Why would it be odd for me to make a comment about salary potential and how tattoos/piercings might correlate? How is that odd?
The OP came asking for employment information and how personal choices might affect his career growth. I often see a lot of similar responses in similar threads to the effect of "It shouldn't/won't matter" or "You don't want to work at a place that is so strict," but I have never seen anyone address the pay ceiling issue and whether or not there is a correlation there.
Is correlation causation? Not necessarily. I merely shared my observation, and again, I am neither condoning nor condemning personal choices such as piercings and tattoos.
I've got 2 16g lip rings and a 16g lebre spike. Piercings and tats don't mean shit. I mean come on, have you SEEN people in the game industry? I've seen some high level leads with bright pink mohawks, some covered in tat sleeves and most everyone in extreme casual wear (flip flops, torn jean shorts, etc).
Unless you're a studio head or in the light of PR, it doesn't matter at all. You work is what matters.
Ive got stretched lobes, both arms sleeved and dress like i'm the Maltese Jay-Z but ive never run into problems at work because I work hard, speak well and act like a professional.... I always try to dress nice and grab a shave before going into a job interview though. I wouldn't trust a place where all the artists looked like a bunch of starch shirted lame-o's...I certainly wouldn't want to work there.
Translation: "Please do not shoot, I am not a evil spirit here to take eat your babies. See they come out and the pictures on my arms tell a funny story about a foolish woman who values freedom over unity and it leads to her fiery death down on my left ass cheek, Oh and look Mao on the other cheek, I forgot that was there. See he dances!"
TheMadArtist: there's some serious game companies out this way, and i can see your point... but i'm curious though... do they bring in the clients for walkthroughs of the facility on a regular basis? if not, then it's more of a personal matter with the superiors... which is really no different than dress code ethics in the work environment... someone doing marketing or insurance calls sitting in a cubicle all day would still be asked to wear khaki's and a button down shirt 4 out of 5 days a week even though no one would see them except for their boss and co workers... it's all so silly imo but it can unfortunately be a real deal breaker for some people.
Yeah, we actually do have either higher up military folks or government folks as guests every few weeks that they give them tours of the facility and come check out what we're up to. My boss could care less but most of the powers-that-be are ex-military or law enforcement so they tend to be a tad on the conservative side.
What was great though was when we were told to dress in slacks and dress shirts for an admiral of the navy that was coming to tour the place, and he shows up in an Hawaiian shirt, khaki shorts and flip flops.
I can't tell if I'm offended by Blaizer or just shocked. Different country I guess...
The ink is lowering my IQ oh noez!
As far as I'm concerned if you make bitching art and you carry yourself in a professional confident manner, tattoos or piercing are not going to hold you back.
(Just read what Canadian ink said and its exactly what he said.)
Does it make a difference? Possibly, it all depends on how far you get into an interview process. If they have two candidates and one is all tatt'd up and pierced and one is not, they may choose the non-tatted up person for the job.
Is it right? No.
It also may be the exact opposite, if the interviewer also has tats and piercings.
As others have said cover that shit up on interview until you get the position and then ask or if you see others you know your cool and in the clear.
Same thing with dress code, interview always wear one step above what you think the company's current dress codes are.
Shorts, then wear jeans and a nice shirt.
Slacks, wear slacks and a nice shirt possibly tie. (haven't heard anyone needing a tie in our industry but.. you get the idea)
And just out of ignorance and why would anyone stretch out their ear lobes? It might look cool now, but 20 years from now it will fall out of favor and you'll just have droopy ear lobes man...
why would anyone stretch out their ear lobes? It might look cool now, but 20 years from now it will fall out of favor and you'll just have droopy ear lobes man...
(boys didn't use to have earrings). All this is like new, like a fashion of these days, a bad one imho, and not common years ago. When i was a child, it didn't exist .
In addition, if a non-service member sailor was involved in and survived a sinking ship, they were often seen wearing an earring in the left ear. There was also a long-held belief that puncturing the earlobe was beneficial to increasing the acuity of eyesight (see acupuncture) or of hearingI][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I. Also, it was a common belief amongst sailors that if their ship wrecked and their bodes washed up on a shoreline, the person to find them would take the earring as payment for a Christian burial. It is because of this belief that many sailors invested quite a bit of money on gold earrings, as they were very superstitious.
Live in the now gentlemen. Maybe it will look fuckin wicked when he's 79
Maybe his grand kids can use them as a swings... If it really bothers him later probably won't. He could get the excess skin tucked or clipped.
Oh the crazy things they'll be able to with our bodies in the future... future... fut..ure... f..u..t..u..r..e [/fading echo]
I didn't have any problems getting a job with my forearm tat - it's just not something that comes up. It's the work and attitude that matter; and while it may be something to be mindful of in other proffesions where stereotypes and ignorance are abound (such as tats seperating the classes), I don't think its something to worry about in our creative industry.
And just out of ignorance and why would anyone stretch out their ear lobes? It might look cool now, but 20 years from now it will fall out of favor and you'll just have droopy ear lobes man...
haha. I get that question a lot. I keep that fact in mind, and like I said, I'm not stretching it to a ridiculous size. I know a lot of people that have gone past the point of no return, and now their lobes will not close naturally. I am not going to go that far, even though its possible to have it fixed.
I keep the future in mind whenever I get a tattoo or stretch my lobes. Which is partly why I started this thread, so I could get an idea of how it would affect me. I do not get a tattoo unless its positive and means something to me and will continue to mean something to me when I'm older. For instance, the tattoo on my left arm simply states "I Love My Life" with the words "Straight Edge" underneath. (For those of you who are unaware of what straight edge means, it means I do not smoke, drink, or participate in casual sex, but that's a whole different subject, lol.) The sleeve I'm going to get on my other arm is going to be dedicated to my family and list their names. So I don't think I will regret either of these tattoos when I am old and wrinkled, haha.
Thanks to everyone who answered, it seems the general consensus is that as long as I act professional and do good work, it shouldn't affect me too much at all.
Oh, and don't smell like a butthole. That's a big one.
(For those of you who are unaware of what straight edge means, it means I do not smoke, drink, or participate in casual sex, but that's a whole different subject, lol.).
I have 5 ear piercings -- two of which are guaged 0's. My ears could heal back if I wanted ... and even if they didn't I can have surgery to put them back to the way they were.
If you are worried about how you are going to look when you are 70, then maybe piercings and tatts are not for you. As for me -- I got these for life. Why cover up who you are?
That being said ... some people are still offended (god bless them) by some piercings and tattoos. If you want a job badly...sure...cover 'em up...but they are going to see them eventually. If a company is not comfortable with your appearance at an interview it's probably not the right environment for you.
Your appearance has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your work. Google puddnhead. He is by far one of the stranger guys I have ever met (bunny suit, anyone?) and I can only hope to be as successful as he is one day.
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The OP came asking for employment information and how personal choices might affect his career growth. I often see a lot of similar responses in similar threads to the effect of "It shouldn't/won't matter" or "You don't want to work at a place that is so strict," but I have never seen anyone address the pay ceiling issue and whether or not there is a correlation there.
Is correlation causation? Not necessarily. I merely shared my observation, and again, I am neither condoning nor condemning personal choices such as piercings and tattoos.
Unless you're a studio head or in the light of PR, it doesn't matter at all. You work is what matters.
请不要拍，我不是一个邪恶的精神，在这里要吃掉你的婴儿。看到他们站出来，我的手臂上的照片说一个愚蠢的女人谁值超过相统一的自由，这导致了她的火热的死亡我的左脸颊屁股，哦，并期待在其他脸颊毛有趣的故事，我忘了这是那里！
Translation:
"Please do not shoot, I am not a evil spirit here to take eat your babies. See they come out and the pictures on my arms tell a funny story about a foolish woman who values freedom over unity and it leads to her fiery death down on my left ass cheek, Oh and look Mao on the other cheek, I forgot that was there. See he dances!"
Yeah, we actually do have either higher up military folks or government folks as guests every few weeks that they give them tours of the facility and come check out what we're up to. My boss could care less but most of the powers-that-be are ex-military or law enforcement so they tend to be a tad on the conservative side.
What was great though was when we were told to dress in slacks and dress shirts for an admiral of the navy that was coming to tour the place, and he shows up in an Hawaiian shirt, khaki shorts and flip flops.
The ink is lowering my IQ oh noez!
As far as I'm concerned if you make bitching art and you carry yourself in a professional confident manner, tattoos or piercing are not going to hold you back.
(Just read what Canadian ink said and its exactly what he said.)
Does it make a difference? Possibly, it all depends on how far you get into an interview process. If they have two candidates and one is all tatt'd up and pierced and one is not, they may choose the non-tatted up person for the job.
Is it right? No.
It also may be the exact opposite, if the interviewer also has tats and piercings.
As others have said cover that shit up on interview until you get the position and then ask or if you see others you know your cool and in the clear.
Same thing with dress code, interview always wear one step above what you think the company's current dress codes are.
Shorts, then wear jeans and a nice shirt.
Slacks, wear slacks and a nice shirt possibly tie. (haven't heard anyone needing a tie in our industry but.. you get the idea)
And just out of ignorance and why would anyone stretch out their ear lobes? It might look cool now, but 20 years from now it will fall out of favor and you'll just have droopy ear lobes man...
lulz QFT.
You're ignorant. Tremendously ignorant.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_sailors_wear_gold_earrings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earring
In addition, if a non-service member sailor was involved in and survived a sinking ship, they were often seen wearing an earring in the left ear. There was also a long-held belief that puncturing the earlobe was beneficial to increasing the acuity of eyesight (see acupuncture) or of hearingI][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I. Also, it was a common belief amongst sailors that if their ship wrecked and their bodes washed up on a shoreline, the person to find them would take the earring as payment for a Christian burial. It is because of this belief that many sailors invested quite a bit of money on gold earrings, as they were very superstitious.
Oh the crazy things they'll be able to with our bodies in the future... future... fut..ure... f..u..t..u..r..e [/fading echo]
Put yourself a pair of earrings here... you will be pointed as GAY.
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Here's the problem with the whole,"what about when you get old? It'll look bad", argument:
You're going to look like a mess when you hit 70, anyway! Will it really matter whether you have tattoos or not?
haha. I get that question a lot. I keep that fact in mind, and like I said, I'm not stretching it to a ridiculous size. I know a lot of people that have gone past the point of no return, and now their lobes will not close naturally. I am not going to go that far, even though its possible to have it fixed.
I keep the future in mind whenever I get a tattoo or stretch my lobes. Which is partly why I started this thread, so I could get an idea of how it would affect me. I do not get a tattoo unless its positive and means something to me and will continue to mean something to me when I'm older. For instance, the tattoo on my left arm simply states "I Love My Life" with the words "Straight Edge" underneath. (For those of you who are unaware of what straight edge means, it means I do not smoke, drink, or participate in casual sex, but that's a whole different subject, lol.) The sleeve I'm going to get on my other arm is going to be dedicated to my family and list their names. So I don't think I will regret either of these tattoos when I am old and wrinkled, haha.
Thanks to everyone who answered, it seems the general consensus is that as long as I act professional and do good work, it shouldn't affect me too much at all.
Oh, and don't smell like a butthole. That's a big one.
I have 5 ear piercings -- two of which are guaged 0's. My ears could heal back if I wanted ... and even if they didn't I can have surgery to put them back to the way they were.
If you are worried about how you are going to look when you are 70, then maybe piercings and tatts are not for you. As for me -- I got these for life. Why cover up who you are?
That being said ... some people are still offended (god bless them) by some piercings and tattoos. If you want a job badly...sure...cover 'em up...but they are going to see them eventually. If a company is not comfortable with your appearance at an interview it's probably not the right environment for you.
Your appearance has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your work. Google puddnhead. He is by far one of the stranger guys I have ever met (bunny suit, anyone?) and I can only hope to be as successful as he is one day.
Speaking of which, Alberto has piercings!
Hoe Tag sounds better ^^