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  • Mark Dygert
    Holy ad-jack and pop ups Batman!

    Thats the first time I have ever seen an ad redirect to another page while I was mid way thru the article. Then I had to fight 2 pop ups to get back to the page to finish reading. For those of you not wanting to wade thru that crap, I'll just quote it since its short a sweet.

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    Seagate's HAMR to change the face of gaming industry?
    Posted Jan 03, 2007 at 02:04AM by Ryan A. Listed in: News Tags: Seagate, nanotube, HAMR
    hdWe are all familiar with microtransactions. For all its worth, we could be seeing here the future of videogaming which is digital distribution. It would be remembered that back in July of last year, manufacturer Seagate patented HAMR or heat-assisted magnetic recording that could have drastic impacts to the industry.

    HAMR, if you're not well familiar with it, is a technology based on nanotube lubrication to allow the read/write head of a disk to get closer to the surface and store more information. It allows a total number of 300 TB of information on a standard 3.5" drive and that would be roughly around 6,144 50GB Blu-ray discs.

    Seagate disclosed that HAMR is just the first of a two part process. The company's head of Interfaces and Architecture, Eric Reider, explained:

    HAMR helps with the writing process. Bit patterning allows us to create the media. Each bit is represented by an island of about 50 magnetic grains, but these patches are irregularly shaped, like ink on newsprint. By chemically encoding an organized molecular pattern onto the platter's substrate at the moment of creation, however, HAMR can put a single bit on every grain.

    We quite honestly didn't catch most of that but in short, they've perfected the technology. They mentioned further that this technology is expected to become widely available by 2010 which is rather interesting because we're all expecting a batch of new gen of consoles by then.


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  • Thegodzero
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    One HD to store them all, and forever entwine them?

    It would rock to see mass digital distribution of games on consoles. In the case of the new xbox, i could see it working as long as with in your game profile was a list kept on MS's huge hard drives of what games you own so when you have to get a new consol when your breaks you don't loose all your games, you just have to redownload them. With that they could even redownload all your games in the background after you got back your first game. The order of the download could be in the order of what was last played and most played.
  • sledgy
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    Sorry about that, I didn't notice much browser-flak when I viewed it. It looks like alot of the commenters on the page are pretty incredulous about the quoted 300TB size. I can't divulge details of course but it's true.
  • Joao Sapiro
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    this also scares me, since a scratch would make you lose like 5 gigs of data lol.
  • hawken
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    yeah scratch my HDD you numbskull
  • acc
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    Drives getting bigger.
    Games getting bigger.
    More files being distributed online.
    Internet... not much faster than it was 10 years ago.

    1TB download = ~31 years of non-stop downloading based on the average speed I get over cable, assuming the server is relatively stable.
  • Toomas
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    Err its more for downloading porr than games anyways.
    gee 1TB per 31years?
    My d/l has gone up almost 100 times in like 6 or 7 years.
  • arshlevon
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    Drives getting bigger.
    Games getting bigger.
    More files being distributed online.
    Internet... not much faster than it was 10 years ago.

    1TB download = ~31 years of non-stop downloading based on the average speed I get over cable, assuming the server is relatively stable.

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    well right now there is no reason to have faster internet, and there have been lots of reports of super fast internt, like this one, with a transfer rate of 2 gigs a second
    here
  • Marine
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    300tb is an awful lot of porn...
  • PfhorRunner
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    300tb is an awful lot of porn...

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    Do we have enough women?
  • Thegodzero
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    300tb of porn would cause the need for HD porn and super HD photo porn. You know so its high enough res so that you can zoom in so far that your looking at the specular of the individual hairs... Now thats next gen!
  • acc
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    well right now there is no reason to have faster internet, and there have been lots of reports of super fast internt, like this one, with a transfer rate of 2 gigs a second
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    You sorta missed both of my points.

    1) If digital distribution goes big, there will be a reason for the internet to be faster because games and movies are continually getting bigger. Just think about downloading a full blu-ray disk on an everyday cable connection. Hell, go better than an average connection. 50GB at 500KB/s. Maybe I'm messing up my math, but I've got that taking over 27 hours.

    2) Of course there are faster connections out there. But I don't have it. And the vast majority of the world doesn't have it. And there doesn't seem to be any plans to bring it to many places any time soon. Great, 20 000 houses in Britian get the super-net. Meanwhile, North America gets to lead the digital distribution charge with a lot of our population still on 56k.
  • arshlevon
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    the 300tb drives arent going to be available till 2010, so i guess i still dont see your point.
  • acc
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    You say 2010 like that's far away.

    3 years from now most people are still going to be stuck on 56k/Cable/DSL, all of which are going to run the same speed as they do now. However, digitally delivered content is going to be much more prevalent and much larger.

    The size and amount of content being delivered is outpacing our ability to deliver it to everyone but a very small minority of people.
  • dfacto
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    Hard drive crashes are going to hurt a lot more in the future. :P
  • hawken
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    well right now there is no reason to have faster internet, and there have been lots of reports of super fast internt, like this one, with a transfer rate of 2 gigs a second
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    You sorta missed both of my points.

    1) If digital distribution goes big, there will be a reason for the internet to be faster because games and movies are continually getting bigger. Just think about downloading a full blu-ray disk on an everyday cable connection. Hell, go better than an average connection. 50GB at 500KB/s. Maybe I'm messing up my math, but I've got that taking over 27 hours.

    2) Of course there are faster connections out there. But I don't have it. And the vast majority of the world doesn't have it. And there doesn't seem to be any plans to bring it to many places any time soon. Great, 20 000 houses in Britian get the super-net. Meanwhile, North America gets to lead the digital distribution charge with a lot of our population still on 56k.

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    ACC you are talking out of your arse

    BT (british telecom) just made it's 10 millionth Broadband connection in the UK, and that's just one provider of many.

    Read and learn:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6228367.stm

    Internet speed not changed in the last 10 years? Yeah, only in your crack pipe.

    "super internet" is dependent on hardware only
  • Mongrelman
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    300tb is an awful lot of porn...

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    Do we have enough women?

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    We have animals.
  • arshlevon
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    300tb is an awful lot of porn...

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    Do we have enough women?

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    We have animals.

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    And children!
  • cochtl
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    300tb is an awful lot of porn...

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    Do we have enough women?

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    We have animals.

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    And children!

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    And bacteria!

    I want me some aseXXXual orgies of mass proportions!!!
  • PfhorRunner
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    NSFW!!!!







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    Oh and ACC, I can guarntee you that i've already downloaded a TB... I have a cable connection, and I havn't lived for 31 years... wtf are you talking about? Not to mention comcast keeps upgrading the cable around my area every 4-6 months, at one time giving us more than a 0.3mb/s boost!

    10 years ago? I was 9. puts me at 4th grade, so we just got DSL in our area. I'm sorry to say, but the cable that was offered then probably wasn't NEARLY as fast as it is today.
  • Justin Meisse
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    Broadband quality isn't really consistent in the US and it sucks compared to the rest of the world. In 7 years I think my DSL speed has increased maybe 2.5 - 3 times in speed and I pay about $50 a month for it. 10 years ago 56k was as fast as you can get in my area.
  • flaagan
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    Part of the problem with "broadband" in the US is that the FCC's definition of a 'broadband connection' is considerably less than that of countries such as India. I forget the exact difference, but considering the fiber optic lines already in place and those being installed...
  • Michael Knubben
    I'm more worried about the speed of usb/firewire than internet, really. It's allready a huge drag to drag files from an external hd to your pc, backing up is not going to be any fun with this
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    Lookit all them tendrily bits going into each other!!..!...
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    I'm more worried about the speed of usb/firewire than internet, really. It's allready a huge drag to drag files from an external hd to your pc, backing up is not going to be any fun with this

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    RAID.
  • hawken
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    I'm more worried about the speed of usb/firewire than internet, really. It's allready a huge drag to drag files from an external hd to your pc, backing up is not going to be any fun with this

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    usb2 / firewire? my firewire drives are bustin
  • HonkyPunch
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    DOn't forget robots! With their shiny, mettaloid robo-ginas!
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