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[WIP] Buck 538 Small Game Knife

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Been working on this little knife for a bit. Loosely followed the Tim Bergholz tutorial on knife modelling. Didn't want to do the exact same knife though so figured I would give this one a go cause I thought it looked cool. Still have lots of little details to put into the texturing but its coming along alright. Did a low poly then sub-d for the high poly then baked in painter. Crits welcome!

Heres the actual knife





And here's where I'm at










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  • teodar23
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    teodar23 interpolator
    The model looks good, mind sharing some wires?
    But its ruined by the muddy random noise on the blade. Do a clean version first then start adding dirt and grime in increments. Also theres a scratch in the blade so deep that it looks like it was made with a sword. This is probably steel one of the most durable material in the world, not aluminium. A cut like that is highly unlikely to happen.
    The handle is missing a bevel, dont know if that was intentional but thought i should mention it.
  • littleclaude
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    Very nice, how did you make the wood material?
  • ChrisFraser
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    teodar23 said:
    The model looks good, mind sharing some wires?


    Sure, here's the wires on the low poly. Definitely had to fight the urge to make everything 4 sided and perfect. In the vid Tim talks a lot about how its going to be triangulated anyways so not to worry about it too much (but not to use that as an excuse to do shitty modelling). Not sure if I achieved that or not.





    You're right, I probably should do a clean version then work from there. I'll give that a go.




    Very nice, how did you make the wood material?

    Just layers of materials and whatnot in Painter. I started with the default American Cherry material and went from there.
  • teodar23
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    The use for quads is in the high poly model or better said the base model that you subdivide to get the high poly. In the low poly you must remove any unnecessary vertex keeping the silouette or the general shape in place. Looks good but could be more optimised.
  • ChrisFraser
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    Here's where I'm at with a clean version of the knife. I wasn't satisfied with the sharpened part of the blade in the older version so have spent most of my time working on that and refining some of the edges in painter. Coming along but lots to do still.


  • ChrisFraser
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    Still working away on this. I've kind of obsessively been trying to bake the grooves into the knife handle over and over for the past while. I think I like the bottom grooves now but the ones at the top still need some work. Contemplating adding in the bevel indent that runs around the grip too. Still lots to do. Finding spare moments to work on it.


  • ChrisFraser
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    Ok, finally starting to like where this is headed with the grooves in the handle and the screws. Now to get back to texturing this thing.


  • ChrisFraser
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    Small update. Got the other emblem on the handle


  • scottycharly
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    It's a very nice piece. Small details like the serial number are nice. Love the wood handle in its dirty version. The blade is very nice too. I would tone down the vertical lines on the blade and made them more subtle like on your ref. 

  • ChrisFraser
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    It's a very nice piece. Small details like the serial number are nice. Love the wood handle in its dirty version. The blade is very nice too. I would tone down the vertical lines on the blade and made them more subtle like on your ref. 


    Thanks, I've definitely been struggling with that sharpened part and tweaking it to look like the ref. How is this, better or worse? I feel like its too busy now but not sure..




  • 9Solid
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    Hey, Chris. So looking at the model where it's at now, I think the subtle scratches are much better now. One thing I would note is that I'd expect the edge of the knife to be smoother, those scratches wouldn't be there with how the blade would be sharpened. Also, I would expect the edge to be smoother and more reflective than the rest of the knife. Also, I like the wear in the dirtier version, particularly in the handle. I think you would benefit from some more color variation in the handle, maybe tweaking the wood so there isn't a solid dark line in the center. 

    Finally, I'd second what someone said earlier about optimization. With the handle and metal being more or less the same profile, the wood parts and the metal center could be the same model in your low poly, and you could bake it with color id maps to add metal to the center.
  • ChrisFraser
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    9Solid said:
    Hey, Chris. So looking at the model where it's at now, I think the subtle scratches are much better now. One thing I would note is that I'd expect the edge of the knife to be smoother, those scratches wouldn't be there with how the blade would be sharpened. Also, I would expect the edge to be smoother and more reflective than the rest of the knife. Also, I like the wear in the dirtier version, particularly in the handle. I think you would benefit from some more color variation in the handle, maybe tweaking the wood so there isn't a solid dark line in the center. 

    Finally, I'd second what someone said earlier about optimization. With the handle and metal being more or less the same profile, the wood parts and the metal center could be the same model in your low poly, and you could bake it with color id maps to add metal to the center.


    Hey, thanks! The suggestion about the edge made a lot of sense so I fixed that. I liked the dirty version too and always planned to do a dirty version after I dialed in the rest of it. 

    About the optimization of the model, isn't it kind of too late for that by now though? At this point I might want to push on to the next model and try to make it as optimized as possible in the modeling stage. I hadn't made any 3d models for about a year prior to this knife so just wanted to use it to remember some things and keep moving on forward.

    I went ahead and finished the clean version with a slightly different handle colouring as suggested, did the dirty version and am thinking of trying some other texture variants. I threw together a stealth version as well, which looks pretty cool.

    In reality there are a couple of other variants of the knife as well that I might try, there's a white handled one with a leaf emblem that looks quite cool. Might give that a go.






  • ChrisFraser
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    Looking at this other version that I wanted to make, it looks like the handle is fundamentally different from the wood version. So, I'm taking the advice of a few posters in here and trying to redo the handle and optimize the geometry. I have gotten rid of the handle I had and am building it out of the blade mesh now so that they are one mesh in the end. So far just cut the shape into the blade, inset it a tiny bit so it doesn't match up perfectly with the blade handle, which in pics is what it looks like and extruded it out a little. Still lots to connect and some bevels. Just kind of posting a sanity check before I proceed.

    Here is the version I like and am going to try to do next



    And heres the mesh so far


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