The Worst Healthy Foods
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http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/15442/the-worst-healthy-foods/
seems like you cant win for losing lol,
seems like you cant win for losing lol,
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all depends on where your trying to head. Nutrition is very individual based.
oh btw, slightly off topic but I found recently the most informative book was the mario lopez workout book. It has nice workouts that dont focus on making you look like arnold, and it has lots of nutrition information/diet plans ect ect. Its a good read.
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No but really I do find that unspoilt things give me the most usefull nutritional value without all the unnecessary stuff I don't want/need.
Interesting read. LOL
Alex
One of the things that hurt people the most in terms of gaining weight is just having a huge meal right before they go to sleep. One of the most healthy things you can eat or rather drink is those protein shakes, they messed up my system pretty bad, my liver didn't like the extra work, and my cholesterol went up very high. I was at the time lifting weights and trying to gain weight. I did gain five pounds. That was it.
So a lot of the "healthy food" is a load of BS.
Alex
The findings of that study showed the immense benefits of homogenized milk in terms of nutritional value, being immensely superior to skim or 2%.
The calorie difference really isn't much either (a small cup was like licking of a bacon strip), but the calcium, vitamins, and various other nutrients taken out when processing made it much more beneficial to drink homogenized.
Your liver didn't like the protein shakes? You were mixing it with vodka, weren't you??
spider has the right idea tho! I eat every 3 hours. god the first week i switchd to that style of eating was like i just quit smoking. i was a dick that whole week haha. But now i cant see living any other way. I just feel better through out the day, no ups and downs with my blood sugar levels. energy is much higher too. aaaanndddddddd body fat will just melt off you. fitness is 30% exercise and 70% nutrition....so ive heard
Sweets have lots of sugar? So does fresh fruit.
The difference is the nutrition that comes along with the food. An apple is about 75 calories and a can of Coke is about 140, so two apples gives your body the same calorific energy as a coke, but which one is healthier?
Thankfully, beer is packed full of vitimins and minerals. FACT. And yeast. And carbs. It's basically liquid bread.
I usually try to keep it simple,reasonable in portion and self prepared. You control your portion and the ingrdients so you have great control over what you eat.
Getting off your lazy and excersising helps too.
Food labeled as "healthy" or "diet" is not.
If your great grandfather wouldn't recognize it as food, you shouldn't either.
Buy foods that spoil (fresh fruits, vegetables, lean meats, etc.).
That's great advice. I recommend:
-Avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup. The 'experts" say it's safe in moderation. BUT, nearly everything in American food now includes it to sweeten taste and encourage brand addition. That's not moderation, and it's difficult to avoid. It's cheap to manufacture. Profits for the company, health problems for you.
-Use oils that are named from the plant they come from. Canola Oil comes from a plant called Rape, and is often genetically modified. Vegetable Oil is often Soybean Oil, or a mixture of many, from various locations. I prefer Olive Oil.
-The fewer the Ingredients, and the easier they are to pronounce...the better.
-Companies, such as Kraft, are selling food with new labels such as "Deli Style", and "Old World Style", and so on. This translates to "REAL FOOD". Get those.
-Move. Stretch. Walk more. Get the body moving and blood flowing.
examples of good and bad of:
protein: good/ seafood, beans, turkey breast, chicken breast, ostrich, beef (100% grass-fed), and eggs. bad/ bacon, sausage, bratwurst, pepperoni, prime rib, fried fish, salami.
fats: good/ wild salmon, olive oil, walnuts, canola oil, flaxseed, cod liver oil, almonds. bad/ shortening, butter, margarine, hydrogenated oil, corn oil, fried foods, cream.
carbs: good/ quinoa, beans, all veggies, all fruits, oatmeal, barley, buckwheat. bad/ white bread, high fructose corn syrup, rice cakes, sugar, white flour, french fries.
In personal diet i dont eat mammals. Im strickly fish and bird. Also i only drink water and certain juices. Ill sneak a soda mayb once a week, but i feel like shit afterwards. I guess im just fighting back those long developed habbits of chugging tons of sodas every day. Once you start a healthy eating regiment, its hard to stop. and thats a good thing! Its been almost 3 years since ive eaten fast food. Im sure my arteries are loveing me for it.
Say your body needs 2800 calories a day to function with no weight gain or loss. If all calories were created equal, there wouldn't be any difference between eating a healthy, balanced diet and chugging 20 cans of Coke with a fistful of vitamin supplements. 20 cans is exactly 2800 calories - anyone wanna try losing weight on that diet?
But it's important to mention, you also won't lose weight eating exactly 2800 calories in healthy foods -- a calorie deficit is necessary to lose weight, but it also won't do it alone with poor nuitrition.
But yeah. Multiple small servings (as much as you can fit in cupped hands every 3-4 hours is a good rule) throughought the day, balance between protiens/cabs/fibers/etc, less carbs later in the day, more protein if your muscles need it, fresh, natural foods like cholden mentioned... As many calories as you need for your goal of losing/maintaining/gaining weight... Good nutrition isn't actually that hard to understand. The only difficult part is doing it.
addendum --
Are you being sarcastic, or do you really have that poor of an understanding of nutrition?
The fact part that a calorie from beer and a calorie from an apple is still a calorie, a measure of energy?
The part about sweets and fruit both containing sugars?
Or sarcastic about asking which is healthier?
No, that's true.
The bit about sugars is technically true, but most people reading it (and judging by your post, probably you) don't actually have any idea what a suger is. They're only thinking of the one, most obvious, 'put in sweets' crystallized table sugar. Apples and a can of coke are as different as apples and a piece of bread, or pastas, or a glass of milk (note that lactose intolerance is not a symptom of a universal sugar allergy. They're not the same thing, they're just all sugars) -- sugars are the core unit of carbohydrates, but the difference in quantity and type is dramatic.
And that makes the notion of them being equally healthy ridiculous.
Of course I didn't think they were equally healthy. I know all about simple and complex sugars and energy release, that was me pointing out that you can't simply compare like for like when comparing the numbers on a packet. I think your statement was just a reworded version of what I said. The 'Which is Healthier?' was a rhetorical question.
If you eat ~2000 calories worth of snickers in a day as a grown male, you will still lose weight regardless of the fact that it is unhealthy.
Not true, necessarily, there's more to it than that.
However, the inverse is true. If you eat 5000 calories a worth of salad and lean meat a day you will still gain weight no matter how healthy it is.
Technically yes, but that's a massive oversimplification of the process, I'm pretty sure it's not whatsoever similar to taking on the same calorie deficit with proper nutrition.
I spent the two last years doing nothing and here I am with more then 80kg (176lbs), and now I'm going 3 times per week to the gym and running sunday morning. At it is actually working pretty well, and with almost no changes on my diets, except for avoiding sodas and eating just a bit less on each main meal.
Of course, some improvements on your meal quality is always welcome, try to avoid fast food, too many cookies and chocolate bars, but I don't really believe on this radical acute change on peoples habits.
Unless you are a big whale addicted to MacDonalds, then you actually have to change some bits
Blanket statements like this don't work without knowing someones base metabolic rate. A sedentary individual with a BMR of 1800, eating ~2000 calories of Snickers per day is on pace to gain weight at around a pound every two and a half weeks.
Losing weight doesn't automatically mean losing fat. In a very restricted calorie situation, the body will catabolize muscle before fat, as it's easier to process. I'm not sure why you're writing what you are... are you suggesting that eating 2000 calories worth of Snickers bars is an acceptable diet plan?
I feel that no matter the rate of your metabolism, that undigestible fats will clog arteries anyway. Still though, reading the back of a food packet gives some suprising results, better fresh than not!
Second step was slowly getting myself off the bad foods i was so acustomed to,soda,fast food and sweets(still working on sweets)
Then the final step was doing excersise weekly,5 times a week currently and changing it up from time to time whenever my body got used to it.
Good healthy weight loss takes alot of time,getting down from 355 to 249 has taken me close to 3 years with a few slip ups on the way. I figure it will take me as many years to lose all of that weight as it did to gain it. Its a slow grinding process (at least in my case) but well worth it.
Also leaving America,especially leaving Houston (fattest city in the U.S) has helped alot too. When i compare to the type of food available in Europe,portions,freshness and availability i dont think it would have been possible for me to lose what ive lost living in Houston still.
So if your serious about being fit & healthy you got to read up and do research.
This guys knows what he's doing and if your skeptical do some research on the products he mentions.
Text interview:
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/davidinterview.html
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQe2HDz03c
Some good stuff to look into and maybe try out:
CocoNut Water Benefits:
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Pumpkin seeds Benefits:
http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/10-health-benefits-of-pumpkin-seeds.html
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There are fruits and vegetables to avoid but you have to do that research yourself, there are way to many to post.
I've been doing some research for a while and will continue because I have been feeling pretty damn good.
Cheese is bad for your intestines, look it up and find out. I hated that news myself cause I was an avid philly cheese steak lover (it was good while it lasted...)
If it isn't 100% organic it's pretty much bad for you... Also look up Detoxification if your a smoker or addicted to anything, try it be deticated to something for 7 days if your not cured of your addiction go back to your old ways.
Enjoy!
Tofu gives you man boobs...
Technically yes, but if you're doing it right one comes with the other.
And it isn't really healthy for a myriad of reasons not to be fit.
Spark
Koo man, glade you asked! first off, i strongly believe nutrition is on par with your physical activities. If you just lay up on the couch all day, your diet would be very different from an active days diet. So with that said. Here is a typical day w/ exercise and diet. Plz keep in mind, im a very active person, and have a very high matabolism, so I eat more than most probly would need to. i average around 3k/3.5k calories a day, just to give an example.
Here goes:
6am i wake up and make breakfast: typically 2 whole egg, and 2 yolkless eggs in an omlet. Toss in turkey and top with salsa. Follow that with a half of a large grape fruit.
by 7am im in the gym. My schedule is mon, wed, thurs, fri, sat. So that gives me two days of rest. I bring with me a protien shake to drink immediately after I work out.
Im back and ready for work by 8:30am.
At 9am I grab a cup of cottage cheese and a little fruit cup to toss in with it for a snack. (Ill eat while i work)
at noon i take my lunch break. A turkey sandwhich on wheat bread with tommatos and lettus. I follow that with the other half of the grape fruit form earlier.
3pm im eating another snack. Cup of yogart and a bannana with penutbutter.
6pm Im eating a dinnerish meal. Something in the ballpark of a salmon filet or chicken breast. With some type of veggy. I prefer broccoli.
9pm Im going for another snack, usually another protien shake. Anything can be suplimented here as long as its a small portion.
Usually asleep around 11ish to repeat in the next day.
Notice the trend, its 3 hour incriments. goes meal, snack, meal, snack, ect ect every 3 hours. This will speed up your motablism, and burn off those extra lbs. Ofcource What burns the most fat off is muscle. SO hit the gym, do a small workout. I super set everything, and keep my heart rate up the whole time. There is absolutely no reason to spend more than an hour in the gym. If you hit it hard, and keep your heart rate up the whole time, intensity will override time spent. Meaning they harder you hit it, the less time you have to spend for the same results.
Also i STRONGLY suggest taking up jogging/running. I really think we should start a polycount running group. I enter 5k races all the time, and absolutely love it. Its only 3 mile run, and its soooooo much fun. Also all 5k races are chip timed so results are posted on the internet for all to see. Would be fun to compare and see whos the fastest desk jokey =D
After that I started only running a few times a week, lifting weights and doing a 1/2 marathon every 4 months or so. I also started eating healthy. I'm not at 135lbs (my middle school weight) and I'm also the strongest I've been ever.
So my plan is just lifting weights now with cardio only every few weeks/months.
I eat:
Instant Oatmeal with 2 scoops of protein and a handful of blueberries and chocolate milk for breakfast.
Almonds, walnuts, and chocolate covered almonds for a snack.
Whatever for lunch (Chipotle, sushi, chicken wrap, doesn't really matter)
Almonds, walnuts, and chocolate covered almonds for a snack.
Chicken breast/Salmon or Turkey burger, mixed veggies, and pomegranate juice for dinner.
I've been at 135lbs for about 4 months now and before that I was 140lbs for about 6 months. I stopped cardio all together till I get up to 150lbs or so. I went from a 36 waist in 2006 to a 29 waist now. Pretty nuts.
Don't make too many changes at once. I would have caved if I did all this stuff at once. Here's some reference:
Spark
I totally agree with Stimpack about the 5k. That's a good distance to do a few times a week. Running is honestly really really boring. The best solution I found was getting one of those small clip ipods (which I've put through the washer twice so far and still works, btw) and listening to audiobooks while I'm running. Running 5k around 20 minutes or so is a good work out.
Another thing that helps is put yourself around people that are in shape or very active. My old company most of the artists were into physical activities so that really helped being able to talk about it at lunch and stuff. Plus you have people that you can lean on for new ideas, tips, or worse case a spotter.
Just remember to not set super high expectations at first. Just set small, attainable goals and go from there. Keep a good log of it too. I wish I would have documented it better. I have before and after. But not a ton of stuff during. Best of luck with it Spark! Just stay motivated.
http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php
Cardio & Running is almost all you need I love it but you need to take joint supplements or eat foods with glucosamine.
It's what I've been doing since I hardly have time to get crazy with working out. I wasn't fat (155lbs / 5' 8") but I didnt like were my fat was going so now my face is thinner and I don't got the double chin and chubby cheeks thing going on anymore Still (155lbs) amazingly so I'm doing something right.
My girlfriend actually saw those pictures, and said the after looked a lot like me, heh.
A question though, aren't nuts in general (and walnuts in particular) pretty rich in fat oils?
I don't know too much about diets and nutrition, but that's something I've always thought. Not that it would matter much to me, as I still don't really gain as much weight as a 'regular' person would with the amounts I eat (and certainly used to eat), but I've been trying to cut down on unhealthy food a lot.
Thats a four year span, and Ive put on 40 pounds. Pretty much all muscle, I dont really have too much body fat. What little I have is stuborn and wont go away haha.
jeffro man dont stop runnin! just eat more! running is so good for you. why not start training for longer races? mayb a marathon? half marathon?
I have to set big goals for myself or i will find a way to talk myself out of training. I compete in triathalons, and am activly training to do my first half ironman. After that Im going for the full ironman, then its onto the 4 deserts race!! obviously this will take me many many years to prepare and complete. Which is why i stay motivated and busy in my workouts.
fitness is a lifestyle, not just a 6 months fix
It's not really rocket science, simply stop dumping junk down your gullet, and balance your computer lifestyle with a physical one. My meals are usually cutting a plate in half between a lean protein source (chicken, steak, fish), a vegetable (brocolli, carrots, etc) snack with mixed nuts and/or fruit and drink water constantly.
Physical training focused towards strength with deadlift, squat, bench, chins, dips, press, the occational clean & press and sprint for explosiveness.
MightyPea: Yes, mixed nuts are a great source of good fats. I also like peanut butter, fish oil and tuna for this.
Lesson: don't slack off for long, its easier to stay in shape then it is to get back into it...
Jeffro, Its the heat from the dryer that's eaten one of my Ipods. Washer, things are good if you let them dry out heh. And yea tunes while running is a must, I run farther without thinking about it. When I don't, I start thinking about things I could be doing and normally end up cutting it short.
Treadmills are a deal breaker for me, for some reason they're really hard on my knees. Pavement or track, no problem.
Exactly. The only extra thing is to be somewhat careful with your calorie consumption -- eg, make sure you don't eat that many mixed nuts unless your acticity level is up near cholden's.
Picking up a sport is an incredibly good idea, too. Whether you're bigger or smaller than you'd like, should make it much easier to reach your goals. Personally i'm getting into martial arts, and find it an interesting, challenging way to (in my case) gain weight. It's surprising how fast you get strong and fit if you're training for a combat sport.
Divide your height by your jollyness, that will give you the amount of goodness your body needs to stay at that jollyness level.