HP, I have a request! Can you show us specific details broken away from the rest of the model. I'm interested in how you did..
-your paneling. How you controlled your edgeloops in order to cut in the space between panels.
-your minute detailing found within recesses of the paneling. Close up shows of the edge work here would be great.
-Any thing else along the lines of these requests.
this is badass!! I love your attention to detail on each panel in the detail denting pass. very clean and tight modelling, awesome.
only part i don't quite get, or doesn't read well in the model is the array of circular holes behind the driver side door on the wheel well front panel. In the concept they read like vent holes, but on the model/render they look a little like extrusions, which may be a product of light placement & material on that part of the metal reflecting the indents... but it just reads a little odd. Would be easily solved in texturing, but its my one gripe out of 100000 <3s
HP, I have a request! Can you show us specific details broken away from the rest of the model. I'm interested in how you did..
-your paneling. How you controlled your edgeloops in order to cut in the space between panels.
-your minute detailing found within recesses of the paneling. Close up shows of the edge work here would be great.
-Any thing else along the lines of these requests.
Now that I've asked to see the goods, how about some proper feedback, ya?
Paul (Pepera) and I were discussing your model over chat and came up with some thoughts. Below is a mish-mash of his and my thoughts on the model.
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I think a lot of people are being blind sided by your excellent ability to model highpoly surfaces. You're very good at it and are one of my personal favourites.
However -- and really this is a comment about the vehicle itself -- but there's a lot of random sci-fi shit in here that really throws the impact of its design off. Random illogical panel cuts and shapes, elements of function that seem very random, and overall shapes that feel like they are there for whiz-bang sci-fi magic rather than a functioning, believable vehicle.
To be specific about what I am saying, here's some examples:
The tires. There's very little in them that feel like that all lend them self to the function of the vehicle. Besides the tread itself, all of those mechanical bits just feel.. there. They're cool, and you modeled them well, but they feel useless.
The large panel holding the "1, 2, 3" panels: Why does it twist as it does? In a vehicle like a motorcycle this sort of molding would fly but in a military vehicle not everything needs sexy form to it. When it comes to military vehicles function > form.
This doesn't feel like a large vehicle. It feels like a road vehicle, scaled, with a door attached to the side thus making it 'larger'.
You'll notice our feedback has nothing to do with your modeling ability but everything to do with the original design of the concept. This is not your fault, obviously. However -- especially for a modeling challenge/contest -- we think it would have been an excellent idea to flex your creative muscles and break out of the illogical choices this concept has and create the vehicle with function in mind. It would have been everything this model currently is without any of its short-comings.
This is feedback I wish I had given myself with some things in my own portfolio but apply to the work I do today as much as I can. So, reviewing your model was a learning experience unto itself. Thanks for that, haha.
Again, thanks for the comments / critics, it means a lot guys! I got contacted by Scott, we might get this guy printed, if I can get it STL checked this century! :P
adam, I'm no modeling guru, but I can share a few techniques I used on the panels, I'll write down a few lines about it soon and try and show a few pics to explain it better.
Regarding your feedback (and pauls), you did brought a very good point to the table, it's usability and/or function.
Often there's a very faint line between realistic and sci-fi, and function can't always make sense in the latter, wouldn't be sci-fi if it did. So I just tackled the model as a unrealistic sci-fi piece, and I didn't take the concept by heart as I took a lot of liberties too, much more fun and interesting to work and look at, if you take a few liberties here and there to make it look better.
If this model were for an actually game project (production), the way I would tackle the modeling would be greatly influenced by on how the Art Direction would be like, if it would be a very Sci-Fi game I would have made very blunt and 'futuristic' shapes, and it would need to look almost unrealistic.
If it would be for a realistic military game set in the future, then in that case one would need to do a little study of real life tanks and somehow manage to implement this within futuristic shapes, hence why I mention previously the faint line between realistic and sci-fi; it really depends on the context; and in this case I see this as being a purely sci-fi piece, one for the fiction world where fun come first and function follows.
With that being said, I am not disregarding your feedback in any way, as it's a very good point, so thank you for that!
The tires. There's very little in them that feel like that all lend them self to the function of the vehicle. Besides the tread itself, all of those mechanical bits just feel.. there. They're cool, and you modeled them well, but they feel useless.
I don't know, looks like the designer has a visible brake drum assembly housed inside the wheel. It might not be practical but its definitely intentional.
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-your paneling. How you controlled your edgeloops in order to cut in the space between panels.
-your minute detailing found within recesses of the paneling. Close up shows of the edge work here would be great.
-Any thing else along the lines of these requests.
Pretty please?
only part i don't quite get, or doesn't read well in the model is the array of circular holes behind the driver side door on the wheel well front panel. In the concept they read like vent holes, but on the model/render they look a little like extrusions, which may be a product of light placement & material on that part of the metal reflecting the indents... but it just reads a little odd. Would be easily solved in texturing, but its my one gripe out of 100000 <3s
Please?
Paul (Pepera) and I were discussing your model over chat and came up with some thoughts. Below is a mish-mash of his and my thoughts on the model.
---
I think a lot of people are being blind sided by your excellent ability to model highpoly surfaces. You're very good at it and are one of my personal favourites.
However -- and really this is a comment about the vehicle itself -- but there's a lot of random sci-fi shit in here that really throws the impact of its design off. Random illogical panel cuts and shapes, elements of function that seem very random, and overall shapes that feel like they are there for whiz-bang sci-fi magic rather than a functioning, believable vehicle.
To be specific about what I am saying, here's some examples:
You'll notice our feedback has nothing to do with your modeling ability but everything to do with the original design of the concept. This is not your fault, obviously. However -- especially for a modeling challenge/contest -- we think it would have been an excellent idea to flex your creative muscles and break out of the illogical choices this concept has and create the vehicle with function in mind. It would have been everything this model currently is without any of its short-comings.
This is feedback I wish I had given myself with some things in my own portfolio but apply to the work I do today as much as I can. So, reviewing your model was a learning experience unto itself. Thanks for that, haha.
-4 cents
nice crits from adam btw
adam, I'm no modeling guru, but I can share a few techniques I used on the panels, I'll write down a few lines about it soon and try and show a few pics to explain it better.
Regarding your feedback (and pauls), you did brought a very good point to the table, it's usability and/or function.
Often there's a very faint line between realistic and sci-fi, and function can't always make sense in the latter, wouldn't be sci-fi if it did. So I just tackled the model as a unrealistic sci-fi piece, and I didn't take the concept by heart as I took a lot of liberties too, much more fun and interesting to work and look at, if you take a few liberties here and there to make it look better.
If this model were for an actually game project (production), the way I would tackle the modeling would be greatly influenced by on how the Art Direction would be like, if it would be a very Sci-Fi game I would have made very blunt and 'futuristic' shapes, and it would need to look almost unrealistic.
If it would be for a realistic military game set in the future, then in that case one would need to do a little study of real life tanks and somehow manage to implement this within futuristic shapes, hence why I mention previously the faint line between realistic and sci-fi; it really depends on the context; and in this case I see this as being a purely sci-fi piece, one for the fiction world where fun come first and function follows.
With that being said, I am not disregarding your feedback in any way, as it's a very good point, so thank you for that!
I don't know, looks like the designer has a visible brake drum assembly housed inside the wheel. It might not be practical but its definitely intentional.