Darth Revan - image heavy.
ngon master
i just finished this guy up today (or finished by my standards anyway). i'm certainly open to criticism, it'll help me do better on my next piece!
textures are 2048. i have: diffuse + alpha, specular + gloss (in alpha channel),normals, masks (occlusion + reflection).
when i recompile the textures i'll be putting the gloss, occlusion, reflection and alpha all into one texture file.
model is 13k triangles. it contains quite a few hoops, and the robes are double sided. i could probably bring the count down. but i had aimed for 15k with more detail, but didn't need it in the end.
edit: i had placed the images side by side (2 per row). but for some reason it's displaying them all vertically... sad panda =[
textures are 2048. i have: diffuse + alpha, specular + gloss (in alpha channel),normals, masks (occlusion + reflection).
when i recompile the textures i'll be putting the gloss, occlusion, reflection and alpha all into one texture file.
model is 13k triangles. it contains quite a few hoops, and the robes are double sided. i could probably bring the count down. but i had aimed for 15k with more detail, but didn't need it in the end.
edit: i had placed the images side by side (2 per row). but for some reason it's displaying them all vertically... sad panda =[
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Aside from that, all I have are ideas where you could lessen tri count if you so chose, but at 13k I wouldn't worry too much, especially since it's a boss character. You could lessen tris in the hoops and fingers specifically by collapsing inside edges. The fingers you can get away with having 3 loops on the top where the knuckle is and then collapse it down into one loop for the inside of the knuckle. Same thing for the hoops, just collapse the inside , it won't mess with your silhouette much, and unless you take a microscope to the character, you shouldn't notice the drop in tris.
Awesome stuff.
Good work so far man
The clouds aren't helping either, and the red lights on the pedestal are attracting too much attention in my opinion (but mostly cause the rest is so dark).
Darth Revan is a girl! . . . . or at least she was when I played KOTOR. ;P
Good job. The beauty render is being hurt by the clouds filter and I think you need a much stronger rim light if you are going to display on a black background. And yes, the tri count sounds a little excess for the level of detail in a character.
@Super Happy Cow
I notice that detail when it is well done, and I appreciate it. I never find it too busy if the stitching and buttons would actually be there in real life. If you are wrapping someone in belts like Final Fantasy seems fond of, yeah, it would get busy and absurd quick, but not for real or practical garments.
only thing i could say is that u might to get it lower by taking out some of the robe detail for sure but thats optional if its just a personal work
edit: it was Josh Singh. might be worth asking him if he still has any old renders. the model was pimp.
here's the problem i'm having with lighting at the moment. i can:
make the background ligher - this makes the character too dark by contrast.
make the lighting more intense - this makes the robes read more as gray, than black.
make the materials themselves lighter - again, this makes the robes read more as gray than black.
i hate black materials =[
As is, it does lose a little of the dark Sith drama on a lighter background and the robes are looking more gray.
I think a light blue rim light would set everything off nicely.
One thing i would change is the pedistal, it looks kinda crap next to your character. even if it was less blocky it would be nicer.
Also the cloth a bit of manual tweaking of his cloth areas would really help the presentation. when you see his flowing cloak you kind of expect the rest of his garments to be doing the same thing.
i'll revisit the textures next week hopefully. i'm just trying not to spend too much time tinkering. i've fallen into that hole before, tinkering with something for way too long when i should just call it done and move on to something else.
i can repose the cloth no problem, i added bones so it can move fairly freely anyway. so i'll have a crack at that. and as long as you guys think the lighting in the last shot is ok, i'll redo the beauty shots with whatever tweaks i make.
thanks!
i think i've overdone the clouds again. but having the model alone on a pedestal just feels... boring :P
1) Increase the intensity of the orange glow or give it some kind of hot spot. It currently is all one shade of orange, with some bloom but feels a bit unnatural because of the even shade. I think the variation with a hot spot will help. The extra bloom might also help with the aliasing (like on the lightsabre)
Otherwise, I agree with the the general sentiment that you have a good piece here that just needs some TLC in a couple areas. Keep it up.
2) The tatters on the cloth feel a bit unnatural. The damage feels very uniform and the lack of normal map thickness on the edges is also making it appear paper thin. Also, I would adjust the alpha to avoid the pixeleated edges/dots that you're getting.
hopefully these are somewhat more presentable for you all =]
-you could probably crop the polygons a bit, save texture overdraw.
-you've got some floaty spots.
-the black outlining there makes it feel very cartoony, while the rest of the model isn't
the problem i'm having is that 3dsmax doesn't like real time alpha... at all. let's hope 2012 is a bit better :P
My one crit would be the textures lack some fine detail on the robes. otherwise looks great!