Jungle Scene
Hey everybody! Starting up a new piece, and here's what i have in mind:
This is the main insparation for the skull:
from on of these little guys:
Some other stuff for the trees:
This is the main insparation for the skull:
from on of these little guys:
Some other stuff for the trees:
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I like the sense of light and shadow you have in your pieces.
I sort of prefer the second to last tree over the last one as it's trunk shape is a bit more natural looking rather than a super stylized "S" curve. Both are great though.
Are these concepts for a real time 3d environment?
@Ben Apuna: Thanks! I plan on creating both trees, starting with the last one. These are concepts for a realtime environment.
@SasoChicken: Thanks! I'm hoping to try preserve the hand-painted look in the textures. Everything I've done previously has been more photo-based textures, and I want to try break away from that with this one.
Quick Update:
Modeled one of the trees in 3Ds max. The leaves and vines are not finalized, they are more quick place holders, but I'm thinking of doing a mix of mesh and planes.
The tree canopy could possibly use a little more variation in it's silhouette as it's looking a little flat topped right now from some angles.
I'm in agreement with tristamus, the foliage could use some shading.
Depending on what style you are going for and the engine you plan to show your work in you might be able to use edited vertex normals and/or vertex colors to help give volume to the foliage. In case you didn't already see or know about it check out the Tree making fast technique? thread or the relevant section on the wiki.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of your scene turns out. Keep it up!
Scale is incredibly important for vegetation.
And on the skull:
Here is the sculpt (done before the tweak):
I've got some basic lighting in here. Still quite a few unfinished elements and missing textures.
Let me know what you guys think. Go nuts!
good start tho, i guess
I agree, I like the painted textures but they defiantly need some refinement. I think the biggest issues for me are the crazy lines on the tree, the ground(white?) and the skull. Go play or look at wow images and see how they paint tree textures. The skull isn't in a good spot I cant tell what it is and it seems like that is the focus of the scene. Maybe rotate/move it so I can see some teeth? I don't know. I like the direction of this project it just needs a bit more love and care.
i like your layout, and hand painted textures look pretty cool.
try render out an AO pass for all the props would help
also try adding more finer details into the skull/bones, check out this pic
more colour variations, browns and yellows. Add some more dirt and scratches.
i cant wait to see it finished !!
good luck
@letronrael: totally agree on the colors... I'll tighten it up. I'll bring out the skull some more too.. I think the lighting is killing the textures as well, so I'll attack it from both ends. Ground hasn't been touched at all yet, so I should have that updated next post.
@toxic: Should I tone down the crazy lines? Maybe bring the color tones a little closer together? Yeah, the skull's not really creating the effect I was looking for... like you said, I'll try rotating it around and maybe thinning out that grass.
@Mistry: Thanks for the ref! I'll give that a shot and include an AO.
@ayoub44: Actually, I'm rendering out of max for the time being. I'd like to export it as a whole once I get the layout set in stone. When its all said and done I'd like a nice render still out of max as well as a real-time shot out of UDK.
Sarankan: thanks for the encouragement.
Love the texturing and style you got going though!
Some exotic insects and bugs would look nice just hovering around doing there business!
In the meantime, I took the assets that are kinda out of sync and threw them together:
I liked the idea of the bugs, so I added some fireflies...
i love the lighting setup you have in the second render, love it.
i hope you use the same setup in your final render, with the flyer flies and rim lights
the only thing i would suggest about the rendering is to increase the radius of the orange light. so that its picks up more of the edges
Also i'm not 100% if you've done this already, but add a colour spec map.
Also if you can post you normals and diffuse texture maps i wanna make a few tweaks
Either you need to work more detail into the texture, or spend more time maximizing your uv layout.
Good work so far, bring that into the scene!
The ground is tileable:
http://www.kevinjohnstone.com/Help/Modular%20Environment%20Design.rar
Here is a quick test render... the skull and ribs are in the process of being redone to fix the scene.
Postgrad is going really well. I've really been looking forward to this current semester since there is more time to work on your own stuff and less unrelated assigned projects.
is this a style that you always wanted to do or something you found in like a concept art ?
btw i notice a small problem w/ your leafs, they need to by bent/ folded alot more. right now there very flat poly panels. check out my tree i did ( its a naughty dog art test), the leafs have much more of a curved full. just add a few geo/lines in ur mesh and start bending !
This is a texturing style that I am experamenting with... its been a lot of fun and I've been wanting to try something different to break away from my norm.
Thank you; I will definately try bending out the leaves.
its cool ur trying a different texturing style, i wish i did that in college
btw when do u plan on finishing this scene ? i hope by the end of the month !
I think your scene is coming along really well (really like the composition), but even given a stylized look, I think your textures are way too saturated, and it comes off as making up for a lack of subtlety and detail. The green is so overpowering, that it's hard to see that you actually have a lot of different shades. Everything is so bright and lit up that it's going to make it really hard to successfully light the scene - so I would tone it down just a tad.
My second nitpick would be the lighting itself - I'm sure it isn't done, but in your latest lighting update (with the green floating light-sparkles) there is a hint of yellow coming from the right, and I think using more of this would make the scene far stronger; perhaps a fire inside the skull, or little torches around giving an extra level of detail, color, and interest. I really feel like you're very close to making this a vibrant and interesting scene, but it needs to be desaturated a bit, with a stronger focus on lighting sources to bring the saturation back in.
Just my two cents, hope it helps - keep it up!
about what Razgriz mentioned about the over saturation...
if you do find that your over all rendered scene is too saturation, since your rendering this in max you can just use a Zdepth pass to lower the over all saturation. Also render out objectIDs and desaturation on the diffuse pass
i think it was one of Paul Neale's saying " Fix it in POST ! " haha
Thank you both. I will be focusing on the the scene rather than the elements this week. I think I'm going to try follow the original concept more closely since the scene as a whole hasn't been working out the way it is currently heading.
Anyone with suggestions?
are you rendering an AO pass on this ?
also in your z depth pass boost the saturation levels in the foreground, you'll get more contrast in the foreground.
also w/ your object Ids add some colour variation to the green plants on the ground, close the tree add some yellows .
1 - The god rays are cool, but I dont think that is the best spot for them. I think you are lost a nice frame in your midground (the dark foliage of the trees)that bordered your background (the lit/hazy area). I would add those rays to the background instead. You kind of muddied up the values of the scene by putting them in the mid-ground.
2 - A nice foreground object that you allow to run off the screen. Maybe it could be your skull (which feels a tad bit squeezed into the shot) or you could make a cool rock with some growth on it. Just watch your values. Make it darker then your midground so it doesnt mess with the sense of scale.
Nice job overall though! Keep up the good work!
Also, I do plan to take this into UDK... hopefully sooner than later.
Here is my final image:
Set pieces:
Tree breadowns: