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Svdl

Hey there.

Sniper's gonna do some shooting Lawrence of Arabia style.





Here's the final stuff ingame.
The headscarf


The rifle, different amounts of decoration were included as alternate textures when submitting.



The scimitar

Khthon wrote: »

Hat -

Nomad's Noggincover

The Mesopotamian

Saudi Suncover

Lawrence's Lament

Freelancer of Arabia

Mercenary's Mercantile

Snipe-Clan Turban

Rifle -

Stifler's Rifle

The Mideasterner

Mideast Beast

Tuskin' Raider (ref to Star Wars)

Aurora (the root of east is the Latin 'aurora')

Melee -

Saharan Scimitar

The Hurtile Crescent

Dunewalker's Doom

The Millennium Falchion (falchion is a scimitar and name is ref to the Millennium Falcon in Star Wars)

Turk's Dirk

Here's a whole bunch of better names if the ones I included sounded too retarded.

Svdl

Here's the basic shape for a sabre.

cookiecrisps

Nice Hat for the sniper I like, keep up the good work

re.wind

oh nice, i'm loving this so far. Definitely a very unique and interesting twist to the sniper, yet somehow it kind of fits...

Svdl

Here's a more finished model of the sabre with some placeholder colors.




And for the rifle replacement I'm thinking about these guns, they have the sort of goofiness in them that I think would fit nicely in the game.

Svdl

Tweaked the sabre a bit more, here's what it looks like now in game, though it has placeholder textures.


I'm not sure about the size yet.

Fragus

Persian style for an Australian sniper?

Svdl

As I said in the original post, I'm going for a lawrence of arabia/world traveling theme. The sniper strikes me as the type who travels a lot.

Ruskeydoo

I really like this idea

The headscarf though? How are you going to get it to look decent when the snipers head moves?

Svdl

The neck part won't move with his head and the head part is pretty snug. I doubt there will be noticiable stretching so I think(hope) there won't be too much problems.
In the worst case scenario, there's always other hats.

Blueplastic

I would remove the neck part because if they are together this would not be a hat or a misc...it would be something combined.
That removes the hat+misc combination for this "headgear".
Sorry for my English...i hope you understand me

Rhinokey

do they allow hats to be rigged to multiple bones? is that done on any of the current hats?

Svdl

I've rigged stuff to work for multiple bones before, I don't know why it wouldn't work for hats or why they wouldn't allow it.
And Blueplastic, I sort of see what you mean, but I don't think having a hat that goes a bit around the neck is too much.

Heh, maybe I'll make the neck part larger and more detailed so it would work as a misc item, we'll see when I get there.

REKLAS

Very cool. Just cause he's Australian doesn't mean he doesn't get hired to assassinate people in other countries, and he has to blend in with his surroundings so he's less noticed. I say keep up the good work.

adam

Awesome idea!

Svdl

Thanks, everyone.

Here's another idea for the scarf, a completely open one. I'm kind of afraid about the whole animation thing with this one, but it's an idea. I'll be making a better closed version as well.

Disco Stu

I prefer the first one and love the whole theme! Now you need some rediculous *we invented maths* type of scope on the rifle

Karkasmolenklok

I love it. Something else you could consider is going for the team-colored keffiyah (which traditionally come in red and blue anyway). It might also succeed in masking some of the shading/wrinkle bleh of the plain beige version.

Also as Disco Stu said above, a scope might be cool, I'd go for one of the old long brass scopes that go the whole length of the barrel and look like a telescope.

Svdl

Here's the scarf all wrapped around the head.
It's going to need a whole lot of cleaning up, oh boy oh boy.

removed picture, see below for new.

Moosey_G

One of the most original and actually fully integrated theme projects yet, nice work!

Bardahten

Very cool, but really get a strong mixture of different cultures entirely.

Enderstaley

Wow, great theme. Cant wait to see how this turns out.

Steve Schulze

The Rats of Tobruk might be an obvious link to get an Australian combatant in Arabic garb. They were a famous Australian military force stationed in Tobruk, Libya during world war 2.

Have a look at the Wikipedia page. There are some interesting possibilities for items and names there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rats_of_tobruk

Svdl

I cleaned the wrap-around scarf a bit, probably still needs finishing touches, though the darkest areas shouldn't be quite as dark in the actual game. If someone has any ideas on how to make the model look better other than just smoothing the rough areas by hand, I'd appreciate hearing some.


Thanks, Jackablade, I'll take a look.

And Bardahley, I'm not sure if I will make other cultures yet, but if I will, I'll do those after I'm finished with these ones.

Buck

Try doing it in zbrush maybe? i would just leave it as it is and throw on a normal map.

Svdl

Never used zbrush, but I'll check it out.

Anyway, I updated the original post with a picture of the scarf of how it currently looks in game. It needs a texture and a bunch of tweaking so it looks smooth when the sniper's head moves, but everything should work out just fine.

New page so I'll throw this here.

re.wind

brilliant. It doesn't really need a texture at this point, there is enough information in the shadows and highlights.

However, having said that, a simple ao bake and some random brushwork would make it even better.

Guitbox

Really like this. Whole different look for him, but it fits well.

I would say, a minor little thing, maybe move the headband part a little bit? Looks perfectly horizontal, which looks the slightest bit off. But its not really much :S

Otherwise, kickass! I want to see the gun

Svdl

Yeah, I'll be definately doing something to the headband, the style I'm going for has fairly elaborate ones, though I don't know how much I can do about it since I'm pretty close to the polygon limit already.

I started doing the gun, too.

Trigger temporarily stolen from the original.

Svdl

Tried putting it in game to see how the length works.

It's quite long.

I don't really like the camping back and charging shots style of play, and this certainly looks like a gun that's slower than the normal one. I'll probably try shorter versions at some point.

Zipfinator

Maybe this could be a weapon that goes into a zoomed in ironsight when you zoom? I know you're not supposed to come up with gameplay but you say you don't like campers and ironsights would be a good compromise.

nrek

Haha nice! I think the length is what makes it cool, but looking into shorter versions might be a good idea. I would imagine with it being that long it could cause some problems with colliding/clipping into world objects and stuff. Keep up the good work.

dynamic glue

what program have u used to create such awesome pieces of work?

Karkasmolenklok

Svdl wrote: »

I don't really like the camping back and charging shots style of play, and this certainly looks like a gun that's slower than the normal one.

Add a magazine, it'll go great with the whole "recklessly modified old shit" theme.

But yes, that is very long.

duoxan

oh man this is awesome work, love the rifle. id cut it back about two rings from the tip, should be good with that

Buck

Making it just a few inches longer than original sniper rifle would be fine, this looks like it would clip through walls and stuff really easy.

Armanky

Nice model. I like it being an excessively long rifle, but not to the degree that it is in the picture. And then there's clipping issues as mentioned.

Xeramon

I love the scarf I hope i can see that again in TF2

dickless

The scarf and sabre are looking really nice, hope they make it into the game one way or another.

I agree that the rifle is too long though, how about shortening the wooden part to where the original sniper rifle ends then have the same amount of barrel sticking out as you have now.

EDIT: The flintlock firing mechanism seems to be a distinctive feature of the rifles you used as an inspiration and I think the rifle needs it as it is a little bland at the moment. Can't wait to see what you do with it anyway.

Rogue Trooper

I don't know what your line of thinking for the scope is but I think something long and thin like the below picture would work quite well for this rifle.

Svdl

Ironsights are a great idea, I'll take a look if I can manage to get the scope overlay looking like them. But I'll also check out some scope designs, the one above is nice and long, but I feel it's a bit too modern looking for the rifle, we'll see.

I went back to fiddling with the scarf, and the movement is starting to look acceptable. There's some stretching, but I think it works.

HonkyPunch

At that length, the gun should be called "The Compensator"

Ikimono

my suggestion would be to have very dark team colors for this instead of the BRIGHT WHITE (would make any sniper using the hat stand out like a sore thumb against other snipers)

Ikimono

Buck wrote: »

Making it just a few inches longer than original sniper rifle would be fine, this looks like it would clip through walls and stuff really easy.

Agreed, The pyro already has a severe problem with not actually being able to ambush players if he's near a corner, Sniper doesn't need a weapon that can stick through walls either :S

Svdl

I like it white, though. It won't be quite as bright when I get the texture with the AO and normals and whatever else included. Then again, exploring some other color schemes never hurt anyone, so I'll be sure to try some out. I don't know about dark team colored, but a dark scarf is certainly an option.

Naso

That hat is fanominal, can't wait to see the rifle.

Rogue Trooper

Well then, if you want old sniper scopes...


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dickless

Rogue Trooper wrote: »

Well then, if you want old sniper scopes...


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I like the first one of these the best. I love the idea of having a scope that's as long as the barrel.

Karkasmolenklok

Ikimono wrote: »

my suggestion would be to have very dark team colors for this instead of the BRIGHT WHITE (would make any sniper using the hat stand out like a sore thumb against other snipers)

Well as I said on the first page, the keffiyeh/shemagh traditionally comes in both red and blue patterns (example: red) It'd be a relatively simple pattern.

Frankly, I think it looks okay as plain white, but that is just me.

Psyke

maybe he could make the black band. a muted team colour?

Ikimono

Karkasmolenklok wrote: »

Well as I said on the first page, the keffiyeh/shemagh traditionally comes in both red and blue patterns (example: red) It'd be a relatively simple pattern.

Frankly, I think it looks okay as plain white, but that is just me.

It looks good, but it makes the sniper's head stand out like a sore thumb, which is bad for the sniper that is wearing the hat, Other snipers could pick him out easily.

This is the reason why the Engineer's Hard Hat and Texas Ten Gallon hat make him such an easy sniper target, because his head practically Glows.