Demon Bath, Concept by Peter Straubel

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I wanted to try hyper realistic skin textures on something but still have a stylised sculpt so I decided to go for this demon character I found on instagram. The concept is by peter straubel

here is where it's at right now (BPR render), did something different with the hair just cos i wanted to play around with new ideas..


Retopo done! would love to hear if i messed up in areas, really tried to get good edge loops which make sense for animation..


UV and substance up next!

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  • Optimus
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     The nose needs some hard edges, the eyes should match the reference photo, as the photo has blue pupil instead of black you gave her (unless its just a placeholder). Eyelids should be a little lower she should be looking behind her/at her shoulder. Topology looks good, would experiment with taking away some edges to see if it significantley affects the model. Lips are a bit thicker as well, and you adding too many lashes on the bottom of the eyes, there should only be 6 lashes sticking out. Ears need to be slightly thinner. Also eyebrows need to be a bit thinner as well.

    I'm not a character artist, i am a modeller and thus assume your trying to make a replica of that photo in 3D. If so, I think you should change the hair, its looking a bit like spaghetti and seems to be the biggest thing that keeping you away from a really good replica.
  • NinjaSocks
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    Hi thanks for taking the time! Everything you said make sense, i'll probably redo the hair with proper haircards and the other stuff are small tweaks :) the objective was more about practicing workflow and pipeline rather than exact replica.. although I was aiming at getting it pretty close to the concept art so thanks again! 
  • Wendy de Boer
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    I agree with Optimus that the hair looks like spagetti. The reason it looks like that, is because every strand is doing its own thing. Instead, you will want to try and clump strands together into bigger locks of hair. You will also want to make sure that these bigger locks are of different sizes: some thick ones, some medium ones, some thin ones.

    And then the trickiest part is to come up with a nice flow design for these clumps of hair: which one is passing over which? How does one clump of hair disappear under another, only to re-emerge from the mass of hair further down?
  • NinjaSocks
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    @Wendy de Boer Thanks for your input, I I found a couple of really good tutorials which explain what you are taking about. I'm not sure if i want to go for a sculpted look for the hair or if I should go for hair cards on this one.. would love to hear your choice between the two options as I'm trying to show skill diversity in my portfolio and I have other projects which use haircards.. Thanks again!
  • Optimus
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    @NinjaSocks I'd suggest you use hair cards if you want a fast way out, If you want it to look nicer then sculpt them. Hair cards you might not have to retopologize, but I think the sculpted look for her hair would look really nice.
  • Brian "Panda" Choi
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    Hair cards are not faster than physical hair geo at this time.

    I'd argue for using clumped volumes of flowing hair geo, unless you're down to finesse out an Ornatrix solution, or fibermesh, etc.
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    @Optimus @Brian "Panda" Choi Thanks both of you i think i'll go with your advice and redo the hair as geo :)
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    @Brian "Panda" Choi
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    Finally got back to redoing the hair as geo on this one, gonna polish it up tomorrow. I feel like it's a big improvement compared to the previous version but i would love to know what you think :) kept looking at lots of overwatch characters hair while i did this version but man those guys at blizzard are next level (I feel like they are able to keep it so much simpler yet still nail the look).
  • NinjaSocks
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    So this is what the new polished hair looks like, I'm pleased with the result so far. Not sure what it's gonna look like after texturing cos I really wanted to try out realistic skin on a stylized character but i'm not sure it's gonna look strange with the geo hair look.. suggestions are always welcome :)



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    Finally rendered out this project, would love to your thoughts on what could be improved. Thanks!
  • Aluni
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    This looks really awesome! The only thing I can see is that the eyebrows and eye lashes is a bit "clean". The eyebrow kind of cuts through the paint/tattoo on her face. I'm just a beginner, but that was my first reaction.

    But this is really nice work :)

  • NinjaSocks
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    @Aluni yes I also think that the eyebrows and lashes have clashed in style with the rest of of it. Thanks for your input it helps to confirm my own opinions.
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