3ds Max 2017 - Layer Explorer gone boom, anyone seen this before?

danr

well this is a mad one

i've got quite a complex max file that relies heavily on layers for navigation, export etc. At some point today (i've had my head down in Uvs and haven't really noticed when) all my existing objects have ... welll ... totally disassociated themselves from the concept of layers.



Not only have my layers dissapeared, all those dozens of objects off to the right (bounding box view so i'm not breaking NDA) are not visible at all in the layer explorer, and cannot be assigned to a layer. They should at the very least be  in 0(default). Everything is on under Display>Object Types, display non-dynamics etc etc.

i can create new layers and new objects - the teapots - go into them just fine as you can see. Its just all my existing objects have become totally layer-averse.

Its the same if i merge everything into a fresh, reset scene, so seems to be something to do with the objects themselves rather than the max file.

Anyone have any ideas? This is currently fucking me over, it's mental.

[slight edit] i've gone back a few check-ins in SVN and found when it was okay, it was just before i started UVing in anger, dunno if that could be related.
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Axi5

I haven't used Max in a long time but do you think that Filter icon being active might have something to do with it?

danr

this one?

that just turns the sidebar on and off.

Unless i have indeed pressed something obscure, i'm pretty sure i'm dealing with weirdness here.

danr

layer = LayerManager.newLayer()<br>for n in (selection as array) do layer.addnode n

script above seems to be a workaround for getting objects back into a layer, but i suspect all my carefully organised layers have gone to bollocks. Wonderful.

monster

This is a bug in Max 2017. I believe it's fixed in 2018. An Autodesk developer wrote this script for me to get the layers back. Place the script in the startup scripts folder, and then restart 3ds Max. Then open your organized file. Everytime you open a file it will make sure that all layers/objects are working.

danr

Excellent, I’ll give it a go, thanks muchly 

Streetwise

I just had this same exact horrible thing happen with 2018.4 Update. THANKFULLY I stumbled on this thread and found the scrip from monster. That fixed it and all is well again! Thank You to monster!!

Ga2Z

monster said:

This is a bug in Max 2017. I believe it's fixed in 2018. An Autodesk developer wrote this script for me to get the layers back. Place the script in the startup scripts folder, and then restart 3ds Max. Then open your organized file. Everytime you open a file it will make sure that all layers/objects are working.

Wow, Thanks!!!
I was about to throw my pc out the window. Buuut, do you know how to make it work on Max 2016? I get this error

monster

Can you paste the full output from the listener? I don't have 2016 installed.

Ga2Z

monster said:

Can you paste the full output from the listener? I don't have 2016 installed.

Here it is:

-- Error occurred in fixInvisibleLayers(); filename: \Software\_INSTALL_LOCATION\Autodesk\3ds Max 2016\scripts\startup\fixInvisibleLayers.ms; position: 3932; line: 66

--  Frame:

--   nRefs: undefined

--   dict: undefined

--   Event: #filePostOpenProcess

--   layer0: ReferenceTarget:BaseLayer

--   dictionary: undefined

--   called in anonymous codeblock

--  Frame:

>> MAXScript Callback script Exception:

-- Type error: Call needs function or class, got: undefined <<

monster

Looks like Dictionary was introduced in Max 2017.1.  The best you could do is install 2017, update it, use this startup script there, and then Save As 2016 format. To keep working in 2016.

Sorry.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/3DSMAX/2018/ENU/?guid=__files_GUID_39A9FDB8_E508_413F_BF58_EC8F52BE7CA9_htm

Ga2Z

monster said:

Looks like Dictionary was introduced in Max 2017.1.  The best you could do is install 2017, update it, use this startup script there, and then Save As 2016 format. To keep working in 2016.

Sorry.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/3DSMAX/2018/ENU/?guid=__files_GUID_39A9FDB8_E508_413F_BF58_EC8F52BE7CA9_htm

Alright, thanks a lot for your time

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