did a bit more work on her clothing and changed some details, the skirt will be alphaed, think i'm going to add the same borderstitching from her neckthingie to the loingcloth too, not sure yet.
And I ordered some books about african tribes, voodoo and gorillas for her summoned beast, heading for a silverback ghost, spirit thingie, so next things to do will be a bit more research.
Sooo cute! I Love the clothes and details.
I think some voodoo stuff would be great to make her appearance dangerous looking, right now she looks just too cute to be threat
awesome sculpt man, the execution is flawless! Could you show what technique you used to model that necklace? Did you make a b/w mask and just pushed the forms???...I would love to know how you pulled that off. In any case, good luck in the war and keep up the cool work!
@wizo: oh that was way easier then you might think, firt of all i just drey lines onto the mesh to definte the flow of her necklet and then I jus used the simple brush and did the basic pearls, and then i used the inflat brush to give them more volume, nothing special, really
Wow, just...wow. This is some absolutely fantastic work you've got here. It's nice to see someone creating a quality piece that deviates so much from the traditional DW entries.
I'll be watching for updates, so keep the awesome coming
very very nice work indeed (as expected :P )
and the hair is quite impressive!
(the pearls on the necklace on her chest (not around the neck) seem a bit rushed compared to the rest tho )
can't wait to see the next update and I'm curious to see the expression of her face on your final piece
@rollin: damn white/twisted would be the normal behavior of eyes of persons under voodoo influence, so i planned on doing it like that for her "fight mode"
@kakikukeko: you're absolutely right, i think i'm not going to achieve the look i want with sculpting so i have to model these pearls, will definitely be way cleaner, but maybe as it is right now, it would work on normalmaps, i'll have to test it before dumping this part
@conte: we'll see how long her protective spells will shield her, but the clericon seams not to be a popular class in this war anyways.
ok i started with her biggest ghost, but well maybe i will have to make him material i'll have to make a quick and dirty lowpoly test to play around with the additive shaders in crysis.
Congrats for going this route! I really hope you will finish that one and polish it as much as you want. It will be a great contrast compared to all the numerous demonic/badassic entries.
@pior: i hope i can make it in time, depends on the upcoming workload
@Asmuel: i hope i can get her with like 3-4k and do her abilities with the rest i'm currently thinking of not giving him feet, so he would be more floatng over her, which might work better with the idea of him beeing produced by her fantasy. But this totally depends on the shaders i can use, as we're not allowed to create our own i have to look into crysis' shaders to see if i can get a ghost/spirit like additive shader. If not i'll have to change the theme to not be summoned, but nature so he'd be a real gorilla, but that tamed/mount thingy is just my backupplan, i hope i'll not have to make him material.
@Razorbladder: i knew that a lot of people joining this war wouldn't like the concept, but i wanted to go a different path on this challenge and not do what like 70-80(or even more) percent of the participants do, i just didn't want to do another dark, evil, demonic, uberbig monsterthing. And as said, she's no warlord, she's a cleric, she doesn't have to be a asskicking evil chick to banish, heal or protect people.
wow an other amazing update..
about your concept, I think it's a good decision too.. But right now I'm missing something to tell me that the background is set in the (far) future.. So far, it looks like it's nowadays.. So I still can't wait the next update to see how you'll manage this..
The question i was asking myself in the beginning was, how futuristic is the future after the destruction of all machines and i thought having tribes going back to the roots, living in peace with nature, going back to ancient magics would be a nice idea.
And when i look at a lot of the best pieces in this contest, most doesn't look futuristic at all, we have a lot of medieval themed stuff and lots of organic fanatasy armors.
So I think having a eartbound, close to nature party doesn't fight the idea of the battle in the future at all. There are no machines, there is no hightech, there is not even steampowered machinere, nothing that's futuristic, so i thought of two ways, either having "old" hightechstuff, missused like parts of machinery beeing used as clothing, or having something more natural. I decided to go the natural path, as it would be more unique in this challenge
hmm I understand your thinking..
(still I wish there would be just one or two details to give a tip about the background :P )
Anyway, I can't wait to see your final, as I'm sure it will be
one of the best, technically AND artistically..
SEKNeox, I thought I had commented on this thread before, but guess I intended to and go sidetracked:) Awesome entry is all I have to say, and the modeling is superb, with a cartoon/badass feel to her. Really looking foward to what your piece turns out to be.
Looks like we were thinking alike on this one. Your entry looks really nice. Top 10 so far as far as I`m concerned. I hope the judges won`t mind some of the entries not looking death-kill-black metal-big di.. sword I mean.
I have no critique even, looking forward to that ghost.
Would be really nice if you could pull it off making it look really like something a child would dream up.
@kakikukeko: i understand what you mean, and maybe i can come up with something, maybe her artifact will have more modern influences, and maybe i'll exchange parts of her necklacestuff with 6sided bolts but first of all i have to take care of the overall polycount, to even consider that. I#m not quite sure with the futuristic stuff though, could fight the rest of the design
@vitor: if i get a ghostshader the shading whon't be too hard, as it's not gonna need real fur shading, just the appeal of fur, buit i have to take a deeper look into the cryengine, didn't find what i need yet. if i don't find a real sollution i might be out of this contest, because not beeing able to tweak shaders via nodes really blocks me, as i already know what i'd do in U3 but i'm not allowed to.
ok here's another, this time very boring, update
lots of things to tweak, the polycount might already be too high, so i guess i should takee care of some facial polies, but i want her to be able to do some facemorphs, so i can't remove too much... have fun and good night
well at least you can remove a few polys in the ears .. I doubt she will have some facial animation around there
(maybe on the toes too.. but let's see the rest first! )
nah ears need at least a little mesh for form, i think there is nothing worse then a character with a good face but flat ears, a normalmap just cant turn a plane into an ear.
but maybe i can remove the upper row of the toes, so the silhouette will still be readable, we'll see
as i didn't find a good premade ghostshader (again, that rule sucks) , i played a bit with my initial backupplan to let her summon the creatures from the ground...
meh i'm far away from beeing happy with this guy, right now it's just cheap detailling, ok the form will be better readable once the textures are on it and i#ve got some Ao going on, but the overall look is kinda boring... i think i'll have to do a try with some sort of bushgrass to replace his fur, but i kinda think a whole stone gorilla is just boring
Ok as said before, i'm totally unhappy with the direction i went because of issues i had with the rules of this challenge, so i decided to not go on with it for this challenge i'm going to work on Nia and i'm going to work on her silverback but i'm not going to try to fit in the rules, no matter what...
good luck to anyone participating, can't wait to see the finished works but i'm out... sorry, but i think Nia will do better on her own with aher own shaders, polycount and better tuned textures for just herself
Sad to hear that Neox, but I think in the end you'll be able to do a lot more outside of the rules, and you'll be happier with the result. Bitchin sculpting, and I hope to see this finished, DW or not!
I also (much) prefer your previous version of the gorilla so I really understand how you must feel... do what you think is the best for this piece, without thinking about the rules.. you should still try to submit it at the end tho.. who knows good luck
I agree with Vitor on this and would like to add:
This competition is for people to learn and have fun. If your not doing one of the two than just do your own thing. You have eye popping modeling skills.
Idea:
What if the tribe your girl is from has actually rejected technology even though they live in the future? Thus they live off the land old school style and become more in tune with nature. Still fits what the DOW3 rules want I think and works with the cool stuff you have going here. Either way it looks like Polycount will back you either way. Keep going your stuff Rocks!
yeah sad to hear, but man, I totally agree, make it fit your standards, not the contest's, the main goal is to end up with a piece you can be proud of, not with something you had to tone down/castrate/adapt because of some rule, it's meant to be for fun, restrictions sound more like work .
but please keep updating whether you end up submitting or not, this is an awesome piece and I'd love to see it finished.
@kakikukeku: don't think i'm going to make it in time, and obviously breaking the rules wouldn't bring me anything for the contest :P
@slingshot: no idead to still fit it into the rules, please i had enough of those
@vahl: here's the update, but having it in the normal forums would better i guess
changed some things in his face, weathered it a bit and worked on his body, going crazy with all that fur.. and i already changed some parts of the fur, especially forearms and deltoids, but was to lazy to capture new screenies
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did a bit more work on her clothing and changed some details, the skirt will be alphaed, think i'm going to add the same borderstitching from her neckthingie to the loingcloth too, not sure yet.
And I ordered some books about african tribes, voodoo and gorillas for her summoned beast, heading for a silverback ghost, spirit thingie, so next things to do will be a bit more research.
I think some voodoo stuff would be great to make her appearance dangerous looking, right now she looks just too cute to be threat
@wizo: oh that was way easier then you might think, firt of all i just drey lines onto the mesh to definte the flow of her necklet and then I jus used the simple brush and did the basic pearls, and then i used the inflat brush to give them more volume, nothing special, really
and schande über dich .. one of the foot-cuffs is un-sculped *G*
and maybe give her eyes later some weird touch (maybe something more then the usual all-white) ?!
I'll be watching for updates, so keep the awesome coming
and the hair is quite impressive!
(the pearls on the necklace on her chest (not around the neck) seem a bit rushed compared to the rest tho
can't wait to see the next update
I hope she'll be able to endure on the battlefield at least one minute, though.
@rollin: damn white/twisted would be the normal behavior of eyes of persons under voodoo influence, so i planned on doing it like that for her "fight mode"
@kakikukeko: you're absolutely right, i think i'm not going to achieve the look i want with sculpting so i have to model these pearls, will definitely be way cleaner, but maybe as it is right now, it would work on normalmaps, i'll have to test it before dumping this part
@conte: we'll see how long her protective spells will shield her, but the clericon seams not to be a popular class in this war anyways.
ok i started with her biggest ghost, but well maybe i will have to make him material i'll have to make a quick and dirty lowpoly test to play around with the additive shaders in crysis.
lots of stuff to do
just looked onto the basemesh, have i love zbrush xD
http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/domwar/nia_kong_001a.jpg
Good luck!
@Asmuel: i hope i can get her with like 3-4k and do her abilities with the rest i'm currently thinking of not giving him feet, so he would be more floatng over her, which might work better with the idea of him beeing produced by her fantasy. But this totally depends on the shaders i can use, as we're not allowed to create our own i have to look into crysis' shaders to see if i can get a ghost/spirit like additive shader. If not i'll have to change the theme to not be summoned, but nature so he'd be a real gorilla, but that tamed/mount thingy is just my backupplan, i hope i'll not have to make him material.
@Razorbladder: i knew that a lot of people joining this war wouldn't like the concept, but i wanted to go a different path on this challenge and not do what like 70-80(or even more) percent of the participants do, i just didn't want to do another dark, evil, demonic, uberbig monsterthing. And as said, she's no warlord, she's a cleric, she doesn't have to be a asskicking evil chick to banish, heal or protect people.
about your concept, I think it's a good decision too.. But right now I'm missing something to tell me that the background is set in the (far) future.. So far, it looks like it's nowadays.. So I still can't wait the next update to see how you'll manage this..
And when i look at a lot of the best pieces in this contest, most doesn't look futuristic at all, we have a lot of medieval themed stuff and lots of organic fanatasy armors.
So I think having a eartbound, close to nature party doesn't fight the idea of the battle in the future at all. There are no machines, there is no hightech, there is not even steampowered machinere, nothing that's futuristic, so i thought of two ways, either having "old" hightechstuff, missused like parts of machinery beeing used as clothing, or having something more natural. I decided to go the natural path, as it would be more unique in this challenge
Its been 1,000 years, anything could of happened. So your concept works 110% for me.
been loving your art
looking forward to more
(still I wish there would be just one or two details to give a tip about the background :P )
Anyway, I can't wait to see your final, as I'm sure it will be
one of the best, technically AND artistically..
realy like this unusual approach
and my pc is also not very happy about all this subd stuff going on here and there *G*
Spark
I'm looking forward to the final version!
I have no critique even, looking forward to that ghost.
Would be really nice if you could pull it off making it look really like something a child would dream up.
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@kakikukeko: i understand what you mean, and maybe i can come up with something, maybe her artifact will have more modern influences, and maybe i'll exchange parts of her necklacestuff with 6sided bolts but first of all i have to take care of the overall polycount, to even consider that. I#m not quite sure with the futuristic stuff though, could fight the rest of the design
@vitor: if i get a ghostshader the shading whon't be too hard, as it's not gonna need real fur shading, just the appeal of fur, buit i have to take a deeper look into the cryengine, didn't find what i need yet. if i don't find a real sollution i might be out of this contest, because not beeing able to tweak shaders via nodes really blocks me, as i already know what i'd do in U3 but i'm not allowed to.
@theargylekid: no fez, thats for sure :O
ok here's another, this time very boring, update
lots of things to tweak, the polycount might already be too high, so i guess i should takee care of some facial polies, but i want her to be able to do some facemorphs, so i can't remove too much...
(maybe on the toes too.. but let's see the rest first!
but maybe i can remove the upper row of the toes, so the silhouette will still be readable, we'll see
BACKUP?!!
dude that shoulda been ur primary!
its awesome!
good luck to anyone participating, can't wait to see the finished works but i'm out... sorry, but i think Nia will do better on her own with aher own shaders, polycount and better tuned textures for just herself
This competition is for people to learn and have fun. If your not doing one of the two than just do your own thing. You have eye popping modeling skills.
Idea:
What if the tribe your girl is from has actually rejected technology even though they live in the future? Thus they live off the land old school style and become more in tune with nature. Still fits what the DOW3 rules want I think and works with the cool stuff you have going here. Either way it looks like Polycount will back you either way. Keep going your stuff Rocks!
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but please keep updating whether you end up submitting or not, this is an awesome piece and I'd love to see it finished.
@dfacto: workin on it
@vito: exactly
@kakikukeku: don't think i'm going to make it in time, and obviously breaking the rules wouldn't bring me anything for the contest :P
@slingshot: no idead to still fit it into the rules, please
@vahl: here's the update, but having it in the normal forums would better i guess
changed some things in his face, weathered it a bit and worked on his body, going crazy with all that fur.. and i already changed some parts of the fur, especially forearms and deltoids, but was to lazy to capture new screenies
@kakikukeko: I'll let him do an extra pose showing you his lovely furry butt :P