Guns [W.I.P]

J-kid

I have been working on this lot since yesterday, this is the first attempt high poly modelling using 3ds max and i am going to bake it down to around 3000 polys. Critiques needed. By the way it is the Sig P226

Front



Front Wireframe



Rear



Rear Wireframe



After i finish this I will attempt another gun

Kitteh

Very inaccurate. The trigger guard is too thin and the back of the grip shouldn't come to a point like that. You're also missing slide rails and a whole bunch of details with the shape of the frame.

Razgriz

One of the big problems with your workflow is that you are trying to build this as one or two very large pieces, and the result is that you have a a billion edge loops that are impossible to shape forms with. Real guns aren't built like that, and your 3d model shouldn't be, either. Building your grip into the actual metal handle is making the whole thing look like a mess. It will take hours to edit anything, and is very inefficient.

On a positive note, your edge loops are still there. I would remove about 80% of them, go back to your basic forms, and really have all the shapes where you want them before you start adding any type of details and control edges. I also would hope that you are working from multiple references. Right now it's rectangular, and real guns are less squarish than you might think.

Keep working on it and it'll get there, but you need to back way up and start with getting the forms down first.

J-kid

Okay i think i will model the handle and the grip again but make the separated this time.... sigh

Harry

J-kid wrote: »

Okay i think i will model the handle and the grip again but make the separated this time.... sigh

with all due respect, if you feel discouraged or bothered by having to pay attention to detail, you're going to have to change your attitude entirely. Otherwhise, hardsurface will do your head in, comrade.

pliang

Just model the parts separately, as if they can be field stripped and taken apart, that's how guns are put together, it'll make your life much easier that way.

CapN

I actually just modeled one of these a few months ago and found some awesome reference images for the gun at http://www.pixagogo.com/8682754113 Razgriz is right, modeling everything in separate pieces is definitely the way to go.

It looks like the slide and chamber are shaping up nicely. The hardest part of this gun is the rear at the top of the grip where it bulges out, lots of odd angles. Check that reference out to help block out that area. Also your trigger and trigger guard need to be wider.

Here is a link to my thread for the 226 I built if you are interested http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75772

n88tr

Too inaccurate and way too many polies

more reference images needed and then start fresh, it'll be a good move to make

Alberto Rdrgz

Don't get discouraged man, you'll soon find out that getting attached to models will ruin you, you have to always see things as "how can I get better with this model" (and also, have fun) thus, thinking that you're gonna get it right off the bat from the beginning (with low experience) is unreal.

So, start with a REAL basic shape; a low-poly model. something that you can build a high-poly structure on top of. forget about turbo-smooth for now, until you have the gist of it down.

Good luck and don't be afraid of having your stuff ripped apart in the end we're all trying to make your work better.

-Alberto

Will Faucher

n88tr wrote: »

Too inaccurate and way too many polies

more reference images needed and then start fresh, it'll be a good move to make

That is his high poly. He hasn't baked down yet.
Also, I agree with Alberto. Don't give up! Keep trying hard! You'll make it eventually. Even god didn't make the universe in a day!

J-kid

Thanks for the links CapN it's kind of hard to find the reference pictures i wanted

Ott

Really?

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1600&bih=1113&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=%22Sig+P226%22&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Ihazard

http://pixagogo.com/8682754113

Av7xrocker97

a bit l8 m8
capn already pointed that out.

Ihazard

true, true, I read what he put before ott's post wrong oopsy >.<

J-kid

I already searched on google but all i found was the ones looked kind of different if you get what i mean

Kitteh

try http://gunbroker.com

J-kid

Since the 3ds max file for the sig p226 won't open :poly127: i started to make the Mac-11 i've been working on it all day. This is the high poly and i'm going to bake it down, once it's finished.

an aggressive napkin

Alotta inaccuracies, I would go check over some refs to be sure you do it correctly

J-kid

I used these pictures for reference

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/catalog/product/gallery/id/9288/image/29699/