bullets or blades?
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it's a violent world, and people die all the time (sad, but true). I've been trying to avoid violent stuff for a while in my artwork, but have noticed a lot of peeps enojy modelling and drawing death related media. Anyway so what?! Which looks coolest? Guns or Swords?!?
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guns are for sissy boys who don't know how to fight with honor. and the pistol helps to rid the world of those cowards.
/jzero
Hm, what do gunblades fall under?
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"Nerd"
Everyone needs a totable gattling gun, Vulcan Raven style!
A swordsman is a martial artist. A marksman is a technician.
Of course, it only works in a fictional setting. In real-life, guns always win. All you have to do is run away as fast as you can while firing over your shoulder. Eventually you'll hit the sword-toting maniac chasing you. In the realm of non-existence, characters can possess skills incredible enough to make up the difference. (ninjas)
Swords are cooler. Guns are too impersonal as a tool of violence.
or
guy with a big toothpick who can kill you from 5inches...
hmmm....
guns.
if you'd said LIGHTSABRES...no contest...
What's even better are automatic grenade launchers, tank main gns and artillery.
Scott
What do you have with a sword, a flat piece of metal some monkey hammered flat. Swords have thier place and they are cool and all but really how much skill does it take to make or swing a sharp piece of metal, compaired to a gun? I'm not talking about proper form or the years you can spend studying different teniques, those can be done with a mop handle, and they are teniques that can be cool on thier own and shouldn't really factor into how cool the hunk of metal is. Any mokey with aposible thumbs can swing a machete. But with guns you have are required to have precision, practice and a certain level of know-how to maintain it. with sword you just need to remember to not grab the sharp part and whipe it off when you're done.
Similarly, about the skill to wield one effectively... Man, I don't know where you're getting that one from. A five year old child can be a lethal force with a handgun, but he's not hurting anyone except possibly himself with a broadsword. At the same time, a master gunman can easily be killed by even the most novice marksman at twenty paces - as the saying goes: God created man, Samuel Colt made them equal. But with a sword... I've just got to assume you honestly haven't the foggiest idea about this. A novice swordsman against a master simply has no chance; defending the slashes and thrusts from someone who has picked up a sword for the first time is taking candy from a baby - awkward, off-balanced, over-reaching and easily defeated. It doesn't matter if this is kendo (which I've studied) or Olympic fencing or two half-naked Scots settling a dispute over who gets the last plate of haggis by swinging claymores at each other.
Swords take years merely to be competant with. A decent shooter can be trained in weeks, as the army has been proving for years.
When I was little I always wanted a "chain sword" from warhammer 40k
(hey this poll thing is all messed up in firefox)
it's a violent world, and people die all the time (sad, but true). I've been trying to avoid violent stuff for a while in my artwork, but have noticed a lot of peeps enojy modelling and drawing death related media. Anyway so what?! Which looks coolest? Guns or Swords?!?
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sniper who can kill you from 500 yards
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guy with a big toothpick who can kill you from 5inches...
hmmm....
guns.
if you'd said LIGHTSABRES...no contest...
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lightsabres ..... soooo passe so are guns.
nothing beats a daito and wakizashi combo.
lightsabres ..... soooo passe so are guns.
nothing beats a dildo and wasabi combo.
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it's a violent world, and people die all the time (sad, but true). I've been trying to avoid violent stuff for a while in my artwork, but have noticed a lot of peeps enojy modelling and drawing death related media. Anyway so what?! Which looks coolest? Guns or Swords?!?
[/ QUOTE ]Swords that can deflect projectiles ala Grayfox from MGS
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i voted guns for all the interesting and unique guns produced.. but hawken, i will have to profess loving the chainsword from an early age as well. i got into WH40K stuff much later (my army still needs painting, sigh), but when we were kids we played Talisman all the time. the Space Marine was a cool customer, sure, but the Chainsaw Warrior (with chainsword) was the absolute best.
guns give you the bad-ass sharpshooter effect, swords give you the fast, elegant anhilation ( or not). seeing a person wearing a sword is probly more attractive than a gun or rifle, but seeing someone blasting and diving all action-jackson is cool too.
nothing beats a daito and wakizashi combo.
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Nothing? Tell me then how someone with a sword is going to hit this as it strafes your bullet ridden corpse.
OWNED.
Uzi
MP5DS3 (with all the spec ops taclight/laser/sight stuff)
M4 carbine (with scope)
AK47
M60E3
desert eagle
those beretta assault rifles from starship troopers
the SPAS-12 shotgun
robocop's pistol
winchester 10 guage lever-action shotgun that the T-800 uses in T-2
h&k g36
those automatics the clerics use in equlibrium
walther P-99
what swords are cool:
katanas
sabres
'nuff said.
robocop's pistol!!!
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You've left out that big ass gun that batou uses near the end of GITS to kill the "tank" thats giving major kusanagi a hard time...
Come on though, saying "sabres" and "katanas" is like saying "pistols" and "automatics"
yes the g36k looks cool ...
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lightsabres ..... soooo passe so are guns.
nothing beats a dildo and wasabi combo.
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LMAO
SlayerJ :errr the comparison is between guns and swords not outdated anti tank aircraft and swords.
I think swords are better as guns are so over done and cliched and belong in the same pile as armour with big shoulder pads
robocop's pistol
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This is a Beretta M93R with some movie junk bolted to the front end. That kind of gimmick is done all the time for uber movie guns; Blade's weapon in the first movie got the same treatment, an M10 or M11 submachine gun with goofy front end bits.
What I dislike most about guns is that there's no real movement/complexity involved. Sure you have to be accurate, and that's a skill, but especially in games, it's an invisible one. "Badassing" with guns is much more situational than with swords in my view.
Not that my vote for swords is for an exclusion of guns or anything. You just need a balance. Like DMC
AK47 looks cool? take another look
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You may not think it looks cool, but you have to admit that it is basically the quintessential assault rifle. When someone thinks "assault rifle," an AK47 is likely to be the first thing that pops into their mind.
Vig, are you being deliberately obtuse or something?
Swords take years merely to be competant with. A decent shooter can be trained in weeks, as the army has been proving for years.
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I am reminded of "Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark". When Indy is trying to catch up to some sword wielding kidnappers. He turns down an ally way and is met by a big man with some pretty impressive sword twirling skills. Indy pulls out his pistol and shoots the guy dead.
What did his pretty sword twirling skills get him? Shot dead I guess because he wasn't going to recover from a bullet to the chest. Take skill out of it, the gun was a more effective weapon. Yeah but that sword guy he twirled that sword like you wouldn't believe. I think that sums up how I feel about swords VS guns on the coolness factor.
When you talk about a little kid being able to pick up a gun and all of a sudden be a deadly assassin capable of picking off pennies as you toss them into the air. I am reminded of that scene in Pulp Fiction where there is a guy hiding in the bathroom while Vincent and Jules talk to try to shake some guy down. All of a sudden the guy bursts out of the bathroom and empties his clip all around Jules and Vincent. He didnt hit a single thing from point blank range.
To me Guns are way more interesting because they are more involved. Which makes them cooler in my eyes. Since this thread is about "which you find cooler" my opinion is to go with the thing that makes me scratch my head and wonder how it all came to be. With the sword, I think wow some guy took some metal and pounded it flat! WOO HOO! GO BURLEY BLACKSMITH GUY! BANG THAT HAMMER! MAKE THAT METAL SHARP.
Just to clear things up when I think of swords I don't think of the ornamental swords that are displayed in cases and never used. I think of your standard every day run of the mill hack and slash sword. Much like what the sword the Uruk-Hai Scimitar had in LOTR. I know the first thing sword buffs think of is some ornamental sword that can cut thru solid concrete and also makes a nice bit of eye candy above the mantel.
Since this thread is asking about what you find cool, how about you stop trying to convert me to being a sword guy and just read what everyone has to say. Why do you always have to pick a fight with someone? Sometimes I just get tired of your troll like posts...
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Vig, are you being deliberately obtuse or something?
Swords take years merely to be competant with. A decent shooter can be trained in weeks, as the army has been proving for years.
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I am reminded of "Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark". When Indy is trying to catch up to some sword wielding kidnappers. He turns down an ally way and is met by a big man with some pretty impressive sword twirling skills. Indy pulls out his pistol and shoots the guy dead.
What did his pretty sword twirling skills get him? Shot dead I guess because he wasn't going to recover from a bullet to the chest. Take skill out of it, the gun was a more effective weapon. Yeah but that sword guy he twirled that sword like you wouldn't believe. I think that sums up how I feel about swords VS guns on the coolness factor.
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And this proves what? Everyone knows guns are more effective weapons for killing than swords. I never claimed otherwise. Killing efficiency has nothing to do with what's cool.
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When you talk about a little kid being able to pick up a gun and all of a sudden be a deadly assassin capable of picking off pennies as you toss them into the air. I am reminded of that scene in Pulp Fiction where there is a guy hiding in the bathroom while Vincent and Jules talk to try to shake some guy down. All of a sudden the guy bursts out of the bathroom and empties his clip all around Jules and Vincent. He didnt hit a single thing from point blank range.
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"Deadly assassin", eh? I didn't say anything of the sort, of course, but wild exaggerations are just so much fun. And a second movie reference as well - hurray for fictional examples.
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To me Guns are way more interesting because they are more involved. Which makes them cooler in my eyes. Since this thread is about "which you find cooler" my opinion is to go with the thing that makes me scratch my head and wonder how it all came to be. With the sword, I think wow some guy took some metal and pounded it flat! WOO HOO! GO BURLEY BLACKSMITH GUY! BANG THAT HAMMER! MAKE THAT METAL SHARP.
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Yeah, I can tell that's what you think, as you said so in your first post. That doesn't make it right, which was the point of my reply to your first post. Whether you get hot in the pants at the thought of some guy laboring over an anvil or not really doesn't compel me one way or the other. You said a 'monkey' can make a sword, and I explained how that's not necessarily any more true of blades than firearms.
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Since this thread is asking about what you find cool, how about you stop trying to convert me to being a sword guy and just read what everyone has to say. Why do you always have to pick a fight with someone? Sometimes I just get tired of your troll like posts...
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Heh. Nice bait, but I'm not biting.
How retarted am I for even talking to the angry little man in the corner? I must like being spit on and punched in the nuts?
I do think you post too much to just get a raise out of poeple so you can argue and feel like you acomplished something. Which is not what this thread is about, but whatever gets your wood going. In the end you have to remember that old net saying "arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded". Well there you are standing all gimpy on the 1st place ramp. You get a shinny gold drool pan, YEAH YOU!
comparing swords to guns is jsut silly.
But if i had to choose one that can open a can of whoopass...
SmartGun baybee.
The dagger variety...