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Twist Bone Question "yet once again" (Simple?)

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oXYnary polycounter lvl 18
You know, I think I might have be weighting and constraining helper bones backwards.

Sooo.

When you have a biped, and instead of having extra useless bones, you only add 1 or 2 twists and weight the twist and the main bone (versus just the twists). Does most of the twist's weighting take place at the beggining or end of the joint?

Up to now I have been weighting the main bone closer to the origin joint and the twist where it connects.. example

(weighting using original bone as well as twist)

Upper Arm
Upper Arm twist
* (Helper Constrains to Upper Arm Twist and Lower Arm)
Lower Arm
Lower Arm twist 1
Lower Arm twist 2

OR is it supposed to be weighed like this?

Upper Arm Twist
Upper Arm
* (Helper constrains to Upper Arm and Lower Arm Twist 1)
Lower Arm Twist 1
Lower Arm Twist 2
Lower Arm

Since the twist is only taking 50% of the joint.. I'm wondering if I have been doing it backwords.

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  • Rick Stirling
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    Rick Stirling polycounter lvl 18
    Neither

    Shoulder is here
    Upper arm Twist - not as much as the arm
    Upper Arm
    Elbow is here
    Lower Arm
    Lower arm twist - takes rotation from the hand


    The hand can rotate just more than 270 degrees. Try it. At the same time the shoulder is rotating only a few degrees. The elbow does less than 120 degrees.



    The two bones and two twists are simply sharing that rotation out.
  • oXYnary
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    oXYnary polycounter lvl 18
    Ok so to reiterate what you said.

    Shoulder
    Upper Arm Twist
    Upper Arm
    * (Elbow Helper constrains to Upper Arm and Lower Arm)
    Lower Arm
    Lower Arm Twist 1
    Lower Arm Twist 2

    I assume the leg works the same way?
  • Rick Stirling
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    Rick Stirling polycounter lvl 18
    Yup.

    Is the elbow helper just there to take 50% of the two arm bones, to hold the shape on the elbow?

    Legs are the same - the calf twist takes twist motion from the foot.
  • oXYnary
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    oXYnary polycounter lvl 18
    [ QUOTE ]
    Yup.

    Is the elbow helper just there to take 50% of the two arm bones, to hold the shape on the elbow?

    Legs are the same - the calf twist takes twist motion from the foot.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Yes, and thanks, already its looking better. smile.gif

    You guys are gonna hate me when I get full on with the facial rig...
  • Rick Stirling
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    Rick Stirling polycounter lvl 18
    Facial rigs? Heh.

    Erik!
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