Right then, have it your way. No jokes about dead people because it might offend the dead people or relatives of the dead people browsing polycount at this very instant. I will no longer have this sense of humor to comply with your view of the world and everyone should be the same and not be different.
You use the word hypocrite, fine. Don't laugh at anything ever again, because somewhere on the planet someone will be offended.
I thought the ad was kind of funny in a tasteless and immature sort of way, but I made the pictures so people would think about what is being made fun of.
I suspect a lot of people who are not from the US are not really that familiar with the war. I read a lot of comments saying they are making fun of the Battlefield series (which they clearly are, with the final image at least), but they are also making fun of dropping napalm on Vietnamese people.
The reason I think Vietnam isn't actually that funny isn't because people died, but because it was huge mistake. One we haven't seemed to have learned from.
Seriously, I thought the pictures were pretty funny considering what they're trying to make a point of. The whole point being that it's pretty tasteless and being thrown over the top.
If anything, those images work as a marketing ploy. Since they can be deemed as "insensitive", it causes people to talk about the game, and well, any publicity is good publicity. Its not unlike the No Russian level for MW2 or that "Your Mom will Hate this Game" commercial for Dead Space 2.
One can even go so far and use it as a metaphor for how the gaming industry today makes light of tragedies, as it can be seen as a clear satire of many other war-bases videos games.
I like how in this game the racist undertones of most modern FPS games are made explicit, with the Vietcong replaced by sub-human goblins. It really gets to the root of why some people enjoy shooter games.
I imagine the Swedes who made this game live in a mono-culture in which they feel "racism" is some fuzzy abstract concept that doesn't have much to do with them, so I don't really blame them for making this. I think people who live and work around other cultures have less of an excuse.
In this first Magicka expansion, he sees the concept of wizards in Vietnam as inherently interesting -- being a good vehicle for comedy is a nice bonus. "Obviously, we have to focus purely on the fun aspects of the Vietnam War: rock music and cool explosions," Pilestedt assured. "The actual Vietnam War was a horrible war," so we probably shouldn't expect to see many mages writing home to grandma about the front line.
I got the game a couple days after release, and encountered zero bugs. Had a blast with it so far, though I haven't had much chance to play. It's funny that it feels more like a fighting game than a dungeon crawl. Definitely unique. The Vietnam thing is hilarious.
I like how in this game the racist undertones of most modern FPS games are made explicit, with the Vietcong replaced by sub-human goblins. It really gets to the root of why some people enjoy shooter games.
I imagine the Swedes who made this game live in a mono-culture in which they feel "racism" is some fuzzy abstract concept that doesn't have much to do with them, so I don't really blame them for making this. I think people who live and work around other cultures have less of an excuse.
Hah, sweden is anything but monocultured.
But the important thing to remember here is that it is a parody on battlefield and only that.
Murder and war is always a tragedy yet we recreate scenarios of it in just about all games, but we seperate reality from it.
I like how in this game the racist undertones of most modern FPS games are made explicit, with the Vietcong replaced by sub-human goblins. It really gets to the root of why some people enjoy shooter games.
I imagine the Swedes who made this game live in a mono-culture in which they feel "racism" is some fuzzy abstract concept that doesn't have much to do with them, so I don't really blame them for making this. I think people who live and work around other cultures have less of an excuse.
You really have no idea of how wrong you are about that :P Racism is prevalent in Scandinavia. Sweden especially has been picked out as one of the worse places for it.
So I don't think it's about them not knowing what racism is, I think it's about them choosing not to mix race into this at all, they simply don't think so far ahead as to be pc about absolutely everything, heck maybe they believe the world is mature enough to realize nothing is so sacred it can't be humouring.
People looking for racism will find it anywhere they want to. People offering a over the top reaction to racism or just looking for it everywhere to cry and be offended is just as big a problem as people being racist, both parties keep it alive with their constant bickering.
I've had racist remarks thrown at me ever since I was a kid, it stopped once I realized that if I defended myself, I was actually supporting the idea that I was somehow a different race from others.
And seriously are you suggesting that people like shooters because they get to shoot foreign people?
You're completely wrong, people like shooters because they get to shoot people
You gotta get out of there. I hear they also eat strangers that fall into their crudely made traps.
If the toothless locals don't gum you to death, then the next time the powers that be try to shake their little etch-a-sketch this is going to get ya.
I hear you can get 30-40 miles outside of town if you drive with your lights off in the dead of night! The next crescent moon is coming up, now is your chance!
I've been working with Magicka since 2009. Done most of the characters and particle effects. Also done some levels, props, textures and various art assets.
It has been a lot of hard work and it's finally paying off. I've learnt quite a lot during this period and I'm still learning. Personally I didn't expect Magicka would turn out so popular. (I did not expect it would be brought up on the front page of PC either ) I get happy when people enjoy something that I've been a part of developing.
A major reason why I've been able to do this is because of you guys here at Polycount! Always teaching me something new.
This game is sooo cool so far! it gets quite hard really fast (died like 4 times already). It does get a bit buggy every now and then (on the space ship that is being attacked by pirate space ships), but the graphics of the magicks are sweet and the endless variability is great!
i really like casting the "haste" combination as an AOE spell, it deals quite a bit of damage.
I like how in this game the racist undertones of most modern FPS games are made explicit, with the Vietcong replaced by sub-human goblins. It really gets to the root of why some people enjoy shooter games
Yep. You're right.
They should totally replace those goblins with realistic looking vietnamese people so we can blow them to bits instead. Genius!
hey dfacto, i was in fact just now spamming thunder . Didn't have a good indoors-alternative yet. I've been playing with Yazora, was fun .
If you have trouble with certain enemies, try use a diffirent spell. Cold works well if you're surrounded. Also don't forget to use diffirent shields, barriers, auras etc.
If you have trouble with certain enemies, try use a diffirent spell. Cold works well if you're surrounded. Also don't forget to use diffirent shields, barriers, auras etc.
True enough! I like popping thunder storm and protecting myself with a four stone (E DDDD)shield until it passes (keep another queued up if it hits you or you're toast on the next strike!). Arcane frost beams work well on large enemies after you get them wet. Rain is good for that, then freeze away! The dome shield is effective in keep most enemies away while you prepare some nasty spells. Also, a lightning nova (A SSSS) with four arcane takes out swarms of goblins. The arcane frost nova (S QR QR QR QR) is nice too.
I played through the whole game with Yozora the other day, we finished it in like 6-7 hours or so . (during two days)
I preferred using steam steam electric arcane electric a lot, it makes a rather devastating beam .
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You use the word hypocrite, fine. Don't laugh at anything ever again, because somewhere on the planet someone will be offended.
I suspect a lot of people who are not from the US are not really that familiar with the war. I read a lot of comments saying they are making fun of the Battlefield series (which they clearly are, with the final image at least), but they are also making fun of dropping napalm on Vietnamese people.
The reason I think Vietnam isn't actually that funny isn't because people died, but because it was huge mistake. One we haven't seemed to have learned from.
However, I support your righteous freedom to post insensitive crap on polycount....
I have however tagged Ninja as a loser for being so lame haha :P
Dont report him, flaaaaaame him
Seriously, I thought the pictures were pretty funny considering what they're trying to make a point of. The whole point being that it's pretty tasteless and being thrown over the top.
One can even go so far and use it as a metaphor for how the gaming industry today makes light of tragedies, as it can be seen as a clear satire of many other war-bases videos games.
this is not new.
expansion looks fun.
I like how in this game the racist undertones of most modern FPS games are made explicit, with the Vietcong replaced by sub-human goblins. It really gets to the root of why some people enjoy shooter games.
I imagine the Swedes who made this game live in a mono-culture in which they feel "racism" is some fuzzy abstract concept that doesn't have much to do with them, so I don't really blame them for making this. I think people who live and work around other cultures have less of an excuse.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/02/magicka-vietnam-to-launch-in-about-a-month-arrowhead-ceo-says/
i'm aware this was posted already. but it's awesome. so it deserves to be posted again.
Maybe they should of picked another way to spoof modern shooters... but it really doesn't bother me.
Hah, sweden is anything but monocultured.
But the important thing to remember here is that it is a parody on battlefield and only that.
Murder and war is always a tragedy yet we recreate scenarios of it in just about all games, but we seperate reality from it.
You really have no idea of how wrong you are about that :P Racism is prevalent in Scandinavia. Sweden especially has been picked out as one of the worse places for it.
So I don't think it's about them not knowing what racism is, I think it's about them choosing not to mix race into this at all, they simply don't think so far ahead as to be pc about absolutely everything, heck maybe they believe the world is mature enough to realize nothing is so sacred it can't be humouring.
People looking for racism will find it anywhere they want to. People offering a over the top reaction to racism or just looking for it everywhere to cry and be offended is just as big a problem as people being racist, both parties keep it alive with their constant bickering.
I've had racist remarks thrown at me ever since I was a kid, it stopped once I realized that if I defended myself, I was actually supporting the idea that I was somehow a different race from others.
And seriously are you suggesting that people like shooters because they get to shoot foreign people?
You're completely wrong, people like shooters because they get to shoot people
Looks very diverse-- they have Swedes AND (a very tiny percentage of) Finns:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden#Sweden_census_2005
It clearly has nothing to do with Vietnam.
Yes, exactly. You should come here to Oklahoma
If the toothless locals don't gum you to death, then the next time the powers that be try to shake their little etch-a-sketch this is going to get ya.
I hear you can get 30-40 miles outside of town if you drive with your lights off in the dead of night! The next crescent moon is coming up, now is your chance!
I'm literally 2 miles from Oklahoma, and sadly, he's correct. The southern US is very multicultural, we're just not very good at it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden#Immigration
I mean, I live here, I know what I'm talking about.
If there's 67 000 Poles in Sweden then it's no wonder you are being racist! Ha!
I've been working with Magicka since 2009. Done most of the characters and particle effects. Also done some levels, props, textures and various art assets.
It has been a lot of hard work and it's finally paying off. I've learnt quite a lot during this period and I'm still learning. Personally I didn't expect Magicka would turn out so popular. (I did not expect it would be brought up on the front page of PC either
A major reason why I've been able to do this is because of you guys here at Polycount! Always teaching me something new.
Thank you
i really like casting the "haste" combination as an AOE spell, it deals quite a bit of damage.
Yep. You're right.
They should totally replace those goblins with realistic looking vietnamese people so we can blow them to bits instead. Genius!
Yeah they be hatin' on magicians. Aleister crowley is offended!
Get War Staff->
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Indoors? spam qfqfsaa
Though you need some real luck and timing in some sections since crossing beams with other magic casters is a real fast way to die.
If it manages to spark racial debate with subversive imagery AND elicit a chuckle i think it's vaulted into fine art territory pretty cleanly.
If you have trouble with certain enemies, try use a diffirent spell. Cold works well if you're surrounded. Also don't forget to use diffirent shields, barriers, auras etc.
True enough! I like popping thunder storm and protecting myself with a four stone (E DDDD)shield until it passes (keep another queued up if it hits you or you're toast on the next strike!). Arcane frost beams work well on large enemies after you get them wet. Rain is good for that, then freeze away! The dome shield is effective in keep most enemies away while you prepare some nasty spells. Also, a lightning nova (A SSSS) with four arcane takes out swarms of goblins. The arcane frost nova (S QR QR QR QR) is nice too.
I preferred using steam steam electric arcane electric a lot, it makes a rather devastating beam