I predict its going to be New England and Philly, with Philly being the underdog though, i truely think that this will be there year, with owens gone and after watching the vikings game, thier recievers are starting to step it up, and brian westbrooke was always there best offensive weapon,
whats your guys opinion
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The Steelers are the better overall team, but Ben Roethlisberger has been struggling at times during the second half of the season and appears to have hit that "rookie wall" coaches talk about. He'll wind up costing them big time against the Patriots who are winnners and won't miss two easy game winning field goals.
I think Atlanta is going to beat Philly. Andy Reid is a perennial choker in big games, and without Owens their offense is pretty ordinary. I would like them to win because I like McNabb, but I think that Atlanta is just too dominant on the ground, and Philly has a suspect run defense.
Regardless, the Superbowl will be won in dominating fashion by whichever AFC team gets there. They have owned the NFC this year.
pats will win because i hate the eagles
I'm sure you can reciprocate
now all we need is the bruins (if nhl ever comes back) and the celtics (if larry bird ever comes out of retirement) to win, and i will be a happy man since my team the red sox won it all!
In the absence of the Raiders, i'd quite like to see Atlanta take it; they have a stylish uniform, some great players (especially Mike Vick), and the manner of their victory on Saturday against the Rams really impressed me - lots of great offensive football made the game great to watch - it was certainly miles better than the letdown which was [email="Indy@NE"]Indy@NE[/email] yesterday (what happened to the colts' catching ability, and why did Manning attempt no long throws, and instead continuously try the run...James was getting absolutely nowhere against that stingy NE D-line and linebacker corps...).
Fuck she's Michael Jackson with Fake tits.
it was certainly miles better than the letdown which was [Email]Indy@NE[/Email] yesterday (what happened to the colts' catching ability, and why did Manning attempt no long throws, and instead continuously try the run...James was getting absolutely nowhere against that stingy NE D-line and linebacker corps...).
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The dome wonder boys had to play against a team that had already beat them this year and they had to play outside, in the snow! Hard to catch! hee hee!
I just love the fact the Mr. Steve is a Raiders fan!
I wouldn't mind seeing Atlanta go, but I think Atlanta in Philadelphia is gonna be a re-run of the Colts in Boston
I'm taking the Falcons over Philadelphia. Vick on is day is unstoppable and you'd need a defense like Pittsburgh to stop him (Or New England). New England or Pittsburgh? Depends how will Big Ben plays, along with Cory Dillon for NE
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keep in mind that Philadelphia is tied second this season in points allowed with New England, while Pittsburgh is first by a little bit, also keep in mind that the last 2 games they lost they kept out most of thier starting players so those stats would have probably have been lower if they tried the last 2 games, on the other subject, as much i would love to see a rematch on superbowl sunday between philly and pittsburgh, i know that isnt going to happen since the pats are on a roll and are probably going to crush the steelers if Big Ben is going to continuine to play like a rookie like last week
i doubt TO will be back by superbowl, if he did then he will make a really big differance in the game as well as pumping up the morale of the eagles
Pittsburg vs. New England will be a real slugfest, but I think New England will pull it out, even though they lost the first matchup. If Corey Dillon does what he did last weekend, he'll be tough to stop. I think that Brady has too much experience, and will outshine the rookie Roethlisberger.
So, Philly vs. New England in the superbowl, and New England will just have too much discipline for Philly. They won't make any mistakes, and will pull out a win.
- BoBo
"From star tribune"
Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too
Paul Levy, Star Tribune
January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117
PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.
The Minnesota Vikings lost to the Philadelphia Eagles 27-14 Sunday -- ending the Vikings' playoff hopes and season. But all the mother of Vikings lineman Chris Liwienski could talk about was how she and her family were physically abused by fans in the upper deck of Lincoln Financial Field.
Wearing one of her son's purple Vikings jerseys, Marie Hoppe said she was pushed repeatedly by hostile Philadelphia fans. Her daughter-in-law, Christina Liwienski, said she was hit in the head by a plastic beer bottle.
"We were warned that Philadelphia fans would be rough, the worst in the league, and my son begged me not to wear this jersey," said Hoppe, of suburban Detroit. "Fans are supposed to come to games, not thugs. But these people had their hands on me constantly.
"What are these people doing at sporting events like this?"
The announced crowd of 67,722 seemed determined to enhance a well-earned reputation as the National Football League's crudest. But the Eagles -- the top seed and class of the National Football Conference -- didn't really need any extra help against a Vikings team that finished the season 9-7 and looked every bit like the conference's lowest playoff seed.
With Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb dissecting the Minnesota secondary early and passing for two touchdowns, and facing a tough Philadelphia defense, the Vikings looked very much like a team that lost four of its final five regular season games and not like a team that upset the Packers in Green Bay in the playoffs' first round.
"Giving up 21 points in the first half doesn't help," Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield said.
Obnoxious and hostile
The Vikings offered their fans hope when quarterback Daunte Culpepper's 7-yard touchdown run in the second quarter cut the Eagles' lead to 14-7.
"We still have a chance," Marie Hoppe said during the third quarter.
But she and her family had long given up on the Eagles fans. Joe Liwienski, Chris' 22-year-old brother, said he attended the "basketbrawl" game in Auburn Hills, Mich., where members of the Indiana Pacers exchanged punches with Detroit Pistons fans.
"This was 10 times worse," he said.
"The fans were obnoxious," Chris Liwienski said from the Vikings locker room. "They were chanting stuff to Randy [Moss] throughout the game. You expect that, but you don't expect them to abuse people in the stands trying to enjoy the game."
The few fans who came to the game wearing Vikings purple were greeted by a boisterous and hostile crowd that began sharpening their fangs in parking lots near the stadium at 6 a.m., presumably stirring their alcoholic beverages with rusty nails.
Mike Hughes, 39, of Excelsior, wearing a purple Randy Moss jersey on his back and his heart on his sleeve, walked right through the Eagles crowd that hurled obscenities and promised to throw even more at him.
"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.
"I went to all but three Vikings road games this year," Hughes said. "I can tell you that Green Bay is nothing like this."
Scott Bain, 33, also wearing a Moss jersey, said he "never felt so lonely" as he walked briskly through a parking lot crowded with Eagles fans chanting obscenities and holding "Jacksonville or Bust" signs.
"We had upper deck seats, but we got so many warnings about what might happen to us that we sold them and bought club level seats on the street," said Bain, formerly of Anoka and now a lawyer in Washington, D.C. "We were told it was safer there."
Said Steve Beckman, 47, of New Brighton, in a well-worn (but not yet battered) Moss jersey: "They warned us not to wear this attire, but we didn't listen. I even rode the subway here.
"They told us that if the Vikings win, we'd better take a cab home, for our own protection."
"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.
Philadelphia, which has lost the three previous conference title games, will try again next Sunday against Atlanta.
"How many disappointments can Philadelphia fans take?" asked John Groses, 74, of Media, Pa.
"This city's been through hell with its sports teams," said Tom Jones, of Milton, Del., whose bus is painted Eagles green, has Eagles logos in every window and has become a pregame meeting place for Eagles cheerleaders, fans and anyone looking for a photo opportunity or to commiserate.
"We gear ourselves up for these games, but the worst has happened so many times."
The worst happened in the upper deck, in the corner of the end zone, Chris Liwienski said.
"I tried to warn them," he said of his family. "It's like these fans have hit a new low."
:P
Buddy Ryan! Snowballs packed with batteries thrown at Cowboy fans and players! Enforced non-drinking policies!
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Fuck Tom Brady and the Patriots. Their 2002 rings should be taken away and their "dynasty" will always have an asterisk in the Bay Area. Incomplete pass my ass. All I can say now is I hope they lose.
I see pats-eagles tho i would like to see steelers-eagles just because the great season they've had.
lol its Philadelphia!
Buddy Ryan! Snowballs packed with batteries thrown at Cowboy fans and players! Enforced non-drinking policies!
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And they use to have a courthouse in the old stadium so they could prosecute rowdy fans during the game!
iam rooting for eagles and steelers in my hopes for a superbowl rematch with the steelers
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The Eagles' only Super Bowl appearance came against the Oakland Raiders, not the Steelers.
I just noticed that this thread is discussing the Super Bowel, which is pretty funny.
As a Cowboy fan I can say that I have never done that before in my life! Sorry Sal, maybe next time!
On the upside, at the party I was at I won 3 fifty dollar shotgun pots. So 150 dollar return on a 60 dollar investment lifted my spirits a little
Oh and congrats to the Pats.
poor clock management in the 4th quarter and those turnovers were the eagles downfall, TO had an outstanding game considering he had surgery a month back, and pinkston played alot better then i would had expected, it was a good game though, congrats to the pats fans out there, P.S. i hope freddy mitchell gets released next year
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Dittoes.
I'm thinking that Vic is going to get laid out by Philly's 260 lb freakishly fast middle linebacker, Jeremiah Trotter. It'll be all downhill for the Falcons after that, and Philly will win.
Pittsburg vs. New England will be a real slugfest, but I think New England will pull it out, even though they lost the first matchup. If Corey Dillon does what he did last weekend, he'll be tough to stop. I think that Brady has too much experience, and will outshine the rookie Roethlisberger.
So, Philly vs. New England in the superbowl, and New England will just have too much discipline for Philly. They won't make any mistakes, and will pull out a win.
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Damn I was accurate. It's scary how fanatical I get about football, but it sure will be nice to have my Sundays back.