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W.I.P AK-47u :O

hey guys well been some time that i posted besides the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1
But i did not get many Replys so i just left the model because there were not many Reference images for some parts.
Anyways i Made an AK first model actually made without any errors
Please comment and let me know what you think
Crits are loved here are the images

ak47u.jpg
ak47u2.jpg

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  • gibson543
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    gibson543 polycounter lvl 13
    looks good so far are you using racers tut
  • Rock Bottom
    yeah i used his tut to start, now i am trying not to use them i wanna see how close i can get to making it like his. I have to say thanks to his tuts modeling is a lot easy than my old method of modeling.

    Special thanks to Racer445 and Lonewolf
  • gibson543
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    gibson543 polycounter lvl 13
    can you post some wires aswell?
  • Kitteh
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    Kitteh polycounter lvl 18
    Your pistol grip looks a bit too thin and small in general. also, that little rounded indent in front of the trigger guard on the lower receiver needs to be taller. See this picture (the indent right above the magazine)
    e-BI-AK74U.jpg
  • Rock Bottom
    Hi guys i have finally finished modeling the weapon i just need the guts to start Texturing it please comment and crit

    ak47u2.jpg
    ak47u.jpg
    And some wires

    ak47u2wireframe.jpg
    ak47uwireframe.jpg
    please crit and comment :)
  • Disco Stu
    first read and follow legit crits ;)
  • Rock Bottom
    cmon guys no one realy has no comments? wow i must realy suck then :(
  • Grimm_Wrecking
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    Grimm_Wrecking polycounter lvl 8
    Kitteh wrote: »
    Your pistol grip looks a bit too thin and small in general. also, that little rounded indent in front of the trigger guard on the lower receiver needs to be taller. See this picture (the indent right above the magazine)
    e-BI-AK74U.jpg

    qft.

    Also your upper and lower receiver should form more of a V shape from the side silhouette.
    close up rear

    The gas block tapers. Its about 2/3 the width on the bottom @ the barrel and once it raises to drive the piston rod its hangs further back. It pinches together and has a small cylindrical shape in between the barrel and the piston chamber as well.

    The front of the barrel choke before the muzzle break tapers into the muzzle break instead of stopping flat its a subtle taper but still noticeable.

    I would make the seam a little more apparent between the wood covers and the back flat of the gas block.

    The wood should taper slightly from front to back over the top view, its hard to see from your angle, and it might, but mentioning it just in case.

    The woods lip is maybe 25-20% to far down past the lower receiver and it also needs to lip and cover the bottom of the receiver by about 2-4cm depending on how much you want to exaggerate, but its there in both versions of forward grip.
    lip I'm talking about.



    AK 74 U ToNs of Pics
    Some people have posted links to this photo album before.

    Over all its not bad, it just needs a lot of little work to be more accurate. People seemed to have stopped commenting most likely because you seemingly ignored the first real crit someone gave you about the lower receiver not being tall enough and the grip being dinky.

    Both are valid to an extent. The lower receiver is too short in the rear because it doesn't taper, and its hard to see that without a flat on boring side view of the weapon. The grip, yeah it looks a little small. Hence "qft" at the beginning of my wall of text.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, and sorry if I sound that way, just the fact that even a few people commented you should be happy about, doesn't always happen. And for the most part the guys on here really seem to know their firearms, and real criticism should be headed, unless you can refute it with real to life reference and point out why its the way it should be. Even then it may just be because it would look better from a 3d standpoint.

    Keep up the good work and it'll be a great gun if you take the time and really pimp it out. :thumbup:
  • Joel F
    Might i ask for a link to that tutorial?
  • Rock Bottom
    Grimm: yeah i agree with you maybe with the measures i am not so accurate and i have try to stay as precise as i can on the reference images. I will try and see what i can do because clearly it is not at the tip top shape that it has to be :) and if it seemed like i ignored the first comment i am sorry but i did not i did make the Grip wider but taller i cant because on the reference image it is that height and the dent i made it taller maybe it is not noticeable. And about the grip i am not so sure if it dents in ore out on the top part but i cant quite make heads ore tale about it to me it looks like in but i might be wrong.and what is a "gas block taper" sorry i don't know that much about weaponry and don't worry you did not sound like a dick you just doing your job :) and i will work on it more this is actually my first real model that i might post on a future portfolio. another thing if i manage to unwrap this i bet the crits will be HUGE cause i have never actually textured a model :P anyways thanks for the crit

    Joel: here is the link AK Tutorial
    Enjoy!
  • Lonewolf
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    Lonewolf polycounter lvl 18
    looks great dude , you're learning really fast

    :)
  • Rock Bottom
    Thanks man :) am trying to be good at something.
  • Grimm_Wrecking
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    Grimm_Wrecking polycounter lvl 8
    the gas block is what drives the automatic fire or well part of it. Its the part that the forward sight raises off of on the 74u. its between the wood and the muzzle, that small semi-thin tall thing.

    ak74u-gasblockandmuzzle.JPG

    and that may actually not be a gas block, not too familiar with the 74, but its the most likely place for it and follows the same style, just a bit short :poly136:
  • Rock Bottom
    is it this?
    sorry dont know why i cant post the image itself
    http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ak74ugasblockandmuzzle.jpg/
  • Rang3r1
    I'm just going to say one thing. You are still learning, and sometimes you need to take a little bit of artistic license. Now I understand that you followed Racer's tut., and your model looks very good. I just don't think that you should spend hours and hours making every scratch look perfect. There are times for perfect accuracy, and there are times for leeway.

    It looks great, but don't sweat the small stuff.
  • Rock Bottom
    Ranger1:true very true bro but i think what Grimm is saying is to learn how to get perfection so that when i am almost as good as you guys i can make pretty good stuff at a still learning stage but yes i agree that stressing now is not the point.
  • Grimm_Wrecking
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    Grimm_Wrecking polycounter lvl 8
    He is still learning, but tackling complex shapes and striving for perfection forces you to look at problems different and helps you develop your technical eye, imo.

    Like I said it looks fine as is, but it could log amazing with some extra effort. .

    Rock: We are always at the learning stage, even pros like Kevin_J, Pior and Lonewolf always find a better way to do something. Maybe not as often as people like us still working at developing/honing skills, but I'm sure they'd agree that you can always learn something new.

    That being said, you're also missing a bump from the inner left (from a firing position) of the buttstock that pushes forward towards the gun body. :)

    (I also edited the image in my last post to point out things I was talking about.
  • Rock Bottom
    wtf??


    wtfwl.jpg

    Please help any ideas? i tryed uninstalling and re-installing but same problem
  • AlecMoody
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    AlecMoody ngon master
    I had this problem too. I think it was solved by updating xnormal.
  • Rock Bottom
    Hey guys long time no post well i have been busy at work. Back to the model there is a small problem and smoothing does not fix it.wtfpyl.jpg
    the wierd thing is that the other side is perfectly nice and smooth any ideas? i tryed flipping the green channel, nothing flipping the polygons, nothing what should i do?
  • Rock Bottom
    hey guys i started texturing the ak but i have this smoothing error it curves in insted of out any ideas how to fix it? the smoothing in max is perfect everything looks great but in 8monkey lab its all backwards :S

    helpow.jpg
  • Firebert
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    Firebert polycounter lvl 15
    flippy the greeny channel in photoshopies and savie outie
  • Rock Bottom
    thanky you very muchy lol
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