopali

To quote from Twitter - "I'm going to have a blast talking about Polycount and other things I pretend to know about in Oct."

Ben Apuna

@adam:

I wish I could be there. I'm looking forward to anything you can share with us.

@Frump:

Great article! Thanks for linking to it. Valve sounds so awesome to be a part of. I wish more companies were like them.

JoeCyriac

Just wanted to echo the other comments here. Would be great to hear a recording or view slides of your presentation.

ZeroBigSis

Sounds awesome, would be really interested in any kind of recording/info you could share from the event, think the topics you plan to cover hit the nail on the head for a lot of polycount users. I can audio transcribe from a recording if wanted... (oh the joys of admin)

rolfness

you better be putting up pics of penis tanks.. Id love to hear you explain those..