In Season 2, you kind of find out their motive for the war, though I think it's a little weak.
I'm kind of liking Season 1 better, though. I actually like how wishy washy Gaius is, especially considering how powerful a position he's in. He was also a good bit of comic relief, in between all the "humanity has one last chance to survive" melodrama. Also, I think the S1 finale was quite possibly some of the finest television ever produced - all these little plot lines going on to distract you, and then POW! right in the kisser.
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Anyone want to explain to me how a fighter pilot (Starbuck) was put in charge of mounting a rescue mission rather than one of the marines? At least her fucking up seemed appropriate.
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Because she's TOUGH! And a CHICK!! How do you like THAT?!? That's EDGY!! That's how I read it (yes, I saw this episode). The fucking up was just a way to keep the character angsty and give her a reason for an emotional apology and reconciliation between them later. Especially since they seem to be trying REALLY HARD to get fangirls to want Starbuck and Apollo to get together. ANGST!!
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And Lee's near-death experiences every other episode are just a bit much; he's been asphyxiated in deep space, strangled with a garrotte and shot in the chest in just the last five shows. Sheesh.
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All he is is potential drama. His sole purpose on the show is to be an emotional connection to other characters (Starbuck, Adama), so whenever he's in danger there is MORE DRAMA. He isn't even a character, he's just this dude that foreshadows a reaction shot from another character. Hell, he caused DRAMA for five seperate characters in that episode, and besides that all he did was do something that would bring Starbuck in; after he did his chick-stealing (DRAMA for Billy and whatshername) showing Tigh's wife is a hootchie (DRAMA for her and future DRAMA for Tigh I bet), and mucking with the O2 sensor (to bring Starbuck in) his part was done. His callsign should be 'plot device.'
Dana Delaney is still hot (olde tyme China Beach fan here ).
Frank, your forgetting, She was also inadvertenly responsible for Apollos brothers death. So she was having much more angst than normal to what she did.
Again, quiet frankly she was the leading officer on Cloud 9 at the time, and they needed immediate action. Yes, it was a plot device, but its not like they had many choices.
If you want to go hardcore i'd go for the Night's Dawn trilogy, best SciFi i ever read. It's huge, 3 books with 1000+ pages.
I think you can only order the newer prints which were broken down into 6 books. Starts with http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446605...5Fencoding=UTF8
I kinda like Gaius, he can be truely annoying, but i love the situations where he's talking to his Brain-Cylon and tries to deal with the real world at the same time. Only funny thing the series has, and he plays the whishy washy role good.
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Again, quiet frankly she was the leading officer on Cloud 9 at the time, and they needed immediate action. Yes, it was a plot device, but its not like they had many choices.
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I figured that was the reasoning as well, but it just doesn't make sense. If I need to plan a small arms hostage rescue mission to liberate my son, I go with the marine sergeant who does that for a living rather than the air force captain who has more decorations on her uniform but no squad-based combat experience. Rank is no substitute for training, and putting Starbuck in that position was just silly. I don't mind 'plot devices' in general, but I do when they're that transparent and angsty
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Frank, your forgetting, She was also inadvertenly responsible for Apollos brothers death. So she was having much more angst than normal to what she did.
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You're right, I did forget that. I knew it, too. SO MUCH ANGST!
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I'm kind of liking Season 1 better, though. I actually like how wishy washy Gaius is, especially considering how powerful a position he's in. He was also a good bit of comic relief, in between all the "humanity has one last chance to survive" melodrama. Also, I think the S1 finale was quite possibly some of the finest television ever produced - all these little plot lines going on to distract you, and then POW! right in the kisser.
Anyone want to explain to me how a fighter pilot (Starbuck) was put in charge of mounting a rescue mission rather than one of the marines? At least her fucking up seemed appropriate.
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Because she's TOUGH! And a CHICK!! How do you like THAT?!? That's EDGY!! That's how I read it (yes, I saw this episode). The fucking up was just a way to keep the character angsty and give her a reason for an emotional apology and reconciliation between them later. Especially since they seem to be trying REALLY HARD to get fangirls to want Starbuck and Apollo to get together. ANGST!!
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And Lee's near-death experiences every other episode are just a bit much; he's been asphyxiated in deep space, strangled with a garrotte and shot in the chest in just the last five shows. Sheesh.
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All he is is potential drama. His sole purpose on the show is to be an emotional connection to other characters (Starbuck, Adama), so whenever he's in danger there is MORE DRAMA. He isn't even a character, he's just this dude that foreshadows a reaction shot from another character. Hell, he caused DRAMA for five seperate characters in that episode, and besides that all he did was do something that would bring Starbuck in; after he did his chick-stealing (DRAMA for Billy and whatshername) showing Tigh's wife is a hootchie (DRAMA for her and future DRAMA for Tigh I bet), and mucking with the O2 sensor (to bring Starbuck in) his part was done. His callsign should be 'plot device.'
Dana Delaney is still hot (olde tyme China Beach fan here
Frank the Avenger
Again, quiet frankly she was the leading officer on Cloud 9 at the time, and they needed immediate action. Yes, it was a plot device, but its not like they had many choices.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345479...5Fencoding=UTF8
the second part just came out too (Judas unchained)
If you want to go hardcore i'd go for the Night's Dawn trilogy, best SciFi i ever read. It's huge, 3 books with 1000+ pages.
I think you can only order the newer prints which were broken down into 6 books. Starts with
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446605...5Fencoding=UTF8
I kinda like Gaius, he can be truely annoying, but i love the situations where he's talking to his Brain-Cylon and tries to deal with the real world at the same time. Only funny thing the series has, and he plays the whishy washy role good.
Again, quiet frankly she was the leading officer on Cloud 9 at the time, and they needed immediate action. Yes, it was a plot device, but its not like they had many choices.
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I figured that was the reasoning as well, but it just doesn't make sense. If I need to plan a small arms hostage rescue mission to liberate my son, I go with the marine sergeant who does that for a living rather than the air force captain who has more decorations on her uniform but no squad-based combat experience. Rank is no substitute for training, and putting Starbuck in that position was just silly. I don't mind 'plot devices' in general, but I do when they're that transparent and angsty
Frank, your forgetting, She was also inadvertenly responsible for Apollos brothers death. So she was having much more angst than normal to what she did.
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You're right, I did forget that. I knew it, too. SO MUCH ANGST!
Frank the Avenger
ep 2-12 set the standard for the series for me.