TF2 - Polypack - REKLAS

REKLAS

I want to make stuff that not only is a good idea and fits within the game, but is an item that I would actually use.


Class: Scout


Theme: ...not sure yet. Possibly "Off-Season Training" or "Open Season"


____ITEM#1__________________________________________________________________________________________
Name: The Opener
Slot: Melee

IDEA#1 +20% Damage Done. No longer capture objective points x2. ...or...
IDEA#2 Leaves your victim bleeding with open wounds (similar to the Tribalman's Shiv). -35% damage done. ...or...
IDEA#3 Ability to reflect projectiles if you swing at the right moment (similar to Pyro's compression blast). -25% damage done. ...or...
IDEA#4 Maybe it replaces the Sandman but instead of a ball you have the ability to throw your bat like a tomahawk which does massive damage but leaves you without a melee weapon until you retrieve it. ...or...



...anything other than less health, please. (up to Valve)

Concept


Current Progress (Model Finished. Unwrapped. Texture in progress)



"I'll open more than just soda with this frickin' thing." - Scout


____ITEM#2__________________________________________________________________________________________
Name: ...not sure yet, but it's a Peaked Snow Cap or Earflap hat.
Slot: Head

Reference



...stay tuned for ITEM#3. ...or suggest cool ideas.


I figured since Scout has lots of can piercers lying around from all the Bonk sodas he has to open, he could spare a few to rig one of his bats that was split in half into a deadly skull crackin' weapon.


Let me know what you think. Suggestions wanted, especially for a good name. Was also considering: Splitter, Mind Opener, Pinch Hitter, Dinger, ...

Naso

Maybe black electric tape to keep the wood in place instead of that red thing, looks dangerous, can't wait to see the model !

Karkasmolenklok

I actually like the red thing, and the shoelaces are an excellent touch as well.

REKLAS

The "red thing" is a bat weight





Thanks guys.

Naso

/ Dosen't know much about sports

Sorry, guess that really does fit the theme then heh, carry on!

Karkasmolenklok

Knew what it was, just not what it's called.

BANG!

That looks quite badass! can't wait to see it modeled =D

REKLAS

Thanks!



I suppose I should clarify that the can piercers/openers (also known as churchkeys) are the type of can openers that "pierce" the can and make the triangle shaped opening seen in the Bonk cans. That's why they seemed fitting for the Scout to have/use.

Bonk! Atomic Punch


Reference

Karkasmolenklok

Which, naturally, also fits quite well with the 50's time period

REKLAS

Precisely.

Which is why I felt it was a cool idea worth pursuing. Not sure if I'm gonna make 3 different items though, unless I can come up with 2 other solid ideas. (I know making two secondary slot items doesn't count. see below)



Possible ideas I'm thinking about (for Bonk replacements)

Juice Box



Chewing gum

Buck

Nice idea!

REKLAS

Thanks.


Model progress



Feedback?

Khthon

Looks good, maybe a third or fourth can opener? You could also have some damage to the openers, have them really bent out of shape.

Spazzo

looking very nice. any chance of making the shoelace jiggleboned when you put it in?

oh, and I'm guessing you'll be putting the actual grip on later, and what you've got in now is a placeholder?

REKLAS

Thanks.

I'd like to keep if fairly minimum (with only 2 openers) since Scouts stuff is pretty simplified and once I'm done it'll already be on the busy side for a scout weapon. Good call on bending them out of shape more, as you can (sort of) see from the comparison shot, I bent the one end a bit but it should probably be exaggerated more.


I want the shoelace to be jiggleboned yes, ...though i have no idea how to go about making that happen.

I was just planning on texturing the grip on since you hardly even see the grip in-game since his hand covers it so I feel like modeling out the grip would be unnecessary.

Karkasmolenklok

I will say I like the coloring on the concept art much better than the color you've got (I'm well aware that it's not completely colored let alone textured)

EDIT: hey, do you remember scott smalls' hat in The Sandlot? With the extra-long brim?

Ravidge

Hah, that bat looks brutal. The innocent little juice box idea doesn't match the bat I'm afraid. You should go for something with a little more force...
How about a pill bottle with steroids for a short power boost?

Fragus

make the ring smaller, it looks too fat

DDSN

What about a whistle? You know like a referee's whistle. Heres some stat ideas:

+Charged somehow, maybe through damage. (Open for improvement.)
+Speeds up your comrades.
+Alt-fire hands out penalty cards, dealing random effects for the type of card. (Cards would be green, yellow, and red. Chances are: Green 65%, Yellow 25%, and Red 10%.)

REKLAS

...I don't know, stuff in TF2 tends to have a bulkier/thicker look to it. I'll play around with it though.


Speaking of looking too innocent for Scouts new bad*ss bat, here's a "hat" /misc? slot item I'm thinking about making



I'm not sure if Valve would allow a new head texture as a "hat" and/or Misc slot item.

Khthon

name-wise: Skull Opener? Skull Splitter?

REKLAS

I kinda like Skull Splitter, but the Demo already has the Scottsmans Skullcutter though, so I'm gonna not go with "skull".


I'm thinking Pinch Hitter would make a decent name.

Khthon

Eye Poper?

Khthon

Anyways, theme, hm. Just going to go baseball?

Simski

REKLAS wrote: »

Thanks!



I suppose I should clarify that the can piercers/openers (also known as churchkeys) are the type of can openers that "pierce" the can and make the triangle shaped opening seen in the Bonk cans. That's why they seemed fitting for the Scout to have/use.

Bonk! Atomic Punch


Reference

Brilliant, your modeling a cool model and teaching us about history at the same time.
AWESOME

DDSN

If your going with a sport theme, make a referee's whistle. It would work like a Buff Banner, except it would speed up your teammates.
YES? NO? OKAY? GOODDAY.

Y_M

Don't split the bat totally in two, it makes it look like after a single hit the can openers would fall out. If the end nearest the handle is still attached it makes it plausible that the weight is successfully clamping the openers in place.

Psyke

DDSN wrote: »

If your going with a sport theme, make a referee's whistle. It would work like a Buff Banner, except it would speed up your teammates.
YES? NO? OKAY? GOODDAY.

>superfast kritz'd heavies..

ooh yeah. real even :P

Meower

That bat needs much more detail, I'd say you should use two different kinds of wood to match the team colors. You should also add grains to the wooden bats.
As a secondary unlock it'd be cool to see some different kind of pistol, maybe using BONK! atomic punch's colors (so yellow/red and azure/blue).

Tahrinya

The bat looks really cool, especially the concept art.

Keep it up (:

Karkasmolenklok

"The Opener" would be an excellent name. It describes it well and has the baseball double-meaning.

theirishw

REKLAS wrote: »

Thanks!



I suppose I should clarify that the can piercers/openers (also known as churchkeys) are the type of can openers that "pierce" the can and make the triangle shaped opening seen in the Bonk cans. That's why they seemed fitting for the Scout to have/use.

Bonk! Atomic Punch


Reference

Just wanted to say, that those are old style soda fans fitting the TF2 time era.
They actually used a pull tab instead of a can opener, or the modern pop tabs.

REKLAS

Yeah, you're right Karkasmolenklok. "The Opener" is actually the first name I thought of but I thought it was too obvious, but after thinking about it most of the current weapon names are quite literal and blatantly obvious and to the point so I think I'm gonna go back to "The Opener" since it makes the most sense.

Tahrinya - Thanks! Much appreciated

Meower - You are aware that that model is a WIP and isn't textured at all, right?

Y_M - After I put the shoelace around the bat it should look more secured.

DDSN & Khthon - For theme I'm going with "Opening Day" ...which fits with the bat with can openers in it and the baseball theme. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opening_Day

REKLAS

theirishw - The caption under that image on Wikipedia says "Old style pull-tab in use on a can of Tsingtao Beer (青岛啤酒) in Beijing, China in 2009". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_can

Though it does say that cans with pull tabs were invented in 1956 so that very well could be the case for Bonk/Crit-a-Cola, but either way the can opener idea makes for a cooler weapon.

POFFINGTON

keep it up Reklas. This thing is looking sick. i can't wait to see the other items. Maybe he hit's a ruber band ball or something.....maybe not haha.

REKLAS

Thanks Poffington. Ha, I thought about a rubberband ball, but ...no.



Model finished



Unless anyone has any major gripes about it I'm gonna unwrap it tomorrow.

nofacej

Looks great. I'm very interested to see what else you cook up.

REKLAS

Thanks.


For a hat idea I'm thinking about doing a peaked snow cap.

My dad has old photos from the 50s of himself wearing one of these as a kid. I can't seem to find that great of references online though for exactly what I want to make, but this hat is sort of close to what I'm thinking.


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Color and texture more like these though






Or possibly black/gray

Khthon

A snow cap on opening day would be a bit hot.

REKLAS

Ha. Yeah I don't think "Opening Day" works as a theme anymore. ...hmm.


For a name for the bat, what do you guys think about "Season Opener" instead of just "The Opener". Or maybe "The Seasoned Opener". Thoughts?

nrek

Bat looks great REKLAS, the shoelace is a very nice touch. I like season opener over the seasoned opener.

REKLAS

Thanks, I thought it fit with Scout quite nicely . ...yeah the name Seasoned Opener sucks.

For theme maybe "Open Season".

chickenman

Pinch Hitter?
Designated Hitter?
The Big Opener?

http://www.nocryinginbaseball.com/glossary/glossary.html

idk.

diggin' the shoelace.

REKLAS

I was considering Pinch Hitter at one point. hmm, maybe I should go back to it. Ha, I went through that site earlier. I actually like the name Batter's Box ...but I don't know how much it makes sense. If I threw some blades in there I could call it the Batter's Box Cutter. ...but I don't really wanna do that.


I'm thinking these make the most sense and work the best.

"The Opener"
"Pinch Hitter"

nofacej

The Opener is definitely the best name suggested so far. Changing the theme does nothing to diminish the pun. You still have an opening batsman in any season.

You could also base your theme around the four seasons. The Opener representing Summer and Summer Sports, the hat representing winter, and then another item for Spring and another for Autumn/Fall.

Khthon

AH yes a good theme -

A Scout for All Seasons

a pun on the famous play name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Man_for_All_Seasons

or

Off-Season Training

REKLAS

nofacej - Yeah I'll probably stick with "The Opener" for a bat name (unless something epic pops into someone's head) It works and makes the most sense.

nofacej & Khthon - I like the Off-Season Training idea. The bat weight fits in nicely with the training aspect. If I go with the Seasons thing, he could maybe have lemonade for a Bonk replacement. Just a quick random idea.



Unwrap for the bat completed.

Khthon

Post that texture when you can!

Karkasmolenklok

I still say a long-brimmed hat like Smalls' from the Sandlot would be great (and both a baseball and pop culture reference, which valve laps up like hobo soup)

REKLAS

I suppose, but I don't think I would use that hat and thus, don't feel like making something I wouldn't use myself in the game.

Khthon - Texture coming right up! (WIP)

Psyke

i'd blood tip the metal openers