yeah the old skmatter mudbox forums were a good place, hopefully wayne can get a similar community going on his forums, everyone just left the mudbox forums as soon as they were merged with "the AREA". We all know hes a fanboy but hes pretty honest about that
Ditto the skymatter forums, those were the good ol' days when mudbox community had a prime place like Zbrushcentral. Shame on Autodesk for removing it.
his intentions might be good but his art quality doesn't really help promote mudbox in the community.
It's not his job to promote mudbox, that is Autodesks job.
He is putting out FREE training materials for mudbox, and providing a place for people to go and talk and share their work. Not some place to just show off his work, the quality of his doesn't matter, he is teaching workflow and techniques for a program not sculpture and art theory.
It's not his job to promote mudbox, that is Autodesks job.
He is putting out FREE training materials for mudbox, and providing a place for people to go and talk and share their work. Not some place to just show off his work, the quality of his doesn't matter, he is teaching workflow and techniques for a program not sculpture and art theory.
Cool, and more power to him. Maybe this time he'll pull back a bit on the attacks and insinuations that users of a certain other software are all stupid, mindless fanboys. When in reality, autodesk needs their business since they are all using the competition. He's a horrible moderator on the area forums as he tries to wear his own personal hat and inject his personal opinions and bias into that forum and it really makes it stink. That's bad enough when it's already under the stigma of being an autodesk forum. His public postings on other forums are no better. For an 'unofficial' champion of mudbox he really rubs people the wrong way.
Maybe he should consider that the official area forums would be a better place if he changed his approach as a moderator there and acted a little more professional. I don't see that behavior from aurick at ZBC and that is THE official ZB forum. He may drop the hammer a lot more often and harshly but at least the forum is kept clean and focused on zb.
It's not his job to promote mudbox, that is Autodesks job.
He is putting out FREE training materials for mudbox, and providing a place for people to go and talk and share their work. Not some place to just show off his work, the quality of his doesn't matter, he is teaching workflow and techniques for a program not sculpture and art theory.
a tool like mudbox does not really need any tutorials. usually it takes an average 3d artists to learn mudbox in few days.
Ahh old debates never die, they just morph and spreads their ugly tentacles into new threads.
It's no ZBCenteral that's for sure. But then again Mud doesn't need something like that because its not that complex... Seriously if you need tutorials and help with Mudbox you might as well smack yourself in the nuts with something heavy and fast, because we don't need more stupid people around who can't figure out user friendly software, let alone something more complex.
Oh well... maybe it will grow into some cool and worth participating in. I can't say after the last buggy release of Mud2.0 I'm all hawt for it, in fact it pushed me back into the arms of "teh enemy" oh noes!1
But then again Mud doesn't need something like that because its not that complex... Seriously if you need tutorials and help with Mudbox you might as well smack yourself in the nuts with something heavy and fast, because we don't need more stupid people around who can't figure out user friendly software, let alone something more complex.
noes!1
This is another thing that confuses me... he has produced hours and hours of training for it... why? It's a nice gesture, being free and all, but I agree 100% with you on the ease of use. One of the big reasons why people use it is because it's far less complicated than ZB and a huge amount of training simply isn't necessary. But with all the tutorials he's done recently (and apparently FOR mudbox users) you'd think it was the more difficult of the two to use. 0_o
Seriously if you need tutorials and help with Mudbox you might as well smack yourself in the nuts with something heavy and fast, because we don't need more stupid people around who can't figure out user friendly software, let alone something more complex.
Meh, I'm all about learning and teaching myself but you sound pretty dickish saying something like that. I'd say we dont need people with attitudes like that "around"...whatever that means.
yea it does sound dickish, eh. *shrug*
So when did PC get all PC? Who needs a hug?
The point I was trying to make, was that Mudbox was built on the simple principle that you don't need mountains of documentation. What little needed to be written was handled by the original team. Writing a mountain of tutorials for Mudbox is like writing a how to eat Jello guide, its just not impressive. But to each their own.
ha, yeah, I don't see that happening any time in near future. But hey, you never know.
@Companioncube: I agree, that would have been nice. I actually approached a number of people about taking over the community, no one was interested in taking on the responsibility.
Wayne is the man for doing all he does for Mudbox. To my knowledge he doesn't get a red cent from Autodesk for all his work and promotion. Class act all the way.
Wayne is the man for doing all he does for Mudbox. To my knowledge he doesn't get a red cent from Autodesk for all his work and promotion. Class act all the way.
that may be true, but my first impression is that all of this promotes his own DVD's and books on his site. and to be honest i dont see any of his tutorials to contain anything that is not already free information that is available in help files or just from googling.
most of the old tweak members are joining up here.
Awesome man...thanks for the heads up
And I think what Wayne is doing is pretty decent of the guy. Sure he gets self-promotion in the process, but in times like these....I cant hate on the dude. All artists need as much promotion as possible right now. I'm sure that's another debate for another time though.
@kolbyjukes: understand your a busy guy, was good site though, always checking your portfolio site for updates, can't wait to see your Dom War entry this year, makes me scared to enter
He could use some life drawing classes or something, maybe go tear apart cadavers with med students, something like that.
His artwork aside I find his walkabout youtube videos a little bizarre, I wonder about his ego and psychological state I suspect they are fragile, or maybe I'm being a pompous ass (both could be true). Sorry, I know this is off topic, I just don't "get" this guy.
Thanks for the link to the Clay forum that is good news.
ehh sorry I know, I've been working in human services for a long while now, so it comes naturally. He seems like a nice enough guy but the little bit of back story I know about him is that he was homeless and has a tragic past.
Somehow that unfortunate fact is supposed to forgive the fact that he is a not so great artist teaching his "technique" to others. I won't dispute his knowledge of the software, I guess if you want to learn the interface you won't find the tutorials disappointing. I hope his forum does well despite whatever misgivings I have about his artistic talent.
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Now someone just needs to make a replacement for Tweak (rip) already.
And yes Kolby, bring Tweak back please?
your just joking right? hes doing alot for mudbox communtiy
exactly.
his intentions might be good but his art quality doesnt really help promote mudbox in the community.
a bit harsh
the master of anatomy, i swear he can teach you anatomy in 3 hrs, proof
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=221&t=508523&highlight=kurv
It's not his job to promote mudbox, that is Autodesks job.
He is putting out FREE training materials for mudbox, and providing a place for people to go and talk and share their work. Not some place to just show off his work, the quality of his doesn't matter, he is teaching workflow and techniques for a program not sculpture and art theory.
Cool, and more power to him. Maybe this time he'll pull back a bit on the attacks and insinuations that users of a certain other software are all stupid, mindless fanboys. When in reality, autodesk needs their business since they are all using the competition. He's a horrible moderator on the area forums as he tries to wear his own personal hat and inject his personal opinions and bias into that forum and it really makes it stink. That's bad enough when it's already under the stigma of being an autodesk forum. His public postings on other forums are no better. For an 'unofficial' champion of mudbox he really rubs people the wrong way.
Maybe he should consider that the official area forums would be a better place if he changed his approach as a moderator there and acted a little more professional. I don't see that behavior from aurick at ZBC and that is THE official ZB forum. He may drop the hammer a lot more often and harshly but at least the forum is kept clean and focused on zb.
LOL i remember that.
a tool like mudbox does not really need any tutorials. usually it takes an average 3d artists to learn mudbox in few days.
It's no ZBCenteral that's for sure. But then again Mud doesn't need something like that because its not that complex... Seriously if you need tutorials and help with Mudbox you might as well smack yourself in the nuts with something heavy and fast, because we don't need more stupid people around who can't figure out user friendly software, let alone something more complex.
Oh well... maybe it will grow into some cool and worth participating in. I can't say after the last buggy release of Mud2.0 I'm all hawt for it, in fact it pushed me back into the arms of "teh enemy" oh noes!1
also i wanted to let people know there is a new forum dedicated to sculpting here:
http://digitalclay.ning.com/
most of the old tweak members are joining up here.
Spot on.
This is another thing that confuses me... he has produced hours and hours of training for it... why? It's a nice gesture, being free and all, but I agree 100% with you on the ease of use. One of the big reasons why people use it is because it's far less complicated than ZB and a huge amount of training simply isn't necessary. But with all the tutorials he's done recently (and apparently FOR mudbox users) you'd think it was the more difficult of the two to use. 0_o
Meh, I'm all about learning and teaching myself but you sound pretty dickish saying something like that. I'd say we dont need people with attitudes like that "around"...whatever that means.
So when did PC get all PC? Who needs a hug?
The point I was trying to make, was that Mudbox was built on the simple principle that you don't need mountains of documentation. What little needed to be written was handled by the original team. Writing a mountain of tutorials for Mudbox is like writing a how to eat Jello guide, its just not impressive. But to each their own.
ha, yeah, I don't see that happening any time in near future. But hey, you never know.
@Companioncube: I agree, that would have been nice. I actually approached a number of people about taking over the community, no one was interested in taking on the responsibility.
Wayne is the man for doing all he does for Mudbox. To my knowledge he doesn't get a red cent from Autodesk for all his work and promotion. Class act all the way.
that may be true, but my first impression is that all of this promotes his own DVD's and books on his site. and to be honest i dont see any of his tutorials to contain anything that is not already free information that is available in help files or just from googling.
Awesome man...thanks for the heads up
And I think what Wayne is doing is pretty decent of the guy. Sure he gets self-promotion in the process, but in times like these....I cant hate on the dude. All artists need as much promotion as possible right now. I'm sure that's another debate for another time though.
He could use some life drawing classes or something, maybe go tear apart cadavers with med students, something like that.
His artwork aside I find his walkabout youtube videos a little bizarre, I wonder about his ego and psychological state I suspect they are fragile, or maybe I'm being a pompous ass (both could be true). Sorry, I know this is off topic, I just don't "get" this guy.
Thanks for the link to the Clay forum that is good news.
Somehow that unfortunate fact is supposed to forgive the fact that he is a not so great artist teaching his "technique" to others. I won't dispute his knowledge of the software, I guess if you want to learn the interface you won't find the tutorials disappointing. I hope his forum does well despite whatever misgivings I have about his artistic talent.