Deep fakes

RN

What do you think about "Deep Fake" technology, and its implications?
First, some lighthearted videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUphMqs1vFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPKeUXjEvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MuxVqB3I7E
The two main software in this field seem to be the open-source FaceSwap and DeepFaceLab.
A statement from FaceSwap:

FaceSwap has ethical uses

(...) We are not trying to denigrate celebrities or to demean anyone. We are programmers, we are engineers, we are Hollywood VFX artists, we are activists, we are hobbyists, we are human beings. To this end, we feel that it's time to come out with a standard statement of what this software is and isn't as far as us developers are concerned.

- FaceSwap is not for creating inappropriate content.
- FaceSwap is not for changing faces without consent or with the intent of hiding its use.
- FaceSwap is not for any illicit, unethical, or questionable purposes.
- FaceSwap exists to experiment and discover AI techniques, for social or political commentary, for movies, and for any number of ethical and reasonable uses.

We are very troubled by the fact that FaceSwap can be used for unethical and disreputable things. However, we support the development of tools and techniques that can be used ethically as well as provide education and experience in AI for anyone who wants to learn it hands-on. We will take a zero tolerance approach to anyone using this software for any unethical purposes and will actively discourage any such uses.

In 2019 legislation was passed in the US that allows you to sue someone for damages if they make a bad use of your likeness using this technique.
I'm also wondering, if it can be used for video, what about audio -- emulating someone's voice (something like Adobe VoCo)? An almost complete synthetic impostor.

Alex_J

Nothing good to come from this.

rollin

Cyberpunk

sacboi

hmm...probably a good idea not letting the Fed's take a look what's on your smart phone, then.

RN

Agreed, outside of comedy / satire like in those videos, I don't think there's anything lawful that you can do with this. 

Taylor Brown

This line from the historical documentary Jurassic Park puts it best: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."

Spag_Eddy

Can I use this to deepfake my face onto Bradley Pitts' "Fight Club" body for my dating profile? Asking for a frri...oh, nevermind.

DavidCruz

Mustaches one is pure gold - one of those moment when you love society.

2nd is pretty neat - third i watched half way ("spoilers" or not)

Off topic but not really:

How can your data be used against you by - thoughty2

is worth a watch since phone information was brought up.

Cool post thanks for sharing i had a good laugh, i hear they do record you on skype ect, if you got a google home or anything in resemblance to that.

sacboi

ECHELON protocols will definitely I'd surmise flag this tech due too obvious none state actor implications, sinister intent or otherwise.

Octo

This will make certain types of vfx very cheap.
It could allow you to choose who you want in the roles of a movie, including yourself, combined with synthetic audio.
Porn. Can of course be used unethically, but mind your own business.

McGreed

I wonder if this might get adapted to real time online games, to create your avatar for VR, with facial detection.
It's a real cool function, that can make it easier to make action sequences with stuntmen, not having to worry that the camera might 'see' too much. But as always, there is negative sides to it, like plenty of power with nuclear, and TOO much power with nuclear in a second.

RN

Sorry to bump this year-old thread.

Shamook on Youtube posted a video showing what Clue (from Tron: Legacy) could look like if the de-ageing is done not by CGI but by using a deep-learning face swap: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW6PKX5KD-U
They've done the same with the Carrie Fisher cameo in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byKy9kGnyvo

almighty_gir

Deepfakes are CGI.

RN

Hah, good point! They're both CGI, but I think they use this term to refer to that "3D mesh based de-ageing" used in these movies, like in this promo picture:  

slosh

I think the main issue with deepfake is getting results that are high enough resolution.  At lower res, it definitely holds up better then traditional CGI.  

gnoop

With all that  amazing  AI  deep fakes etc   I wonder  why there is little to non  of anything really useful in a realm of  content creation tools.   Anything  I tried is so much so so    I prefer to do things myself.     Ai selection  in Photoshop  never selecting what you need and where it's just quicker to do it with magic wand,  simpligon  ignoring edited normals  and working on limited kinds of subjects really,   Artomatix  I tried to use  for a year and ended up using   patch tool or going back to Substance Designer.   

Bet there is a same reason  they don't use it for princess Leia .          So I wonder is there any hope   or it would be  staying  sifi in foreseeing future ,