Rural Britan Industrial Age Scene
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Well I have decided to start a new project, the project is going to be based on creating real time game assets (for UDK) in an English Industrial age style. The main asset for the environment scene shall be a small house / Shack with supporting props to hopefully bring the scene to life. I hope to keep the poly counts to a minimum or game standard and hope to get some feedback and advice along the way 
Just a note: This was a previous thread on another site so Iam posting everything now to show my progression from the start.
Cheers
Glynn
Just a note: This was a previous thread on another site so Iam posting everything now to show my progression from the start.
Cheers
Glynn
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Thanks again for the advice and help!
As it may be noticeable, this is a render of the model with a quick light set up and no Normal / spec maps added yet. I am in the process of creating them now
Thanks for the comment Jan, yeah I purposely sagged the roof to add a sense of age and character.
Your comments are more than welcome
Thanks
I am looking forward to completing the house, ready for creating the specs, normal’s and then hopefully exporting into UDK complemented by some props.
Your opinions always welcome!
Cheers
As you may be able to see I have tried to take in and work upon all contructive criticism. I have reviewed the main textures as I agree after looking back the stone was quiet hard to read however I have also tried to pick a different colour scheme in order to complement the wood texture.
This model is roughly 3,000 tris as I am trying to focus on low poly, I am currently creating props for the shack so I hope to not run over 5,000 regarding the finished piece, I feel that may be a reasonable count.
You opinions always welcomed
Cheers
I have currently just been knocking up some props for the overall scene so here are some grabs of what I have made up to now.
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Outside Porch - 291 Tris
Broken cart wheel - 500 Tris
I plan on having this placed out the front of the shack, sheltered by the porch.
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Simple bench Prop - 266 Tris
I also plan on placing this out the front just under the window on the far right.
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I have created this shack with some custom props. I stuck to my guns and have not exceded my poly count of 5,000 polys, I am currently at 4,006. I now hope to import them successfully in UDK and start getting to grips with the program to construct a basic Scene
Updates Shortly and your crits always welcome.
Thanks to everyone so far!
Below are some renders of the shack before I start importing.
It might be noticeable to some but I did take an an earlier post opinion in mind about down sizing the corner stones, cheers I feel its much better suited now.
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Cheers
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As can be seen from the screen grabs I have been playing around with a rough set up of the scene. I checked a tutorial regarding creating the terrain too which has been quiet interesting. I have tried to roughly plot out the elevation of some terrain but I will defiantly advance on this...along with lighting and sky. I hope to create some more assets to fill the environment for example fences, sign posts, trees and so on, I hope to end up with a small community made up of a few houses props and foliage, generally resulting in an inhabited feel.
Of course this is early days so I greatly appreciate anyone’s constructive crtis
Cheers!
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Your crits most welcome
Cheers
Glynn
Sorry everyone....I am having a retarded day
All the other logs on the texture are rounded, but the ones you have put sticking out are chopped in half.
Why don't you try using a 5-6 sided cylinder with a flat plane+alpha on the end to describe the end of the log?
Looks good though, what a massive improvement from the first post!
I'd say on the side of a building, no matter what the surface, you'd be hard pushed to find a crack that deep that it would be so dark. Try lightening them up a wee bit. This will also help the object read a little better at longer range.
The cracks are large, which means chances are more light would enter them and they would also be more bevelled.
Well I have been playing around with the scene set up and have been still getting the hang of the UDK engine, really starting to enjoy it I have placed some unreal assets, rocks and foliage around the environment to help plan out the scene before I create eventually create my own.
Below are some grabs of some extra props I am on with and plan to incorporate them within the scene. I also have an image of what I have so far with some added plan notes, rocks and foliage.
Cheers
Glynn
I have recently been given some advice too from you guys at Polycount
Updating soon!
+1.
lighting needs some work as well, your shadows really dark. Add a skylight at like 0.2 and claer them up.
Cheers for all your comments and apologise for lack of updates however just working in my spare time.
I am in the process of sorting those logs out as you’re not the only person that, I guess I was trying to cut polys like a tight ass yet break up to silhouette, I see your point tho
I am also optimizing the wheel too, I felt it was maybe abit high poly much for what it is and thanks for pointing that out.
Below is an update of progress so far.
I have re edited abit of the terrain as you may be able to notice and I have also added in the fence, sign post and water well.
Thankyou for suggesting editing the sky so I have edited slightly and brightened the dominant sky light.
Updates soon and you comments appreciated!
Oh and does anybody have any good ideas/methods for closing off the scene in the background, I was thinking firstly to incorporate a hillside on the skybox texture?
Cheers
Glynn
- Your going for an industrial age england feel right? Well the one thing that sells industrial England to me is smog, smoke stacks and generally stark shadows and darker colours. Your scene though is saying the opposite, you've got really bright skym grass and tree with what look like very unrealistic colours.
Initially I think you should try and work the colours of the lighting to help you out, then move onto the sky, add story and backdrop shapes to help sell the scene, then start working on the landscape and foliage colours.
Your composition is also sort of awkward, but that's something you can work on when you've got the ambiance sorted out.
This is a great example of how rural england was during the industrial revolution: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jkBU5I8CdMQ/TQEeLA0_NvI/AAAAAAAAAB4/biwRQOdfxKk/s1600/sy2079.jpg
And here are some more realistic colours : http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00657/news-graphics-2008-_657846a.jpg
Anyway keep it up man, this is only the final piece of the puzzle!
But your roofs could really push this. Id also say put some barrels around, some grain sacks etc.
that would be urban.
This looks like its in some vast open space, I would throw in some background hills. get some atmospheric fog going in the bg and make the sky a bit greyer
soil wise it looks very sandy which isnt really very fitting, normally you would expect, cowshit and furrowed mud, lots of puddles and the odd stone.
Id also get some stone walls in there.
Thanks ever so much for the comments and cheers@ myles / r_fletch_r for your examples.
I am currently re texturing the ground surfaces too as I agree they need to change and are too clean and dry looking. I am also debating whether to change the overall lighting and sky texture as an evening sun set could be interesting and help produce a more moody atmosphere.
Cheers and updates later
Glynn
just a quick post, I have been faffing about with a new texture scheme today regarding the ground so this is what I have come up with. I have got as you may be able to see three texture layers..Grass and Soil, I have blended this also with a trodden soil texture were applicable.
Hope this may be a..step.. in the right direction
Cheers
Glynn
I would say about 2,oclock. What tint of colour would you recommened? I have given a slight tinge blue to the overall environment colour but not edited the lights at all.
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I think r_fletch_r was right about the atmospherics of your scene. I would add some fog, rolling hills and even some hedges to your scene. Plus I think if you were to pull your light back and maybe lower. Also softening of the shadow edges, I think you'll get the look your going for. Right now your light is at about 10 am to 11 am. R_fletch_r's pics are great references for a early morning scene. I think you might as well ask yourself what kind of mood do you want. In my opinion everything else looks great.
The best suggestion I could give you is to take a pic of your current scene and play with it in Photoshop and see where your imagination takes you.
Well I have been tying to take on all your advice on board and this is what I have come up with so far.
I have decided to go for an evening sun set as It could prove to be interesting and fancied playing around and creating some moody lighting....this is what I have produced.
I have tried using the height fog actor but it I couldn't get the desired effect or the background, I think I need to just use Volume fog? just so I can place it in the background or where ever I want and not fog the entire scene. I also intend on breaking up the landscape with walls and hedges. I am currently using the UDK foliage until I produce my own.
Cheers for your help!
Glynn
Just a small update and another screen grab. I have been doing a little tweaking with the lights and also the background and sky.
The most noticeable thing I am sure is the walls
I am glad I have created some now as I do feel it gives the scene some sense of flow in terms of composition and helps block in the main focal point.
More work to be on with updates soon.
Cheers for your input
Glynn
-The stone wall looks weird. The gaps between the rocks are pure black. Should probably work on that a bit. Also doesn't look like you used reference for the walls. From a glance, all the stonewalls I saw were horizontally stacked rocks, whereas yours seem to be a wall texture wrapped around the top of the wall.
-Some people don't like bloom, but I think this scene would benefit from it. Just go easy with it.
-The leaves on the trees look white at certain angles. Is that the species of tree you chose? It seems like the leaves have a pure white spec map applied to them or something. At any rate, I didn't see any white leaves when I googled "English Countryside" so you might want to change the leaves.
Can you show a breakdown/closeup of your trees and branches/leaves.
Thanks.
thanks or your input.
Cheers @Design Runner / DietCoke and thanks for your support reference SgtNasty. I intend to put some more love and care into creating some modular wall sets e.g broken, complete and end pieces. I am unsure as to what would be breaking the general poly count budget as I thought about modelling the wall with slanted bricks on the top individually, might that be the best way around creating the wall?
As for the trees and foliage I am aware that the assets ain't exactly fitting in with scene now however there just been placed at the moment to block out the environment, to get a general feel before I create my own assets
I am interested in maybe creating bloom lighting, does anyone know of any good tutorials or is it fairly simple to do?
Many thanks!
Glynn
here again. having abit of a problem and hoping somebody can help out. Below is the basic wall I currently have along with a reference picture of what I aim to replicate. Does anyone have any advice on what's the best way around achieving this result.
Thanks
334 Tris