apparently the 3gb/s SATA controllers are pretty fucked, and intel are going to be ordering recalls pretty soon. anyone who's purchased a sandybridge motherboard might want to keep tabs on their vendor/manufacturer for details on how/where to get your new one.
Just read about this. Not sure if I should be concerned or not, think I will call my parts supplier tomorrow.
I literally just built an i7 SB rig a couple weeks ago, with a P67 board. The impression I'm getting from the articles is that it may be affecting 'off the shelf' systems rather than home builds, but I haven't done much research so I could be wrong.
Thanks for the heads up though, I'll keep an eye out for recalls.
I'm hoping this is a quick turn around and they start releasing fixed versions soon! I plan on ordering one for the new rig I'm going to attempt to build. My first time so it's going to be a learning experience!
Sucks for anyone this affects though, I would hate to have to dismantle my system to send it in for a replacement.
At least they are being upfront about it and not shady.
This is precisely why you should buy PC hardware 3 years after it is "brand new hot stuff"
LOL Thats ridiculous. I can see waiting a year, but three years is EOL for many. You will find upgrading those systems even more a pain in the ass as the manufacturers will be cutting back on compatible equipment.
Would you use that same theory on your graphics card as well?
Well my rig is 3 years old - I havn't needed to upgrade because consoles kept game requirements level. But my PC really creaks under heavy max/photoshop usage.
Basically yes it means I need a new mobo for new ram and CPU, but RAM and graphics cards are so cheap nowadays it's really not much of an issue. I'm looking at a solid upgrade that will last me another two years at least for <£500.
edit: Wait I missread you. Yeah 3 years is bad. It's long enough that you will pay a premium finding parts for your obsolete motherboard and get less preformance than cheap, mid range 'new' hardware.
Well my rig is 3 years old - I havn't needed to upgrade because consoles kept game requirements level. But my PC really creaks under heavy max/photoshop usage.
Basically yes it means I need a new mobo for new ram and CPU, but RAM and graphics cards are so cheap nowadays it's really not much of an issue. I'm looking at a solid upgrade that will last me another two years at least for <£500.
edit: Wait I missread you. Yeah 3 years is bad. It's long enough that you will pay a premium finding parts for your obsolete motherboard and get less preformance than cheap, mid range 'new' hardware.
There is a difference between a 3 year old rig, and buying parts that are 3 years old.
3 years is completely ridiculous. Like oxynary said, 1 year is understandable. But I usually buy parts that are 4-6 months old. GPUs however aren't THAT cheap. It depends what you buy. If you have a GTX 250, then yeah. But look at the GTX 580. Also, *good* RAM is still not cheap.
what do you consider *good*? I grabbed 8gb of ddr3 1600 ram (G.Skill Ripjaw brand) with 9-9-9-24 timing for $100 a few weeks ago which seems good and cheap to me.
what do you consider *good*? I grabbed 8gb of ddr3 1600 ram (G.Skill Ripjaw brand) with 9-9-9-24 timing for $100 a few weeks ago which seems good and cheap to me.
You'll be a thousand times more likely to notice the lack of ram rather than the speed of ram.
Timings are often more important if you're into overclocking and such, buying the most expensive ram there is can be quite a waste though.
Wait I misread you. Yeah 3 years is bad. It's long enough that you will pay a premium finding parts for your obsolete motherboard and get less performance than cheap, mid range 'new' hardware.
Just went through this. It was better to buy a new mobo, CPU and ram than to replace my motherboard ($240 to replace vs $450 for new current bits).
hehe, i just got my system up and running last friday.
Looks like i'm in the mess. YAY! I am happy that intel is taking the blame, unlike nvidia who shit the bed and had to be sued in a class action lawsuit for their shitty 200M series video cards (i'm in canada and couldn't join the lawsuit so i had to pay for the repairs myself). Ugh.
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
its not really a big deal. it may cause degrading of the sata 3GB ports only on some motherboards if the ports are used heavily. i built my system on the weekend and just plugged the hard drives and dvd drive into the 6GB ports instead. once the dust has settled and intel ship out the fixed chipset you'll get the motherboard replaced because your under warranty.
Experts say this type of technology doubles every two years. The best thing to do would be wait 2, anything after that is basically waiting for prices to drop further.
There are people who jump on new technology (early adopters), then there are people who wait for the others to try it (early majority), evaluate it (late majority), and then use it. Then there's the laggers... lol
people are making a too bigger deal out of this. an update from intel says that only 5% of all the 67 chipsets were affected, that means 95% of motherboards are completely unaffected. i have x4 6GB sata ports so i don't even have to use the affected 3GB sata ports.
all i can say is i'm enjoying my i7 2600k, 16GB ddr3 ram, gtx560. i love it, going to go play black ops while other people panic for no reason
Wasn't your recent rig not built around 3 year old versions of equipment?
Edit: You know what you three year guys need to do that makes sense, is say. Technology that has 3 years worth of revision.
Still unnecessary and not always cheaper. But it will give you the most current version of that tech thats been improved or fixed over time.
Yea I'm not hard and fast about the 3 year rule, I just don't buy the latest thing to plop off the assembly line. I think we covered that in the "check out my new system" thread.
Last year I spent $700 on a PC using 2/3year old gear, and I can play pretty much every new game on highest settings. I dont have time/energy/money to build the "UGM" every year - its just totally not needed.
Yea I'm not hard and fast about the 3 year rule, I just don't buy the latest thing to plop off the assembly line. I think we covered that in the "check out my new system" thread.
Which one? Each person seems to start one.. Hence my own thread about having master threads for such and the recommendation then brought up about having a hardware section on the forum. Hint Hint.
just finished my new setup using sandybridge... it's so damned fast it's not even funny. i'm using all the 6bg/s SATA inputs, don't need any of the 3gb/s ones.
Which one? Each person seems to start one.. Hence my own thread about having master threads for such and the recommendation then brought up about having a hardware section on the forum. Hint Hint.
I think we can all agree that this might just be something nice to have (a hardware section). I don't think one single thread for everyone's questions would work out well though. If I were building a new rig, I'd want people to read my thread and answer my questions specifically, as opposed to getting ignored, because of the dude who posts 5mins after me, and decides to spend more money on a bigger more badass rig.
..yeah, I'll take my chances for now. Newegg is going to ship us new boards when they arrive, so I'll just swap it out then. I don't think the board is going to be failing in the next 3 months...
..yeah, I'll take my chances for now. Newegg is going to ship us new boards when they arrive, so I'll just swap it out then. I don't think the board is going to be failing in the next 3 months...
Agreed. Still kinda lame though. First time building a custom rig and I bought an i7 sandy bridge the day before this came out.
Polyhertz - Yeah, they sent out an email to everyone who recently purchased a sandy bridge from them. It included a video with how to workaround the issue, and also stated that they will replace your sandy bridge with the fixed versions, no questions asked.
Polyhertz - Yeah, they sent out an email to everyone who recently purchased a sandy bridge from them. It included a video with how to workaround the issue, and also stated that they will replace your sandy bridge with the fixed versions, no questions asked.
Orly?
Me thinks many a motherboard will show up with many a chipset heatsinks and fans missing.
I'm glad this will be handled, motherboards changed etc. I'm fine using the 6Gb/s ports in the meantime, and then change my mobo when the fixed versions are available.
It would be nice if my retailer/mobo vendor would sent the mobo before my broken has arrived to them. This way I would avoid unnecessary downtime between.
I wouldn't take this as a prime example why "it is good to wait". Hardware changes constantly, and SB is the best one can get now. Even considering the price, since old C2Q based systems are more expensive now and are way slower.
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I literally just built an i7 SB rig a couple weeks ago, with a P67 board. The impression I'm getting from the articles is that it may be affecting 'off the shelf' systems rather than home builds, but I haven't done much research so I could be wrong.
Thanks for the heads up though, I'll keep an eye out for recalls.
Sucks for anyone this affects though, I would hate to have to dismantle my system to send it in for a replacement.
At least they are being upfront about it and not shady.
You said it, man.
LOL Thats ridiculous. I can see waiting a year, but three years is EOL for many. You will find upgrading those systems even more a pain in the ass as the manufacturers will be cutting back on compatible equipment.
Would you use that same theory on your graphics card as well?
Perfect example is DDR2 ram prices to DDR3.
Basically yes it means I need a new mobo for new ram and CPU, but RAM and graphics cards are so cheap nowadays it's really not much of an issue. I'm looking at a solid upgrade that will last me another two years at least for <£500.
edit: Wait I missread you. Yeah 3 years is bad. It's long enough that you will pay a premium finding parts for your obsolete motherboard and get less preformance than cheap, mid range 'new' hardware.
There is a difference between a 3 year old rig, and buying parts that are 3 years old.
3 years is completely ridiculous. Like oxynary said, 1 year is understandable. But I usually buy parts that are 4-6 months old. GPUs however aren't THAT cheap. It depends what you buy. If you have a GTX 250, then yeah. But look at the GTX 580. Also, *good* RAM is still not cheap.
what do you consider *good*? I grabbed 8gb of ddr3 1600 ram (G.Skill Ripjaw brand) with 9-9-9-24 timing for $100 a few weeks ago which seems good and cheap to me.
http://kotaku.com/5747938/intel-identifies-sandy-bridges-flaw-stops-some-production-kicks-off-recall
You'll be a thousand times more likely to notice the lack of ram rather than the speed of ram.
Timings are often more important if you're into overclocking and such, buying the most expensive ram there is can be quite a waste though.
Looks like i'm in the mess. YAY! I am happy that intel is taking the blame, unlike nvidia who shit the bed and had to be sued in a class action lawsuit for their shitty 200M series video cards (i'm in canada and couldn't join the lawsuit so i had to pay for the repairs myself). Ugh.
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
people are over reacting
I buy quality parts, which means, almost never buying whatever just came out.
Wasn't your recent rig not built around 3 year old versions of equipment?
Edit: You know what you three year guys need to do that makes sense, is say. Technology that has 3 years worth of revision.
Still unnecessary and not always cheaper. But it will give you the most current version of that tech thats been improved or fixed over time.
There are people who jump on new technology (early adopters), then there are people who wait for the others to try it (early majority), evaluate it (late majority), and then use it. Then there's the laggers... lol
all i can say is i'm enjoying my i7 2600k, 16GB ddr3 ram, gtx560. i love it, going to go play black ops while other people panic for no reason
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130572
Which one? Each person seems to start one.. Hence my own thread about having master threads for such and the recommendation then brought up about having a hardware section on the forum. Hint Hint.
managed to overclock it to 4.8ghz lol...
I think we can all agree that this might just be something nice to have (a hardware section). I don't think one single thread for everyone's questions would work out well though. If I were building a new rig, I'd want people to read my thread and answer my questions specifically, as opposed to getting ignored, because of the dude who posts 5mins after me, and decides to spend more money on a bigger more badass rig.
..yeah, I'll take my chances for now. Newegg is going to ship us new boards when they arrive, so I'll just swap it out then. I don't think the board is going to be failing in the next 3 months...
Agreed. Still kinda lame though. First time building a custom rig and I bought an i7 sandy bridge the day before this came out.
Has newegg actually said how they're going to handle it when the replacement boards become available?
Orly?
Me thinks many a motherboard will show up with many a chipset heatsinks and fans missing.
It would be nice if my retailer/mobo vendor would sent the mobo before my broken has arrived to them. This way I would avoid unnecessary downtime between.
I wouldn't take this as a prime example why "it is good to wait". Hardware changes constantly, and SB is the best one can get now. Even considering the price, since old C2Q based systems are more expensive now and are way slower.