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Just an idea, the small black thumnail isnt the same character it was just the starting point to get to this idea - the bigger dude in gray. Not sure if its a cyborg or a norm I think its has to be cyborg.
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  • Muzzoid
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    hmm cool.

    I like where its going.

    Perhaps try to find some different masses. The large shoulders, large forearms and shins is perhaps the most overdone mass types for characters.
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    agreed muzz, this is only the beginning :)
  • Ged
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    Im trying to figure out which faction to use, not sure if I want norm or cyborg but Im starting to think I want a character thats somewhere inbetween the freakish coolness of venom and the solid techno rock of sector six.

    heres some alchemy doodles

    concepts2.jpg
  • Steve Schulze
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    I think your guy with the mane is the one that's standing out the most at this stage, although the guy next to him has some interesting stuff going on with the forearm armour. Perhaps you could encorporate elements of the two.
  • jerry
    The third one is not very interesting but it has seperb flow, you might wanna exploit that by adding some more interesting elements and keeping the basic structure.
  • Ged
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    yeah I see what you guys mean, I want to use that guy jerry, hes almost the right shape for the mane dude too, so its easy to mash those 2 ideas together.

    then I want the boots from the cyber girl on the top row far rights on him and I need to figure out what to do with the forearms...hmmm

    I know Im slow at uvmapping and rigging/posing so I want to get the concepting completely out of the way in these first 2 weeks cause I was in a terrible rush the last year.
  • ericdigital
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    3 and 6 are my favorites. Like Jerry said 3 has great flow. I like 6 b/c he almost seems like a robotic guerrilla. I could picture him charging like a guerrilla normally would, can't wait to see what you go with!
  • SyncViewS
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    SyncViewS polycounter lvl 13
    I like 3, it has a good silhouette, and in the current pose seems to say: "Even I don't know where to lay my deadly claws!" :)
  • Ged
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    thanks guys, I think Ive got a direction for this, heres 3 possible options for shoulder wear + armour.

    My new computer arrived last night but I didnt order a cpu fan and thermal paste DOh!

    Polycount is disconnecting me alot lately, is it just me or is this site having issues!?

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  • Ged
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    made a start on the one without shoulder pads etc as I can always add that later

    I would still like to know which one out of those 3 shoulder variations people like?

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  • leslievdb
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    I think you should go with one of the upper row from the second thumbnail image
    your latest designs look cool to but they remind me a lot of your entry from last domwar, not that it's a bad thing but something completely different would be cool too
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    you really think its similar? in what way?

    last year was skinny and non armoured with a human/protoss style face and blades inside his arms

    this year is big and beastly fully armoured with robot bits and a wierd sword thing(which might be replaced)

    Ive also got ideas for this characters weapons that I havent sketched yet
  • Kamui
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    Hey Ged, the latest is looking good. I prefer sihouette #1 for the shoulders. 2 is very generic to me and 3 is without any right? Not sure what those 2 poles are but they're more interesting.

    I think what Raven is saying is maybe mix it up by changing the proportions a bit? Maybe this guy could be a LOT bulkier to differentiate?
  • woods
    That last one looks nice, but I think the character could benefit from the proportions being a bit more varied? Also the weapons should be larger. They look kind of like they'd snap if he used them with all that muscle. Maybe its just that thin bit.
  • notebookguy
    nice first to second stage of work
  • Ged
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    good ideas people Im gonna get in there with the liquify and play with his proportions some more later then repaint the messy areas and add colour.

    I want to redesign the breastplate too - its a bit too flat and boring

    I want him to have the proportions and flow of the 3rd dude on my thumbsketches
  • Scrumpy
    furthest left should thumbnail makes him look more futuristic.
  • Kamui
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    Is this guy a norm or a cyborg? he's looking a bit mechanical i think. I think you'll probably get more interesting things out of a cyborg at this state. Get some neat mixes between machine and flesh! I like the 4 eyes, but I really think you should revisit the weapons. Go bigger!
  • coldkodiak
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    coldkodiak polycounter lvl 17
    weapons need some work. General character is promising. Looks cool, keep going!
  • leslievdb
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    Kamui wrote: »

    I think what Raven is saying is maybe mix it up by changing the proportions a bit? Maybe this guy could be a LOT bulkier to differentiate?

    indeed that's what i ment to say
    anyway the style is looking very good already so keep it up :)
  • Ged
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    indeed that's what i ment to say
    anyway the style is looking very good already so keep it up :)

    Kamui"Get some neat mixes between machine and flesh! I like the 4 eyes, but I really think you should revisit the weapons. Go bigger!"

    Thanks guys, this is definitely what Im thinking too - gonna see if I can really push this design

    Ive got a new idea for the chest piece already and Im gonna shrink his head down and push the proportions of the body so that he has more girth(is that the word?). Im thinking hes a big slippery muscly alien cyber dude that hunts down his enemys down like a rugby player looking for a tackle.
  • woogity
    Those antennas or whatever they are on the far left silhouette are very nice i also like the high and tight shoulder design you have going on that one this looks nice so far.


    -Woog
  • Ged
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    hows this? better proportions? I find him more interesting anyway, I still havent done much painting on this guy just liquify - no time for dom war during the week :/

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  • coldkodiak
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    coldkodiak polycounter lvl 17
    those checkin legs with a fatter shoe would work like in the silhouette. Ground him a bit more.
  • Diwan
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    I like your gun armor thing that is sticking right up, very cool design.
  • Ged
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    Im thinking of maybe giving him big robotic claws ala robo-witchblade + that 1st armour with the 2 aerials so it will match that freaky silhouette with the hair and long fingers on the thumbnails. Yeah coldkodiak I might give his legs more weight they are a tad too comical I wanted to push the proportions but I think Ive done that enough.

    Got loads of redesigning armour to do on this guy.

    Thanks for all your help during this creative process guys :)
  • Ged
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    I got my new pc built and working but unfortunately my old network card isnt vista64 compatible so Ive had to plug my old pc in to go on the internets :P

    heres where Im at with the character, I still want to design him a kick ass weapon or sumthin

    concepts7.jpg
  • Kamui
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    Kamui polycounter lvl 10
    lookin good Ged. Btw, doesn't your new motherboard have built in LAN? Just about all motherboards have that now.
  • Ged
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    Kamui wrote: »
    lookin good Ged. Btw, doesn't your new motherboard have built in LAN? Just about all motherboards have that now.

    thanks Kamui, yeah it does have lan but it doesnt have wireless lan and we dont have any lan cables long enough to go all the way downstairs to the router :P so Ive ordered a network card and 4 more gigs of ram, should get it all working on monday :)
  • Diwan
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    Diwan polycounter lvl 13
    mmm 4 more gigs of ram...
    Hey your guy is coming along well!
  • Kamui
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    Kamui polycounter lvl 10
    Ged wrote: »
    thanks Kamui, yeah it does have lan but it doesnt have wireless lan and we dont have any lan cables long enough to go all the way downstairs to the router :P so Ive ordered a network card and 4 more gigs of ram, should get it all working on monday :)

    Ah wireless, that makes sense :)
  • Neox
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    moar hair :D
    liked the initial sketch, maybe it's just then angle but i think a bigegr mane could be cool
  • konstruct
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    Nice one GED those colors are tits!
  • Ged
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    thanks guys, yeah Neox I liked the mane a bit bigger too, the proportions on this guy are probably gonna look quite different in 3D. Thanks Konstruct - Im really enjoying your character too.

    Im currently trying 3Dcoat voxel sculpting quadrangulation to make a basemesh with nice flowing shapes then I will move on to sculpting when the base is done.

    Still having difficulties with vista64 and my 3d drivers :( I havent got internet yet but Im hoping that once I do the vista updates will help.
  • Ged
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    Stil experiencing vista technical difficulties here, I got internet now but I still dont seem to have solved the nvlkddmd.dll crashing problems in games and Ive been to nvlkddmd.com to try all the solutions but nothings working AAAARRRGH!

    to add to that 3dcoat is making wierd artifacts that just get worse every time I hit undo - so I will probably have to wait for the next alpha release of that before I can work on it any further on that idea.
  • notebookguy
    The one with swords looked better
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    The one with swords looked better

    who said he doesnt still have swords?
  • Ged
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    damn I new Vista was bad but this is rediculous. How can microsoft release this pile of crap into the world. I seriously regret installing it on my new pc :( Ive done just about everything in my power to fix it but Im still randomly getting

    "nvlddmkm stopped responding and has recovered"

    it happens after about 20mins of play in far cry 2 and just generally randomly pops up to annoy me while using any app at all.

    I am sooo pissed off right now Ive spent £650 on the parts, a week of building my pc and waiting for parts, then installing software for a weekend and now 2 late nights trying to get this to work and Im still totally screwed!

    this 8800GT ran fine in my other computer with winxp even played through crysis on medium but vista just keeps on managing to crash the card. WTF!!!!!!!!

    crap its late and I have to go to bed...work in the morning :(
  • Ged
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    PC still isnt working perfectly but I decided to just ignore those issues for now if I can

    So I started learning silo cause Im thinking of buying it.

    heres the start of a possible basemesh for my dude - I like to keep the base simple :)
    silo_base.jpg
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    i feel your vista pain, my friend. hopefully windows 7 fixes all the lameness -- until then it's XP for me!

    looking pretty sweet so far. love the color scheme
  • Ged
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    Ged interpolator
    thanks for the encouragement, Im still excited about making this character but my new pc is in for diagnosis and repairs so I have no pc at the moment. I will be straight back on this when I get my pc working :(.
  • Ged
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    Im waiting for an ati 4850 to arrive but I forgot about the long weekend - yes Im an idiot- and I ordered it next day delivery yesterday and couldnt understand why they said it would arrive on tuesday.

    So now Im stuck all of the next 4 days, which would have been perfect time to work on DWIV, with a broken pc that cant even run silo for more than 10 mins without crashing.
  • Ged
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    so after many crashes this is all I have for now

    rylec_model1.jpg
  • Muzzoid
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    Muzzoid polycounter lvl 10
    man that sucks about your rig. I hope you get it sorted really soon, cause i want to see you finish this :/.
  • foreverendering
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    Hi Ged,

    This may or may not be of any help to you but I was having the exact same problem prior to the Dominance War. I was trying to get some upgrades for my PC up and running (including a switch to vista 64) and was constantly getting that blasted error in 3d applications. I tried a ton of different things and ultimately what resolved the problem ( well, sort of ) was removing the 8 gigs of ram I had bought and replacing it with my older 4 gigs of ram. The problem instantly went away and has yet to return.

    It sucks because I have 8 gigs of ram sitting on my desk that I'm not using, and I haven't really had the time to troubleshoot it any further. But, depending on how much ram you have in your machine, maybe you could try reducing it, or if you have any other ram, try switching it out.

    It seriously is one of the most frustrating errors I've ever encountered - I hope you resolve it soon
  • konstruct
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    yeah I really liking those volumes
  • Ged
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    kinda blockin out forms since I seem to be getting away with this without too many crashes, hopefully next week things will be better with my pc

    rylec_model2.jpg

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  • Ged
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    finally got my ati 4850 and got my new pc working wooohoooo!

    so Ive gotten to work on this guy so far most of the lower legs are done and the rest is still just blocked in forms. Im gonna take it all into mudbox when Im done with all the mechanical stuff

    does anyone know why silo sometimes shoots one point/vertex in your model off towards x=0 when you edit an object???

    rylec_model4.jpg
  • konstruct
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