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New linkedin.User Agreement

You own the information you provide LinkedIn under this Agreement, and may request its deletion at any time, unless you have shared information or content with others and they have not deleted it, or it was copied or stored by other users. Additionally, you grant LinkedIn a nonexclusive, irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual, unlimited, assignable, sublicenseable, fully paid up and royalty-free right to us to copy, prepare derivative works of, improve, distribute, publish, remove, retain, add, process, analyze, use and commercialize, in any way now known or in the future discovered, any information you provide, directly or indirectly to LinkedIn, including, but not limited to, any user generated content, ideas, concepts, techniques or data to the services, you submit to LinkedIn, without any further consent, notice and/or compensation to you or to any third parties. Any information you submit to us is at your own risk of loss as noted in Sections 2 and 3 of this Agreement.

By providing information to us, you represent and warrant that you are entitled to submit the information and that the information is accurate, not confidential, and not in violation of any contractual restrictions or other third party rights. It is your responsibility to keep your LinkedIn profile information accurate and updated.
Those thing are getting worst first it was dropbox now linkedin
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  • EarthQuake
    I really fail to see why people getting their panties in a bunch about this stuff. You are giving away information to be publicly visible, if you have information you do not wish to share, do not put it on networking websites.

    Seriously, what the hell is the problem? This is just some nutter tin-foil hat stuff, you think linked-in is going to... Sell.... Your resume?.... To..... ??

    If their EULA said ANYTHING ELSE, they would just be asking for legal trouble.
  • Ace-Angel
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    Ace-Angel polycounter lvl 12
    But what happens if they sell my name and resume to my arch nemesis? He clearly could swoop in and take all my job offers!
  • Kot_Leopold
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    Kot_Leopold polycounter lvl 13
    ^What EarthQuake said. Seriously, I don't see any problem with their UA.
  • D4V1DC
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    D4V1DC polycounter lvl 18
    Thanks for the heads up.
  • Kwramm
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    well they can have the rights to my resume. I'm not really uploading artwork or sharing any work which belongs to my employer

    ...and that's why you might want to check a TOS and ensure you're not acting against your IT policy. Because people do use dropbox and other 3rd party tools at work where they are not even aware they're signing away certain rights. While dropbox is certainly one of the trustworthy providers, you sure don't want to accidentially find something from your studio floating around in the wild because shady-service-xy gave it to their advertising partners or affiliates. And that's why you'd like to take this seriously if it's not your own personal work you're uploading.
    ...but then again it's your job ;)

    although if you read the TOS, it's not your resume they care about - it's your content and personal data they can use - it'll probably end up with some company which serves you customized advertising based on the info they datamined from your resume - depending on any other affiliates they may combine this data and..... profit? not that I care, but I guess that's the deal behind this TOS.
  • glynnsmith
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    ...and Dropbox isn't stealing your shit. They're protecting their ass, in order to be able to host your files.

    As for LinkedIn. I haven't used a resume to get a job in the last 10 years. You're all welcome to it ;)
  • Justin Meisse
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    Didn't geocities have the same Eula? Hahaha

    Those thing are getting worst first it was geocities now deviantart
  • Kwramm
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    didn't geocities fold and someone bought all those rights to all the super duper "valuable" geocities stuff? ...someone has a lot of animated gifs now for sale hehehe
  • Grimm_Wrecking
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    any information you provide, directly or indirectly to LinkedIn, including

    Depending on how you want to look at it indirectly could mean anything on your portfolio site should you link your portfolio from linkedIN.

    But thats "tin-foil hat" grasping.

    (this was a totally fail fake comment thought specifying that it was tin-foil hat grasping would clarify its not seriousness, but i suck at words so /fail)
  • notman
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    notman polycounter lvl 18
    You mean they may sell the information that I'm already openingly posting? Oh HELLZ NO!

    Seriously people, I think everyone has just started reading their user agreements. This stuff has been around forever. Enough with the tinfoil hats.
  • Andreas
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    notman wrote: »
    Enough with the tinfoil hats.

    This.
  • greevar
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    EarthQuake wrote: »
    I really fail to see why people getting their panties in a bunch about this stuff. You are giving away information to be publicly visible, if you have information you do not wish to share, do not put it on networking websites.

    Seriously, what the hell is the problem? This is just some nutter tin-foil hat stuff, you think linked-in is going to... Sell.... Your resume?.... To..... ??

    If their EULA said ANYTHING ELSE, they would just be asking for legal trouble.

    Information is a commodity. It's invaluable to advertisers and marketing to determine how to better target their ads to you and everyone else out there. Sites like LinkedIn aggregate untold amounts of information, but it's not really organized for easy reference if your goal is to blast targeted ads at people. If LinkedIn claims a license to your information (which by the way, they didn't ask, they just went ahead and did it. That's not exactly an "agreement"), then they have the power to organize this information and sell it to the highest bidder. They also have the power to use your information for their own advertising as well. "John Doe is a 10 year veteran programmer and he just got a job at Microsoft's Windows team, thanks to LinkedIn."

    It's not like this information is being blasted out into public to anyone who steps outside their door. It has to be sought out and asked for.
  • EarthQuake
    Yes, how dare they actually try to have a sustainable business model. It takes a special sort self entitled brat to complain so much about a free service you voluntarily signed up for. I mean if you're really worried that Linked-in is actually going to *gasp* try and make a profit, sure go ahead and delete your account, it just seems like a pretty irrational and unreasonable complaint to have. Its not like you're paying for the service, but hey, the less something costs the more people are going to complain.

    If linked-in is using information about me to tailor ads to me so they can keep operating, as a free service, more power to them. This is essentially what Google does anyway. To me this is a very fair trade off, I would prefer advertisers are paying for this service, and not me paying for it with my own money.

    If anyone is really worried so much about their personal information, you probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
    greevar wrote: »
    "John Doe is a 10 year veteran programmer and he just got a job at Microsoft's Windows team, thanks to LinkedIn."

    Please explain to me what is so terrible about this? If you don't want people to know that you've gotten a new job, you wouldn't be on Linked-in. But even then, this is simply conjecture, lets hold off on the pitch forks and torches until they *actually do this*.
    It's not like this information is being blasted out into public to anyone who steps outside their door. It has to be sought out and asked for.
    You're voluntarily entering in your information, you're voluntarily using the service. Any and all data you put into this system is a choice you've made. This isn't some malware that hacked your computer and is tracking your browsing history.
  • Ace-Angel
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    At least google has the decency of keeping tabs on porn I watch...I was suprised when my next few hits where from videos I had watched constantly for the past several weeks.
  • EarthQuake
    Oh also, Linked-In privacy policy, read it before going all "The man is oppressing us!"
    1. Uses of personal information

      We use the information you provide to:
      • Enable you to share your information and communicate with other Users, or provide your personal details to third parties offering combined services with LinkedIn;
      • Administer your account with us and customize the service we provide to you and other Users; and to
      • Send you service or promotional communications through email and notices on the LinkedIn website. You can control your messaging preferences here.
      • Connect you to opportunities by enabling other professionals to find you on LinkedIn.
      • Create and distribute advertising relevant to your or your network’s LinkedIn experience. If you share your interactions on LinkedIn, for example, when you recommend a product, follow a company, establish or update your profile, join a Group, etc., LinkedIn may use these actions to create social ads for your network on LinkedIn using your profile photo and name. You can control whether LinkedIn uses your name and picture in social ads here.
      We do not sell, rent, or otherwise provide personally identifiable information to third parties without your consent except where it is necessary to carry out your instructions (to process your payment information, for example) or as described in Section 2 of this Privacy Policy. Also, we may share information with affiliates (like LinkedIn Ireland, Limited) to provide the Services. We also provide you with the means to control whether or not your contact information is viewable to other Users through your profile.
      Please note that in order to fulfill your requests for paid services (e.g., LinkedIn Premium Services), we share your payment information with our payment processor
    http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=privacy_policy
  • Kwramm
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    notman wrote: »
    You mean they may sell the information that I'm already openingly posting? Oh HELLZ NO!

    in fact, they are not allowed to do this without your consent - hence they put a clause in the TOS to which you have to agree to use the service.
    Otherwise your webhost may just take your "openly posted" folio and sell it (in fact some shady free web hosts do have TOSes that just allow that)

    Anyone who uses your personal info or artwork, be it public or not, without your explicit consent has no right to do so unless you sign your rights away (which you partially do with linkedin). The rest is up to you how trustworthy you find the person to be to which you sign the rights to.
  • notman
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    What I'm saying is, Linkedin is more about contact and business information. If marketing companies want to use that information, they don't even need to pay LinkedIn. They could run a bot on there and retrieve all the info they need. So they are trying to make sure they have the rights to sell information that people are probably stealing already. And they would be selling that info, to pay for their costs, to provide you with a service that you're getting for free.
  • Kwramm
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    that's correct, although companies who gather persona data with bots against your explicit consent and sell or use it are criminals - it's called identity theft.

    Unfortunately it's quite tricky for the average consumer to find out how their personal data ends up at a certain place. But in europe some consumer groups actually tracked down data leaks and took it to court. (now this is NOT related to linkedin though - but some companies were actually of a similar calibre as linkedin)
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