Zbrush how to eliminate pinch when creasing and subd?

vlaint

Hi. I'm currently doing an armor part and this is my first one with proper topology(atleast I think it is) since all I've been doing before was just dynamesh. The issue I'm facing is if I don't crease all the way to the top there is pinching or the polygons collapse after the crease. I've tried adding 1 polyloop side by side of the point instead of the crease and while it solved the pinching there is now a noticeable line across the surface when subdividing. How would I go about doing this? One idea I have is just separate the curved green polygroup and make into a separate subtool but I'm curious what changes to the topology do I need to do to make it work.

vlaint

just an update I seem to have gotten rid of the pinch when subdividing with a change in topology. I dunno if the topology is acceptable though. Or can I just go wild with it since no animation will be done on armor pieces?

Kanni3d

If it looks fine after sub-d and has no artifacting/pinching, dont worry about topology. Especially because you're just sculpting it afterwards, I imagine.

Yerus

Are you going to subdivide it for the final product? Because, if you are not, then there is no need to adjust it. Plus: if you get the endurance, you can tweak the normals of the mesh to look like there is a crease there when actually there isn't.

vlaint

Kanni3d said:

If it looks fine after sub-d and has no artifacting/pinching, dont worry about topology. Especially because you're just sculpting it afterwards, I imagine.

Good to know. Thanks
Yerus said:

Are you going to subdivide it for the final product? Because, if you are not, then there is no need to adjust it. Plus: if you get the endurance, you can tweak the normals of the mesh to look like there is a crease there when actually there isn't.

I will subdivide it to add some smoothing on crease so as to not look so sharp. To be honest though I still haven't fully grasped a good workflow. My plan for now is subdividing it a few times so I can smoothen the edges. I still have no experience with UV or normal mapping(actually I dunno if they are the same lol) but was hoping to do so on this current project. Like will I be able to get the smoother edges of the subdivided sculpt and bake it to the base mesh and get the smooth edge on lowpoly?

vlaint

Pretty much figured everything out. Anyways just thought to share the final output. Also thank you for the inputs.