Babydoll from Suckerpunch

Rodan4

Hello all,

I'm really looking forward to the new Suckerpunch film coming out so decided to pass the time making my own version of Babydoll from the film. I thought I would post on here for any comments or critiques to help me improve this model. I think the high poly is just about done and have started with some texturing work before building the low play and baking.

I hope to get this rigged and animated and working in the Unreal engine.




Any comments which would help me to improve would be greatly welcome.

Thanks for looking.

ToxiQ

Looks like a good start But you should improve the eye area, looks kinda strange now.



EDIT:
just work a litte more on the face and you'll be good

DDuckworth

Overall she seems a little short and stubby, but stout is somewhat a good thing for such a fighter, i'd like to see some closeups on the gun if you have it nice and detailed, can't wait to see her textured!

Zelenkov

this is superb! only thing is what DDuckworth said....a little short. But other than that really cool!

c0ldhands

nothing wrong with short and stubby women, amirite? I only feel that she would need more cheeks, like in face cheeks not other cheeks.

BeserK

Head looks a little big, looking a bit like a kid, arms may be a little short too, looking great though!

Rodan4

Thanks for the comments to all who responded. In regards to the proportions of the head, I was going for a young looking girl for the character as babydoll is 20 years of age in the film. Perhaps this hasn't come worked too well and I will then need to adjust the head, but I'll wait to see what people think again.

I worked a bit further on the head and fleshed out the cheeks a bit more as mentioned. I also started on the skin textures inside zbrush. With a little more work hopefully it will come out looking decent.

Here is where I am at;



Also as requested here is the colt 1911 that she has. Using images from the 'art of the film' book I have the detailed designs which will be added onto the sides of the gun when I come to texture it. It doesn't look like these details are engraved like the ones on the sword so I will probably do this on the spec map.



Thanks again for looking.

Mark Dygert

2 words...

FUCK

and

YEAH!

Purplepaint

Mark Dygert wrote: »

2 words...

FUCK

and

YEAH!

This

DiegoTeran

Amazing work man. Can't wait to see it complete

DiegoTeran

Can u post up the wireframe please

chrisradsby

Looks great so far man, I kinda feel like the arms are too short though? Like they would need to be a tad longer, not a lot but a little? I might be way off witht his though.

JGcount

She is already hot, so now its just about adding layers to the cake of awesome. GJ

Apophis3d

+1 agree with above posts shes looking very tasty

Kitteh

I think you made her nose too sharp.

samcole

Looking good so far, check the color of her eyes though, in the reference pic above it seems her eyes are a darker color then what you started to texture with. Unless the color you chose was just a place holder for now.

Lord McMutton

Looking good. I think the face could stand to be a bit smaller at the moment, though. It seems as though it's taking too much space on her head.

haikai

As far as likeness to the real actress goes it could use some more tweaking, but it looks good already as a general female head model. :thumbup:

Dylan Brady

+1 agree with mr. bananna, Although it might just be the hair thats throwing us off, but You might take another look at the head proportions.
relative to eachother the look perfect, but relative to the headsize it looks off.

Id suckerpunch that if you know what Im saying.
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Rodan4

Hi all,

I have baked out all of the maps for my babydoll character and have been working on the textures. This is where I am at presently as seen below with a viewport grab from 3dsMax using the Xoliul shader. This is only the normals and diffuse, so no specualr on there yet. Ignore the hands, xnormal wouldn't pick up the polypaint from my highpoly so will have to do these in photoshop. The hair obvioulsy hasn't been started yet, which I am not looking forward to. Still have a way to go so any comments will be helpful.



Thanks for looking

jarrede

dude thats looking sweet! My only crit would be her eyes look a bit "serious" but if it's default expressionless face then it's all good.

Ihazard

that's awesome, can't wait to see this one finished up can we see some flats?

bloodmoon

Awesome stuff. Keep up the good work.

Really liking where this is going. ^_^

Rodan4

I have done a bit more of my babydoll character. Just have the sword and gun to finish, which are not shown in the image. After these bits are finished I need to pose her and then do some presentation shots. Presentation isn't my strongest point so if anyone has any advice or ideas it would be good to hear from you. The specular maps may need adjusting before presenting because I think the specular on the arms is a bit too high. Also I'm not too sure about the hair, I think it needs a bit more work to get a bit of variation in there.



The image is a viewport grab from Max using the Xoliulshader.

Thanks for looking

Cooljay

Like others have been saying. Eyes are way too big, and cheeks could be more plump.

Rodan4

It's taken a while but I have finally finished my Babydoll character.

After finishing the textures I rigged and posed the character and used marmoset for the renders. I still want to do a couple more poses and renders before calling this done, but am looking for any more pointers on the character before doing so.

This is the first time I have used marmoset to render so any pointers in this area would also be welcome.



Thanks for looking, and thankyou to all who commented throughout this work.

Cordell Felix

Why the long face?
Just kidding, She looks awesome man! very good detailing and texturing!
It looks like there is no spec at all, it almost looks like its in unlit mode

r_fletch_r

Costume and figure looks great, the face really isnt working though.

DDuckworth

In marmoset on your materials you have to manually turn on specularity in the little box (use specularity) or something like that, it will help the render out a ton

Rodan4

Thanks for the posts.
The specularity is actually turned on and is present, but obviously not enough. I think it doesn't show up very well/at all due to the lighting. I chose to try and use blue/cold lighting to match part of the movie, but this has had an impact on the specularity. I'll adjust this and repost up another picture when I have chaged the values.

Thanks

Raider

something about the face i can't quite put my finger on seems off, and it must just be me but her knee joint seems kinda high, but again could just be me.

dogzer

Her face looks kind of sad, doesn't it? But I love the quality of this model! Really pro stuff!

Tenchi

Yeh, sad face, she needs to look fierce! Sweet model though

System

Modelling and textures are quality and she looks alive, nice work!

kunglao

Looking good!
Like others have posted, a little more attention to the face and Specular.
Also Marmoset v1.03 update has now sorted Alpha issues.Give that hair some alpha love

bbob

Cool, the lightning looks a bit flat though..

mLichy

Yeah, I agree the eyes are too big. Also her pose right now makes her seem bored. Otherwise she looks hot!

Rodan4

Another update of my Babydoll model. After the comments posted I have made the eyes smaller and adjusted the mouth a bit, though mainly I have adjusted the specular maps and values so hopefully the spec now shows up better and enhances the model. I also changes the lighting a bit so it is a bit brighter. I dont think the base was adding much so I got rid of it and put some renders on a presentation sheet.

Hopefully these changes have improved the model, but if anything has anything else to say please feel free.





Bigger image
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/701/babydollpresentationbig.jpg


Thanks

achillesian

maybe this was addressed in the thread and I didn't read it, but is the skin tone of her face and chest supposed to be different from all her other skin?

timwiese

A few things I've noticed
- It looks like the space between the bottom of her nose and her lips is too long, also her forehead is a bit too small. I think if you lower the eyes and nose just a tad it might come closer to resembling her.
- Her cheeks don't look puffy enough.
- Her brow line seems a little too low on the insides. and the shape of her eyebrows is more of a soft curve.

REKLAS

Heck yeah, I love Sucker Punch!

Really nice work here, but as everyone else has said, the face could definitely use some work. As a huge fan of Sucker Punch I would hate for this to turn out awesome but have a jacked face, so I did a paintover that will hopefully assist you in making it closer to how she actually looks. It's not perfect but hopefully it's helpful. I included notes of all the things that would help her look more like Babydoll/Emily Browning.

Please don't call this done yet, a few tweaks and it could be perfect and make for a 10x better piece.



...One note I forgot to put on there: Eyes less white. (They make her look really fake, make them grayish)



Emily Browning

Drakon

Liking the improvements to the face, but still needs a little more to go. Reklas made a good list.

Illusive

def listen to reklas. atm it looks way too manly in the face.
everything else looks top notch though keep up the good work

gauss

Yeah reklas has the best overall list but I think the key is that the distance between the eyes and mouth are too long, making the face too long/mannish. Otherwise the detailing is very strong, keep going--if you nail the likeness this will be a very enviable portfolio piece. Don't give up without getting that.

Rodan4

First of all, thanks to REKLAS for taking the time to do the paintover and list of improvements for the model, really appreciate it. Also thanks to everyone else who posted.

I spent today making the improvements mentioned. I don't think i'm going to be able to get 100% likeness, but I feel that the changes I have made have definitely made a big improvement to the model.



Let me know if you think I have gone too far or not far enough. If you want me to post up any more images or different views let me know.

Thanks

Drakon

Already a much better version, also try to remove the makeup on her bottom eyelids, i think that is a quick fix that will make her resemble even more.

Rodan4

Thanks to everyone who helped me through this piece of work. Here are the final images incase anyone is interested. I couldn't quite figue out the lighting inside marmoset so perhaps this aspect could be better, or perhaps my specular map could be improved. Maybe in a couple of weeks, coming back to this with fresh eyes might help me improve it again.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8250/babydollbeauty.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1581/babydollpresentation.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3018/babydollconstruction.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4586/babydolltexture.jpg


Thanks for looking

Alberto Rdrgz

Pull back a on the make up make it more softer, and shrink some of her features a bit more like her lips and eyes. and i think you're all set!!:)


EDIT: just noticed, her arms are looking lifeless; really really pale.

ALSO, check this out http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81562

Bibendum

You've got a LOT of wasted geometry in there, what's the triangle count on your model?

r_fletch_r

Moving the eyes down further and scraping off the heavy blusher and eyeliner seems to help. Also removing the dark shadows pretties it up.
Somewhat scarey but it demonstrates the point


I think the idea of blusher is to add volume to the cheek bones at the moment it covering most of her face making her skin look ruddy.

Also her eye makeup doesnt surround her entire eye. it seems to be focused on excentuating the size of her eyelashes and darkening the upper lid, your shadow seems to extend up to the brow.

[edit] didnt see your last post, no point posting this if your done [/edit]

BeatKitano

r_fletch_r wrote: »

[edit] didnt see your last post, no point posting this if your done [/edit]

I don't want to be a pain but your suggestions are a great improvement and the model would benefit greatly from it.