What's the point of taking something like Tintin, that is completely defined by its iconic style, and turning it into another realistic looking CG animation? I know the argument is that a mainstream audience wouldn't go and see a stylized, 2d animation adventure movie, but this is a pointless adaptation, at least from a visual perspective. Hopefully the scriptwriters - who have decent pedigree - can inject some life and humour into the script, but I'm very disappointed that they've gone down the Polar Express route with this. The fact that Imagemovers has just gone under should be a fairly strong hint that people are left cold by these kinds of mo-capped, dead-eyed Uncanny Valley dwellers. Herge must be spinning in his grave...
This leaves me wondering ... are you guys familiar with the animated TV series ? Incredibly faithful to the original. Got some very found memories of watching not too long ago ...
This leaves me wondering ... are you guys familiar with the animated TV series ? Incredibly faithful to the original. Got some very found memories of watching not too long ago ...
I loved watching these as a kid, they always dragged you into the story like it should be.
@almighty_gir: the series were never racist iirc, if you refer towards the comicbooks then you need to realize that the first ones were made around the 1930's.
Loved the tv series and books as a kid (still do) and I'm really looking forward to the film.
I don't consider the series racist either. Herge himself said during his last years that he regretted how he'd portrayed the africans in Tintin in Congo for example which is arguably the most racist (by modern western standards) of the Tintin books.
mad respect to tintin and all, but you guys really do need to go back and check out the original books if you don't think it has some racist undertones. : ) It's already well documented, including the reissues that replaced the original 'offensive' art. It's actually really quite interesting, and its easy to blame some of it on naivety on Herg
I loved watching these as a kid, they always dragged you into the story like it should be.
@almighty_gir: the series were never racist iirc, if you refer towards the comicbooks then you need to realize that the first ones were made around the 1930's.
hey man, racist is racist.
doesn't mean it's not funny, or a good read though!
This leaves me wondering ... are you guys familiar with the animated TV series ? Incredibly faithful to the original. Got some very found memories of watching not too long ago ...
Maybe it's not entirely faithful to the comics but it still looks like fun. I'm all for entirely 3d animated action movies that aren't initially intended for children.
Also as for Tintin being racist see; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Congo
"Tintin in the Congo has also been criticised for its treatment of Congolese wildlife, with Tintin taking part in "the wholesale and gratuitous slaughter" of animals by shooting several antelope, killing an ape to wear its skin, injuring an elephant, stoning a buffalo, and (in earlier editions) exploding a rhinoceros from within using dynamite."
It's always fun to read about what assholes these old heroes actually are... also Milou's name is "snowie"?
If I remember right ( haven't read it since the early 80's ) the africans were portrayed as monkeys.
personally when I want to feel reduced to an ornament/caricature I just rent breakfast at tiffanys :nerd: ( it's especially fun to watch with your children for the first time. hah! what fun.. )
I'm super excited, and I'm not too bothered with the art style.
It must be a bit of a side-effect of being 3d artists to be so critical and find uncanny valleys so quickly. I'm pretty good at switching certain parts of my brain off to enjoy... pretty much anything... (I can totally appreciate Final Fantasy: Spirits Within for instance)
Also I don't know if anybody else mentioned this, but apart from realistic cg being the 'in-thing" at the moment so is depth 3D with glasses since Avatar. You can't make too convincing '3D' 2D animated movies to charge more for.
I totally agree with perna. I loved the movie, while the first moment i saw tintin was somewhat strange, after a minute or lets say 5 minutes you are absolutely in the universe, the look is great, the rendering is great, pretty much every character was an actual character and not the generic crap Pixar and Dreamworks tend to do for their non story related characters.
Everything was so full of life and vibrant, the animations where great besides some stiff looking ones - the action is very well composed. They have awesome cameraangles, very sweet cuts. Overall it just raised the bar by quite a bit higher, really a must see movie.
Especially because it feels like a cool oldschool Actionmovie, like some of the old Indiana Jones movies.
Don't get me started on the hair, it was beautifull and the colorpalette and...
well i was pretty much blown away
also by the 3d, i usually hate 3d in movies, its annoyingly distracting, you have to concentrate much more while watching. And i already was like "ah this is going to suck" when i saw the trailers upfront. But I almost never searched for the focus, the cuts and blends are very well made for 3d, and there are only a few rare occasions where something comes out of the screen. Most of the time you just look like through a window into the scene, much less annoying than how 3d is made most of the time, like
WE CAN DO 3D SO TAKE IT IN YOUR FACE BITCH
also no too fast 3d action, often times with those modern movies its really hard to follow the choreography because of it beeing too fast but not playing with enough frames, super annoying in 3d
okay gonna stop here, i think i might even watch it again just to see what going on in the background besides the main story because it felt so rich and well done i'm pretty sure i missed a lot of nicely done details.
This movie was totally enjoyable from start to end, had also get used to the artstyle first but in the end it just fits, with Rango prolly one of the movies i liked most watching this year. Only little nitpick compared to the comics its a bit tame, needs more Haddock swearing.
I saw the trailer for this last night before Puss in Boots, and i am excited for this movie. Looks really awesome. If it has character development in a good story. I bet it will be great.
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It would of been better if they went with a style similar to The Incredibles I think.
I loved watching these as a kid, they always dragged you into the story like it should be.
@almighty_gir: the series were never racist iirc, if you refer towards the comicbooks then you need to realize that the first ones were made around the 1930's.
I don't consider the series racist either. Herge himself said during his last years that he regretted how he'd portrayed the africans in Tintin in Congo for example which is arguably the most racist (by modern western standards) of the Tintin books.
hey man, racist is racist.
doesn't mean it's not funny, or a good read though!
The original cartoons were awesome. I think I've still got a few lying around on VHS.
My criticisms still remain, but this is starting to look pretty good.
Also as for Tintin being racist see;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Congo
"Tintin in the Congo has also been criticised for its treatment of Congolese wildlife, with Tintin taking part in "the wholesale and gratuitous slaughter" of animals by shooting several antelope, killing an ape to wear its skin, injuring an elephant, stoning a buffalo, and (in earlier editions) exploding a rhinoceros from within using dynamite."
It's always fun to read about what assholes these old heroes actually are... also Milou's name is "snowie"?
I dont like the animation, its kind of floaty, and theres lots of contrived situations. I'm sure it'll be great though.
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haha I love this one, he surely regret what he did. and make this awesome volume. one of my favorite from him.
personally when I want to feel reduced to an ornament/caricature I just rent breakfast at tiffanys :nerd: ( it's especially fun to watch with your children for the first time. hah! what fun.. )
It must be a bit of a side-effect of being 3d artists to be so critical and find uncanny valleys so quickly. I'm pretty good at switching certain parts of my brain off to enjoy... pretty much anything... (I can totally appreciate Final Fantasy: Spirits Within for instance)
Also I don't know if anybody else mentioned this, but apart from realistic cg being the 'in-thing" at the moment so is depth 3D with glasses since Avatar. You can't make too convincing '3D' 2D animated movies to charge more for.
Everything was so full of life and vibrant, the animations where great besides some stiff looking ones - the action is very well composed. They have awesome cameraangles, very sweet cuts. Overall it just raised the bar by quite a bit higher, really a must see movie.
Especially because it feels like a cool oldschool Actionmovie, like some of the old Indiana Jones movies.
Don't get me started on the hair, it was beautifull and the colorpalette and...
well i was pretty much blown away
also by the 3d, i usually hate 3d in movies, its annoyingly distracting, you have to concentrate much more while watching. And i already was like "ah this is going to suck" when i saw the trailers upfront. But I almost never searched for the focus, the cuts and blends are very well made for 3d, and there are only a few rare occasions where something comes out of the screen. Most of the time you just look like through a window into the scene, much less annoying than how 3d is made most of the time, like
WE CAN DO 3D SO TAKE IT IN YOUR FACE BITCH
also no too fast 3d action, often times with those modern movies its really hard to follow the choreography because of it beeing too fast but not playing with enough frames, super annoying in 3d
okay gonna stop here, i think i might even watch it again just to see what going on in the background besides the main story because it felt so rich and well done i'm pretty sure i missed a lot of nicely done details.
That mummy was so damn scary when I was a kid...
Honestly don't see how that one is racist .. it's an evil aztec mummy come to life?