temple environment

Timothy_graybill

update- 4-21-10
finished my wall pieces. gonna start working on the plant life tomarrow. see the end of the post for more new stuff.






I've decided to start a new environment. I'm hoping to get more into zbush for this environment because it is very organic. here is what I have done today. crits welcome also if you know where I can get some good zbrush tutorials for environments let me know.

here is the concept I found


Here is the model for today



my simple block out

pliang

A nice to break this up in terms of composition you can try breaking a hole at one of the corners and create an interesting source of light into the scene.

So far it seems rather symmetrical without much point of interest.

adam

Apply this sort of dedication to detail to the art and this'll be great. However, in a setting like this lighting can be the easiest thing to kill the quality of the scene. Can't wait to see what you're thinking for that.

Zipfinator

The sculpt is looking nice! Are you planning to go in a cartoony direction or a realistic one? The sculpt suggests realistic but this type of environment would be great in a TF2 or WoW style.

Timothy_graybill

I wanted to do this in a wow blizardy kind of style but im not sure exactly what that workflow would be like. If you know where I can get some tips on that kind of style, it would be helpfull.

Timothy_graybill

so here is my progress over the past few days. I've been working on custom sculpting all my assets in zbrush to try and giver everything a very unique look. let me know what you think. sorry no textures yet.

nbac

looks good so far!keep it up

madmuffin

The bricks on the second from bottom image there on the left wall all look like they are popped in rather then sticking out for some reason to me.

Wayfa

madmuffin wrote: »

The bricks on the second from bottom image there on the left wall all look like they are popped in rather then sticking out for some reason to me.

+1

It also looks a bit too symmetric to me.

nbac

nice progress! im building the same scene we could share this thread

haiddasalami

Haha found the same concept a while back

Timothy_graybill

Wayfa wrote: »

+1

It also looks a bit too symmetric to me.

I am going to try to break up the symmetry a little towards the end by adding some rocks and dirt and plants. I may break some of the sculptures too.

Timothy_graybill

nbac wrote: »

nice progress! im building the same scene we could share this thread

haha cool. I would like to see yours where can I find it

Timothy_graybill

Update: 4- 14- 01

worked on the top canopy and finished some textures for some of the models

cholden

There's a lot of variety in styles (and contrast) between one stone material to the next.

The grout (spacing) between the larger stones in the wall looks odd against the smaller stones at the bottom which have minimal distance between each other even though they are very large, heavy stones. One would think they would have used the same materials in building this temple. Additionally that picture of the carpet on the ceiling is just another example of a conflicting style by just hucking in photorealism.

This lack of unification will bite you in the ass in the long term as no matter the level of atmospheric effects added to the scene will hide it. Consider adopting a single style and recreating your materials in that one.

KateC

So nice! I'm stalking this like a preteen girl stalks a Twilight star.

Spitfire

You should really tone down the extreme light sources and try to build the light slowly with a good base lighting for the room, then add the smaller independent lightsources, to get a more even feel.

Awesome art there, great sculpting and detailing!

nbac

i like your progress very much!
i build the scene in the udk
as a mini project to work in the enigne
i did not start a wip thread keep it up

Jeremy Lindstrom

put a little gold indiana jones fertility goddess statue as your focal point in front of the main statue there FTW.. good stuff keepign an eye on this one too.

Timothy_graybill

cholden wrote: »

There's a lot of variety in styles (and contrast) between one stone material to the next.

The grout (spacing) between the larger stones in the wall looks odd against the smaller stones at the bottom which have minimal distance between each other even though they are very large, heavy stones. One would think they would have used the same materials in building this temple. Additionally that picture of the carpet on the ceiling is just another example of a conflicting style by just hucking in photorealism.

This lack of unification will bite you in the ass in the long term as no matter the level of atmospheric effects added to the scene will hide it. Consider adopting a single style and recreating your materials in that one.

I totally agree with what your saying, actually that was what was bugging me last after I stopped working on this thing. I hate when your art is haunting you even when you need to stop working and relax. the good thing is that the some of the stone you speak of will be replaced with other art. And I wasn't dig the big persian rug looking thing on top either. I'm probably gonna change it.

Timothy_graybill

nbac wrote: »

i like your progress very much!
i build the scene in the udk
as a mini project to work in the enigne
i did not start a wip thread keep it up

looks cool man, I was wondering how long it took you to make.

Serp

It's coming along nicely!

Yeah I think it would fit a lot better if you changed the carpet to something more like the concept. Because you have a modern carpet in an ancient looking room.

*Edit* whoops juts read that your gonna change it anyway.

Flames or smoke would look cool.

nbac

it took not that long but its a very different approach than yours ... lots of the models and materials came with the udk ... i customized a few things for the materials an the modeling done by myself is very lowpoly. its really a work in project to the udk. i like the engine very much and its a lot of fun to work with. what are your plans... a stillimage or an animation ? what render did you use?

theStoff

Wow, that looks really good, just came across this now but through looking at past posted the process behind this is excellent. Is there anything that you plan to still add to this environment?

Timothy_graybill

kosh_fotsirk wrote: »

Wow, that looks really good, just came across this now but through looking at past posted the process behind this is excellent. Is there anything that you plan to still add to this environment?

defanitly , I still have plenty to add. I was working on the throne chair today , It should be done and up here by tomarrow

Serp

Yeah I think it will look better with more natural looking blues and yellows. Maybe more desaturated.

Timothy_graybill

Update finished the throne chair today!

Yeah the lighting is not at all final, and it will probably change dramatically by the time I'm done. Its only there to help me work on the modeling and textureing .

Timothy_graybill

SasoChicken wrote: »

Ah. Nice work on the chair. I don't know why they didnt make those things more comfortable back then :P

An off-topic question, but the clay-render throne made me think of it: why does zBrush always make the edges so ragged until you render?

ha, not sure, maybe to save memory

Timothy_graybill

heres the new wall pieces that I have been working on.

Rurouni Strife

That's just looking exceptional.

DrunkShaman

[speechless look on face]Dude! AWESOME![/speechless look on face]

chrisradsby

Nice work mate, really like where this is going.

Timothy_graybill

SasoChicken wrote: »

[speechless look on face]Dude! AWESOME![/speechless look on face]

btw will there be fire in the little mini-pillars in front of the chairs? that'd be cool.

thanks for the positive feadback everyone. there Will be fire!

jmiles

really cool man.. really enjoying the rocky textures you have going on.. keep it up

nbac

im looking forward to see some fire (and water)
my udk progress

sinistergfx

Really liking the colors in that last shot!

Ged

woah is this the same scene at all? it was a bit too garish and colourful before but thats really nice in udk!

felipefrango

Awesome, it looks so much better in UDK!

Zipfinator

You guys did notice that nbac posted that last UDK pic while Timothy_Graybill's scene is the main attraction in this thread?

Anyway they're both looking nice. NBac you should make your own thread for your scene. It's never good to steal another member's thread.

felipefrango

Dang, my bad. I just quickly browsed through the thread and didn't even realize they were different scenes.

Mazvix

@Timothy: Nice zbrush work man. I assume none of the lighting is done and it is still a big WIP. Few crits that caught my eye: The cieling drapery is REALLY bringing the scene down and it looks like a hanging rug. If you are going to have an already roughed up scene in terms of materials (stone) then you want to have a soft material next to it to differentiate between the different elements in the scene. (sorry if this was repeated in the previous posts)

Also tips for the lighting that might make your workflow easier: Keep EVERYTHING greyscale, then set up your lighting based on the mood you are going for and then from there start adding color bit by bit into your scene to balance the hues out in the scene so it doesn't look so boring and monotone.

GLuck

nbac

yeah sorry for the confusion
i found it interesting because its the same reference and i thought to show/see a different approach would inspire both of us. (i hope thise make sense in english )
best regards

Timothy_graybill

Zipfinator wrote: »

You guys did notice that nbac posted that last UDK pic while Timothy_Graybill's scene is the main attraction in this thread?

Anyway they're both looking nice. NBac you should make your own thread for your scene. It's never good to steal another member's thread.

lol thanks for pointing that out. No worries, I thought it was kind of funny. Nbac your thing is looking pretty bad ass, why don't you hove your own thread. I would love to see it. Feels like its turning into a little friendly rivalry. lol.
I guess I'm just gonna have to work even harder.

Mazvix

Im going to take your advice about the lighting and the rug, so thank for that.

I will have more progress tonight. I've started on the plant life and I think its coming out pretty cool. can't wait to show you guys.

Ged

ah sorry I thought it was some kind of collaboration or someone with 2 nicknames as it does look quite similar

Timothy_graybill

So heres my progress for the day and yesterday. some plants and I changed the lighting to just white lights do try to get the lighting down a little better. I think I could really use a good Environment lighting tutorial so If anyone knows where a good one is Please let me know. also finished the stairs. I think I may have to re do the floor again. i just am not digging it. did get around to the carpet on roof. but I will.

Remeber Lighting temp and needs work. Good Environment lighting tutorial would be really appreciated

Pedro Amorim

i dont get it. is there 2 of youworking on the same scene?
explain plz

Timothy_graybill

I started this thread and other guy notice that he was working from the same concept so he wanted to show me and us.

cholden

Glad you popped open the lid. God beams please.

haiddasalami

@Timothy: Theres eat3d's lighting tutorial and they're 20% off right now through UDN.

nbac

yeah that rocks!your progress is awesome
what renderer do you use? sun light should not have soft shadows a little blue ambi light from the sky and a little more diffuse bounces and your lighting should be done beside the fire light
the foliage looks good too!

Timothy_graybill

updated some things, tweaked around with the lighting, and finished little pond thing.
any suggestions on things I should add are welcome. Im also planing on lighting it as a night scene as well.