I didn't buy into the marketing and hype at all - I was looking forward to it, but skeptical. I also think it was an amazing movie. I see it's flaws, but I still love it.
Which is cool. I dig the first Transformers movie a lot, as a fun, escapism action film, while being very aware of it's flaws. But hearing some people go on about this film like it's the greatest movie with absolutely no flaws is a bit silly. It's a popcorn flick, not Citizen Kane or To kill a Mockingbird or somethin'...
However, you're in luck. They're making sequels. (no freakin idea where they can go with the plot that they didn't go in this movie. that i want to see)
However, you're in luck. They're making sequels. (no freakin idea where they can go with the plot that they didn't go in this movie. that i want to see)
Me and a bunch of friends were talking about this and Im guessing it would probably go the same route as the first star wars trilogy... whereas avatar 2 is a lot like empire and ends off on a sour note leaving the story to be concluded in the 3rd. If Cameron and the writers were playing it safe as Perna suggested then that would probably be a safe bet as well.
eh... I'm more of the opinion that they told a complete story. Beginning and end. I don't really want to explore the navi culture any more because I'm just not that interested in them. I don't really want the humans to come back and fight the navi again, because I've already seen that and I'd have an unbelievably hard time believing the navi could win again (humans just need to use bio weapons/nukes/etc).
The only story I'd be down to see would be unrelated but in the same universe. Like a war between humans and something scarier than humans. Maybe other humans, and having the way be about these insanely awesome war avatars that crazy scientists make and soldiers pilot.
It looks horrible. My guess is this was rendered back in the films earlier stages cause Jake doesn't even look like Sam Worthington and that creature screams Specularity Overdose
Jake's pretty cool IMHO, it's just a funky angle and different lighting (no direct light source under the trees).
The creature I give you, though; this and the viperwolves really stick out and look completely unrelated to all the other ones. Might have something to do with Cameron designing the big predator and having to derive the smaller one from its design. As you may know, Jim doesn't like anyone messing with his stuff; and he's not even bad at it, having designed the alien queen and the power loader for Aliens himself. But this time, he just didn't get it right IMHO.
the problem is, all of MY favorite parts of the movie came from getting to know neytiri, the na'vi, and pandora. i got to fall in love with all of them, and that is the fun part. everyone likes falling in love, but being in love is boring. like the first time i read harry potter, or saw the movies. there was definitely something exciting about seeing quidditch, or going to diagon alley, how you get your wand, etc... but the sequels don't give you any of that, they just give you stories in the world that slowly gets more and more stale.
now that's perhaps a dumb example, as harry potter movies blow...the same principles still apply. the best parts of avatar cannot be recreated in a sequel, and that magical element is going to be missing.
the very last harry potter movie sucked only 1 cool scene, I liked the one before it with the evil teacher and stuff. More cool scenes less romance! (That's what avatar did)
I don't really want the humans to come back and fight the navi again, because I've already seen that and I'd have an unbelievably hard time believing the navi could win again (humans just need to use bio weapons/nukes/etc).
This could be easily written in story-wise. Given the time it takes to travel to Pandora, and actual distance to the Alpha Centauri system, it could be written in that some time after the ship Jake Sully and the other RDA members were on left Earth, a world war over dwindling resources broke out, further reeking havoc with Earth's ecosystem, resulting in RDA and several world governments sending more spacecraft to Pandora to start a colony at Hell's Gate with the assistance of the pacified Na'vi inhabitants...
...which would be a surprise to them as they'd be unaware of the events that unfolded in Avatar, as it would take at least 4 years for news of what happened to even be communicated back to Earth. So no nukes or bio-weapons because they sent the same contingent of people plus some colonists that they did on Jake's ship.
This could be easily written in story-wise. Given the time it takes to travel to Pandora, and actual distance to the Alpha Centauri system, it could be written in that some time after the ship Jake Sully and the other RDA members were on left Earth, a world war over dwindling resources broke out, further reeking havoc with Earth's ecosystem, resulting in RDA and several world governments sending more spacecraft to Pandora to start a colony at Hell's Gate with the assistance of the pacified Na'vi inhabitants...
...which would be a surprise to them as they'd be unaware of the events that unfolded in Avatar, as it would take at least 4 years for news of what happened to even be communicated back to Earth. So no nukes or bio-weapons because they sent the same contingent of people plus some colonists that they did on Jake's ship.
then type 3 civilization from galaxy federation comes to confront human
for violating indigenous alien rights
Yahoo Movies has a 22 minute long behind-the-scenes look at how James Cameron and co. created the world of Pandora. The feature also contains some footage of the late great Stan Winston talking about the film and what his team contributed.
Yahoo Movies has a 22 minute long behind-the-scenes look at how James Cameron and co. created the world of Pandora. The feature also contains some footage of the late great Stan Winston talking about the film and what his team contributed.
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Which is cool. I dig the first Transformers movie a lot, as a fun, escapism action film, while being very aware of it's flaws. But hearing some people go on about this film like it's the greatest movie with absolutely no flaws is a bit silly. It's a popcorn flick, not Citizen Kane or To kill a Mockingbird or somethin'...
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ps. I still like james horner though.
However, you're in luck. They're making sequels. (no freakin idea where they can go with the plot that they didn't go in this movie. that i want to see)
Me and a bunch of friends were talking about this and Im guessing it would probably go the same route as the first star wars trilogy... whereas avatar 2 is a lot like empire and ends off on a sour note leaving the story to be concluded in the 3rd. If Cameron and the writers were playing it safe as Perna suggested then that would probably be a safe bet as well.
The only story I'd be down to see would be unrelated but in the same universe. Like a war between humans and something scarier than humans. Maybe other humans, and having the way be about these insanely awesome war avatars that crazy scientists make and soldiers pilot.
I can give you a simple word; it actually exists as a completed but cut scene:
Jake's pretty cool IMHO, it's just a funky angle and different lighting (no direct light source under the trees).
The creature I give you, though; this and the viperwolves really stick out and look completely unrelated to all the other ones. Might have something to do with Cameron designing the big predator and having to derive the smaller one from its design. As you may know, Jim doesn't like anyone messing with his stuff; and he's not even bad at it, having designed the alien queen and the power loader for Aliens himself. But this time, he just didn't get it right IMHO.
So it'd be like 3/4 Navi? How many fingers would it have? eye brows?
now that's perhaps a dumb example, as harry potter movies blow...the same principles still apply. the best parts of avatar cannot be recreated in a sequel, and that magical element is going to be missing.
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http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.lunarfilm.co.id/sinetron.php%3Fi%3D104&sl=id&tl=en
oh God -_-
also check the bottom wallpaper image
.................. ( its a google translate, fyi, the title should say : journey with the blue tribe)
Funny stuff.
http://seqmag.com/2010/01/making-of-avatar/
This could be easily written in story-wise. Given the time it takes to travel to Pandora, and actual distance to the Alpha Centauri system, it could be written in that some time after the ship Jake Sully and the other RDA members were on left Earth, a world war over dwindling resources broke out, further reeking havoc with Earth's ecosystem, resulting in RDA and several world governments sending more spacecraft to Pandora to start a colony at Hell's Gate with the assistance of the pacified Na'vi inhabitants...
...which would be a surprise to them as they'd be unaware of the events that unfolded in Avatar, as it would take at least 4 years for news of what happened to even be communicated back to Earth. So no nukes or bio-weapons because they sent the same contingent of people plus some colonists that they did on Jake's ship.
So RDA currently has something like
BUSTED
holy shit, that's hilarious!
...well...wasn't expecting faster than light-speed communication in the Avatar universe...:poly127:
I actually checked the Avatar wikia before posting in case of lurking Avatar fanboys... :poly136:
then type 3 civilization from galaxy federation comes to confront human
for violating indigenous alien rights
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lol im went to far
Here's the link: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809804784/video/17711648
Enjoy!
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