RenderHub sells stolen Artwork - Artwork theft through marmoset viewer?
polycounter lvl 7
It has come to my attention that a renderhub seller was selling the model of a coworker of mine (illegally) and after browsing this sellers content oh and behold there was an asset of mine also. HE STOLE MY FUCKING RIFLE thats posted in artstation and has a marmoset viewer embedded (my cowrokers artwork also had that)
The quick conclusion we arrived is that he somehow ripped the 3d content using some kind of ripper through marmoset viewer and now sells thats stuff in renderhub. This is the sellers product page of my artwork:
https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/m14a1-assault-rifle
and this is my original post in Artstation:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/5JE0P
Of course Ive already contacted Renderhub and Im waiting for a response.
in case this dudes deletes the product page here are some captures:
Im pissed as fuck. Who knows how many dudes are doing this. I demand a response from marmoset also!!!
This is outrageous. I STRONLGY recommend you guys stop posting artwork with marmoset viewer
Thoughts?
The quick conclusion we arrived is that he somehow ripped the 3d content using some kind of ripper through marmoset viewer and now sells thats stuff in renderhub. This is the sellers product page of my artwork:
https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/m14a1-assault-rifle
and this is my original post in Artstation:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/5JE0P
Of course Ive already contacted Renderhub and Im waiting for a response.
in case this dudes deletes the product page here are some captures:
Im pissed as fuck. Who knows how many dudes are doing this. I demand a response from marmoset also!!!
This is outrageous. I STRONLGY recommend you guys stop posting artwork with marmoset viewer
Thoughts?
Replies
They also used the email reply to shamelessly ask me to sell my stuff on their site. I guess everyone needs to make a buck right? HAHA
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The jist of it is, because the content needs to be sent to the user to view, it can't be secured. Even if the content was theoretically secure, someone could reverse engineer the content by offloading it directly from the graphics card. It's very regrettable, but there is nothing we can do to prevent this.
Once you are seeing it on your screen its already in your VGA´s ram so it can be ripped by doing a memory dump or some similar shit.
3d content gets ripped all the time. I certainly did it from time to time in my early days to see how things where done and learn.
BUT I WOULD HAVE NEVER STOLEN IT to sell it elsewhere. Pieces of S**T!
I´ll have a look at that link ASAIC.
Thanks!
Also yeah, It's a shame that people do this. I mean I can understand ripping a model as a study tool, but to throw it on an asset store? This is just some shameful, mean stuff.
tell the studio, if studio cares, the studio will sue those thieves.
https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/woman-robot-character
https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/sci-fi-soldier
The assortment of models is eclectic to say the least.
rage288 : I would also recommend to rename this thread in " Renderhub - pirate site" or something, so more Artists know about this "great place".
Maybe Marmoset should suspend the Viewer itself, if it causes so many issues?
Or, maybe it's possible to write 3d file format native only for viewer?
Or maybe option in viewer, to make 360 spins to the renderer model (so only images are show) would be nice option for some?
Just some thoughts.
https://www.renderhub.com/ardara is a Pirate, and www.renderhub.com supports this, by keeping him online.
This is purely a problem with people being assholes and Renderhub supporting the behavior.
But i agree with zachagreg, as Artist just avoid this Renderhub, because they see Artists as sh...t..
They mentioned that they are reviewing the user's account and considering banning him, but as of yet have not taken any action there. I am not sure what their general process is. Hopefully something will happen there soon. This is the account in question: https://www.renderhub.com/ardara - with such a wide variety I expect that most of this is stolen, but have no proof, so if you guys recognize it we can find the original authors and get them to report it too, which will increase the likelihood that they ban the account outright.
In general I'm not really upset with Renderhub. It is very difficult for them (or any site like this) to proactively police this sort of thing, there is no easy way cross reference artwork when it is uploaded, so they rely on artists like us to report it when we see it.
Now, of course you can render turntables from Toolbag and make a GIF or video and post that instead. That's possible and pretty easy to do in Toolbag today. Just add a turntable object to your scene and render a sequence.
<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/sci-fi-soldier" title="Link: https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/sci-fi-soldier">https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/sci-fi-soldier</a>https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/woman-robot-character
I will write to the Turbosquid because is sell this chars exclusively there. And i will inform Renderhub. They should do something against this pirates. They should ban him from the Renderhub.
Sorry for making off topic, didn't mean it in a first place.
Thanks to Leonid who notified me about this on Artstation https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/fn-scar-17s
That's why i don't post my stuff with marmoset viewers anymore, it can be ripped very easily....
I have been informed by two different people (big thanks to them!) that my model have been stolen by the same member on RenderHub (this one: https://www.renderhub.com/ardara/western-saddle). First of all, thank you all for the awesome support, it's really nice to see artists helping each other out on that matter!
I contacted RenderHub, putting an emphasis on the fact that other artists have already made a complain about the same matter and that no further action had been taken since then. I hope it will help. If I get an answer, I'll tell you.
Anyway, thanks again to the community
I also had this user sell my model on his account. I had a Marmoset Viewer in my Artstation post.
Someone on Artstation informed me about his post, which is really awesome
I sent a message to Renderhub and linked to this forum as well. I received two replies within one minute, both saying the account should be down by the end of the day:
Let's hope it actually happens!
Ion
Thank you very much for blocking the user! I understand that situations like this one are difficult to manage and I'm just glad you blocked him in the end.
It's because of this awesome community of artists that so many people were aware that their models were being stolen and sold, it's really nice to see people being so helpful to each other.
And also a big Thanks to Leonid on artstation https://www.artstation.com/nocstrig who informed me about this scammer.
Lets open a blond one and celebrate!
Glad to have exposed this crook
Here you can obviously see that they're trying to sell my model:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/mq3ZXv
The user "admin" didn't even try to hide it. Unfortunately I can't find a way to report the user or even contact the people behind the website. All items are sold via https://www.syncs.online but I can't report my problem with them because I don't have the "correct link" when I link them to the DesireFX website.
Maybe there is something we can do as a community, or maybe it's time for Marmoset to step in because I'm taking my viewers offline.
Btw, I believe "admin" is not the only one selling stolen stuff on that website so check it out.
The bad part though is that that site looks like it's owned by the scammer as clicking any link immediately tries to sell me an iPhone. My thought is the entire site is a scam. Filled with these things for people to click on several aggressive ads for popups and spamware.
Everyone should avoid and boycott Renderhub.