Final year project: Anatomy Study

brwnbread

Hey, I am currently just about to start my final year at university after the summer break. I decided to start part of my project early as it should (hopefully) improve my skills for any other character art I do after this.

What I am doing, for this part is... A high poly anatomy study. I want to sculpt the bones, the muscles and then the surrounding skin. I hope to gain an in depth knowledge on the subject so I can recreate my own characters even when there is no specific reference available.

Anyway, I have only just started, progress is slow because of the summer holidays, but I will be updating this thread regularly for critiques.

I have started the skull and the first 7 vertebrae, but everything will still be WIP until near the end when I will start polishing pieces for presentation.



Any critiques or even useful links that would help are greatly appreciated,

Thanks

Skillmister

I know very little about anatomy so cant help you there but will be watching this with interest

Dan!

It looks good- currently the angle of his supraorbital process looks like hes frowning angrily.

Kot_Leopold

It does look like he's frowning which is not the case in real life. Eye sockets make a somewhat sad view like shown here:

brwnbread

Hey, thanks everyone... I (think) I have corrected those errors lol...

AND I have done more back . I am not sure about the proportions/curve of the spine; but I will change all that when I have done the rest of the links...



Have a feeling this is gonna take aaaages haha

Crits appreciated

makecg

nice work !

Korrax

You should rig that thing, lol.. looks good to me, Id do a higher quality render of it though.

brwnbread

Korrax wrote: »

You should rig that thing, lol.. looks good to me, Id do a higher quality render of it though.

lol its not finished... I am thinkin of polypainting it after I done the bones, and then I am guna do a layer of muscles and then skin...

brwnbread

Slow progress... I loaded up an old model to pose it better and sort the proportions out.

Oh, the rib cage is very place holder



crits appreciated

brwnbread

latest update... got all the pieces for the torso

LRoy

Dang you have some patience. I'd go nuts being that meticulous! Nice to see you still going strong.

toxic_h2o

This is going to be sweet when finished. Keep going!

Kot_Leopold

Looking good! No crits

brwnbread

So, I have finally blocked in all the parts. My computer is really shit, so I will start sculpting more detail in a few weeks when I am at uni... I think I will start on some muscles though.

TrevorJ

Looking good. i'm not to comfortable with anatomy but isn't the average human supposed to be eight heads tall?

mifflefish

no... 7 is about right, 8 would be for "heroic" proportions. the skull looks maybe a little wide to me but otherwise this looks mostly right.

TrevorJ

ahh, well there ya go, nm.

Jungsik

dude i really love this thread..keep going

Psyk0

Props for going all the way.

Angle of the brow makes him look angry, make it more like the real thing...less frowny

brwnbread

haha, thanks for the love, guys. its really motivating

I refined the bones, taking into consideration crits from various places/people:

sanketpro3d

its coming out great .. but i really think the legs could be a bit longer.

cupsster

+1

Jessica Dinh

I agree with sanketpro3d. Although your total body length is correct (7 heads), the legs look short. I believe the femur bone should be longer than the shin bone. I think it might be that the gap between your ribcage and pelvis is slightly too big, so if you shrunk that gap it would allow you to begin the femur/pelvis a little higher - leaving more room for leg-length!

Dylan Brady

BTW, the average for a realistic proportion male is 7 1/2 heads
but it varies obviously so 7 isnt necessarily wrong.

East

EDIT: Oh! Forgot, this looks great. I'm working on the exact same thing, myself, and know the amount of work that goes into it, so my hat's off to you for getting this far

Jessica Dinh wrote: »

[...] I believe the femur bone should be longer than the shin bone. [...]

That's not actually the case. The tibia/shinbone is just as long as the femur--actually usually slightly longer (but yeah the gap between ribcage and pelvis does look a bit much ) That's probably the most common mistake people do when they do human characters. I make that mistake all the time after a session of sculpting and have to go back and correct it.

Edit: Actually, I meant the lower leg is often slightly longer than the upper leg, not necessarily the tibia by itself. I'll leave the above unedited as a reminder to myself to think before typing.

We spend most of our time interacting with people at an eye-to-eye level, which skews the perspective of the legs when we observe them, and I'm sure that's why when we do characters we tend to get the proportions more wrong the further down we get.

It looks like the proportions are mostly correct, aside from the legs, and ribcage/pelvis distance, as mentioned:


Edit: Updated with the ribcage/pelvis distance that Jessica mentioned.

SimonT

nice thread and good tips in here! coool!

Torch

Love it so far, looks great to me

Jessica Dinh

East's paintover looks great!

Raider

How accurate do you want to go on the skeleton because there's a bunch of inconsistencies across the board if you're going for realistic i.e. lack of pubic symphysis completely, xiphisternum looks fused which doesn't happen until ~40 yrs, i can't see a ulna styloid process at all, the angle of the mandible is quite low, in males it gets extremely close to 90°, your ribs are continuous where they should actually end and then merge with costal cartilage which then articulates to the sternum etc. etc If you're not going that realistic then ignore what i've said

brwnbread

Thanks everyone for the crits and comments. They're Great.

To everyone that said the legs are short - Another person said the pubic syphosis should be half way down the body or slightly below, and not above. So should I should make the pelvis longer as well?

To Raider - I plan to go as accurate as need be for the surface anatomy, So tips like yours are perfect. I don't think I would have ever found out about the whole xiphisternum thing on my own.. Its exactly the kind of stuff I am trying to learn from this study.

I'm going to add the pubic syphosis (I should probably have made it part of the same geometry), and I was planning to poly paint the costal cartilage.

Anyway, I'm on everyone's crits, and you should see in the next update

Oh yeah, and for future crits, I guess it will help if you knew this information:
-Middle aged (30-40 I guess)
-Male
-Average build (mesomorph)
-Average height (7 heads) unless 7 1/2 is more average?
-White man

AlexanderL

According to Loomis, average height is 7.5 heads, but looks rather dumpy. 8 heads corresponds to 6 feet and is what Loomis prefers.

Hammed Al-Tamimi

Looks pretty good. Are you going to do a low poly bake?

jeremiah_bigley

your skull is really bothering me... Your eye sockets and cranium are too perfectly round. And you are missing how the cheek bone juts out. Bottom jaw is also sharper than you have it.
Hope this helps

brwnbread

Nah, I'm not gonna do a low poly version.

Iv done some more work on the skull, with everyones advice and some orthographic renders of a scan which was great help.

http://www.digimorph.org/specimens/Homo_sapiens/

Small update. I have been a bit busy... Iv changed him to 7 and a half heads now aswell.



A few more things to refine, but I'm going to start the muscles now

brwnbread

I started the face muscles. I think I might be missing a few. I only want to put in the muscles that will be responsible for changing the actual surface of the skin...

Also, I don't really get where the risorius muscle originates from? I'm having a hard time finding a good, solid place for reference lol, so if anyone can help me out, that would be awesome.

Anyway, progress:

brwnbread

Progress:

Fred2303

thats a great project! and very good job so far! im following this !

brwnbread

Ironically, I haven't worked as hard since I have been back at uni. But I am getting back on it as I am settling down.

Done the majority of the arm muscles. Still got a few to do on the fore arm. Heres my progress:

brwnbread

PROGRESS!

Still a few muscles missing around the place, but its getting there. Also, btw, I am just blocking muscles in before sculpting a more believable form to each of them. I think it will be easier to sculpt them all together...

brwnbread

more leg muscles!

MainManiac

Beautiful

Should release the finished model for learning :P