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Sony: Nobody will ever tap full potential of PS3

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  • flaagan
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    So Sony will be to blame for when the world's silicon supplies run out due to wasted materials on chips! (and yes, I know the idea of silicon running out is not exactly possible)
  • TomDunne
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    i was talking to a fellow who's in electrical enginnering .. his friend works at IBM and they've investigated the CEll processor on the PS3.

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    His friend may be an electrical engineer, but he's not too fucking bright. Sony was one of *three* development partners on the Cell processor. Know who the other two were? Toshiba and, you guessed it, IBM. If the Cell processor isn't designed properly, dude's friend has his own company to blame - IBM was responsible for the primary chip architecture, and they own the patents for all of its new technology.

    Not dissing you, Fusey - just calling BS on this one. There's plenty of shit that Sony's done wrong with the PS3, but not this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_architecture
  • Fuse
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    [ QUOTE ]
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    i was talking to a fellow who's in electrical enginnering .. his friend works at IBM and they've investigated the CEll processor on the PS3.

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    His friend may be an electrical engineer, but he's not too fucking bright. Sony was one of *three* development partners on the Cell processor. Know who the other two were? Toshiba and, you guessed it, IBM. If the Cell processor isn't designed properly, dude's friend has his own company to blame - IBM was responsible for the primary chip architecture, and they own the patents for all of its new technology.

    Not dissing you, Fusey - just calling BS on this one. There's plenty of shit that Sony's done wrong with the PS3, but not this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_architecture

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    i hear ya verm .. but i did say "the designer didnt follow the instructions properly" which leads me to believe that somewhere in the chain of design/production someone at (perhaps Sony?) didnt follow the guidelines properly.
  • Toomas
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    You said that it has poor yeild rate, i doubt it very much that Sony interfers with the manufacturing process of chips.
  • thomasp
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    also, isn't it the usual thing that the production process of those chips get's refined over time? even more so if it's a radically different design?

    way too much attention these days regarding everything ps3. smile.gif
  • notman
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    I was talking to an engineer at work and he told me TI (Texas Instruments) informed him that they have a very low yield rate on all new chip manufacturing. It's expected. As they refine techniques, the yield gets better and gets to near 99% yield eventually.
    I think the blu-ray is the bigger problem. They should have skipped on it and went with DVD with a blu-ray upgrade like XBox did.
  • KDR_11k
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    30% yield is much higher than I expected, I think I heard figures around 5% (though that may be for Cells with all 8 SPUs intact, Sony only requires 7 intact which means they can still use chips that are slightly defective). I thought it was common knowledge that all chips have low yield initially. What's hurting Sony more is the low yield on their bluray laser diodes.
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