low poly model help

Jalechah

hi all, im new here and have just started modeling in 3ds max 6. heres what iv done so far

its a low poly model of Zack from ff7.although its no way near finshed i would like some help on how to make it look better. i like critism but just dont destroy me coz of my crapness lol

Joseph Silverman

Welcome to polycount.

Doesn't look that bad so far, how about a close up (with wireframe) of the face?

Jalechah

thanx. this place looks really kool. and is this what u ment? or want the wireframe more distinct?

Rick Stirling

See those horizontal and vertical gridline you have in the face? Those are bad. Why?

When you try to animate that, it'll be a mess.

Laying out the edges to correspond with the flow of bone and muslce makes it easier to deform, and also much easier to model.

Jalechah

ah yes, i see whats wrong with it. and thanx 4 showing that pic, itll help alot. and while im fixing up the face anything u can show thatll help the arms?

Joseph Silverman

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Ben Mathis' lowpoly modeling tutorials are great for beginners, if you haven't seen them: http://www.poopinmymouth.com/tutorial/tutorial.htm

Might be something in there that helps you with the arms.

Jalechah

The site is helping a lil, but i would prefer a pic of an arm like the 1 above for the head so i can know how the arm muscles are ment to flow.

almighty_gir

best thing you can do there, is find some anatomical reference, and actually look at muscle structures. or even to an extent, look at some anime work. it tends to be hyper defined, but itll show you the main blocks youll be wanting to model in low poly art.





stuff like that.

dkorch

similar to what the previous post said in order to find good muscle structure, and what it is suppose to look like you must find good reference...go buy an anatomy book, scan in some pages model them, go to www.google.com or www.corbis.com, and type in (arm, leg, whatever) anatomy.

2nd of all, from now on, dont look at anime for anything other then pure visual entertainment. anime is a style based of another style, and often times based of another style, and another style, and another style....get the drift? you wont learn anything usefull to you at your level from anime, so dont look at it for reference.

other then that its a good first model, just remember edge flow and to think of the piece as organic, and organic things dont have 90 degree angles, so niether should your organic model.

good work, keep it up!

Joao Sapiro

i have to agree and disagree with dkorch .

the only part i disagree is "dont look at anime for anything other then pure visual entertainment."

anime in faces etc is terrible for reality etc, but i think it is a good resource for proportions , etc , a great game where i see the best mix of anime to 3d is dragon ball Z budokai shin , they not only made great job on the overall anatomy as they also ot the best clean models.

Good anime CAN be made on CG , it requires other type of study, if you want to learn realistic then yes, dont go for anime at least on the faces , but anime can help you alot because the artists also have anatomic rules.

Lain

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i have to agree and disagree with dkorch .

the only part i disagree is "dont look at anime for anything other then pure visual entertainment."

anime in faces etc is terrible for reality etc, but i think it is a good resource for proportions , etc , a great game where i see the best mix of anime to 3d is dragon ball Z budokai shin , they not only made great job on the overall anatomy as they also ot the best clean models.

Good anime CAN be made on CG , it requires other type of study, if you want to learn realistic then yes, dont go for anime at least on the faces , but anime can help you alot because the artists also have anatomic rules.





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I have that game for PSP heh. It is awesome to see another begginer! I am downloading Maya 7 from the website as I post this .

Jalechah

ok i think iv finaly fixed the flow of polys, still need 2 do some more stuff tho. but here it is

Jalechah

woops, sry i edited my last post instead of making a new 1. well theres an update ^^

Jalechah

heres an update on my model, is there anything that looks wrong or could use fixing?

Joao Sapiro

show us a wire

Jalechah

well heres a pic, not the best quality. if u want me 2 zoom in on a spot just ask

Ruz

upper arm seems very short

Joao Sapiro

did you model those hands ?

Slaught

Standard Jedi Knight 2/3 hands.

Jalechah

yeh i admit i didnt make the hands. and they r from jk3. ill try n make the upper arm a lil longer

Jalechah

ok im upto skinning the model. but im having alot of trouble. when i did a perfect circle it turned out like this

wat could be causing this?

aniceto

could just be the viewport filtering, or does it look like that when you render it as well?

Jalechah

ah, thanx alot 4 that. i didnt relise the viewport did that (newbie) with the render its perfect. but is there a way 2 stop the filtering while i edit the texture??

Wells

customize > preferences > viewport, I think. Change the settings so that it shows textures at full rez.

Jalechah

hmm, i dont know which thing to check or uncheck.. i hav 3ds max 6. but i can just render it every now and agen

Jalechah

heres an update of the skin, im using the brush 4 the face and hair needs a lil touching up.