Abandoned Paper Mill

Rhoutermans

Hi guys,

Hoping to score some C&C on my current project. Made this corner first as a keyhole area to push the quality I wanted.

Latest screens:





Refboard etc:



Found some nice ref images online and with a perfect hero piece, the paper press:





Blockout mesh:





Some photogrammetry wall of the side of my appartment building:



The wall was made with blend maps(RGBA) to create the different colored paint coats: 




Working on the skylight roof atm, small preview blockout:



The foliage is all from megascans except for the ivy, photoscanned these from a tree near my house:





Cheers for any feedback

Auldbenkenobi

Really liking it so far, don't have any real critiques. Keep it going!

Rhoutermans

cheers! I got some vacation time coming up so hope to push it starting next week!

Maxilator

Perhaps you're thinking of achieving this with decals, but i think you should try and replicate a bit more of the noisiness of the reference pictures. 

Rhoutermans

@Maxilator
I think decals will be the way, I think it's a bit much in the reference photos, I could use some more detailing overall tho. Cheers for the feedback!

aclund3

Looking great so far!  For me, the ivy (and all the plants really) are reading a bit... oversaturated? I'm not sure what it is, but they aren't visually blending in with their surroundings too well.

Turks

This is looking really nice so far. Very promising. Texture work and plant life is coming along really well. Keep chuggin!

Rhoutermans

cheers guys, I've down scaled the saturation on the foliage a bit and am working on the ceiling. Probably gonna add plastic tarp sheets to the window ceilings.More tomorrow!

aclund3

Yeah! That's looking better. Really liking your work so far!

nathdevlin

Looking good thus far. I especially like the material / texture work. One thing I did notice is one of the maps on your grey brick on the right of the second last image seems to have one of the maps offset.

Rhoutermans

Thanks guys! @nathdevlin I can align the paint with the bricks, good find!
My screenshot disappeared for some reason from my last post, so here's a small update.  added tarp to the ceiling windows/roof and some other small details. Tomorrow I should really be starting on the left wall and it's props.

Rhoutermans

Starting up this project again! Started with a new concrete material in substance designer / new concrete beam (zbrush) ..tweaked the roughness of the stuff on the floor in the third screenshot...added a railing around the paper press. Next up; making some proper looking damaged wooden planks and the window on the left wall. Glad to be back working on this again

Rhoutermans

installed UE4.18 and redid the lighting, tweaked almost all material colors, without post processing this time. Also made some small props..slowly getting back into this!

Made the base material colors for this prop with white values for instanced material colors usage:

started making smaller refboards per prop:

Some new (preview quality atm) lighting:

Focusing on the windows / paper mill and adding more moss to the scene..more feedback always welcome !

Rhoutermans

Restarting this project after a break So here's a quick screen grab from Substance Painter. Ref for this guy in the first post, feedback always welcome!

Jack M.

Really digging this project so far. You have some nice props and the start to a really solid environment. I'm looking forward to seeing you progress on this.

RustySpannerz

Looks amazing so far, love the little details that you're getting in. 

griffitii

I've had this thread open since last year! Looking forward to your updates!

pixelpatron

Glad your back! Keep after it!

Rhoutermans

Thanks guys More playing around with SP...




Still got some artifacts to take care of, and finish up the last piece..then a final push and it should be ready for export to UE!

Tectonic

that peeling paint on the side is a nice touch. what does your topology look like for that?

Rhoutermans

Tectonic said:

that peeling paint on the side is a nice touch. what does your topology look like for that?

Nothing special, just cutting a hole out and extruding the edges outwards, and yea..trying to fix the topology in such a way it doesn't mess up the bake..quick maya screengrab:

Tectonic

nice! thanks for the wireframe

Rhoutermans

close-up, fixing the final details, still some artifacts to clean up..

Rhoutermans

WIP: Exported it to UE4 & added it to the scene..now for spiderwebs and some decals!



Coming back to this project after a bit of a break I release I need to rework a couple of things, composition and art quality wise, I'm currently making a list with improvements! More screenshots soon! C&C always welcome for the list.

Rhoutermans

Reworking the lighting, I think this looks more interesting. Feedback welcome  

Rhoutermans

Adding spiderwebs..might do another pass for moss and some ivy.

Rhoutermans

Adding moss...still want to add some geometry moss shapes for some silhouette

Rhoutermans

Added some moss geometry (Megascan texture). C&C welcome!

Rhoutermans

gettomg closer.. working on the other side of the room now (off screen) and re-texturing some old meshes like those pipes. Hope to round this project up this month!

Rhoutermans

Checking on a different monitor, less brown is probably better. Still playing around with scene color and lighting.

Sajeet

Looks really  nice! Kepp up the good work

Krystian_Zem

Really nice environment, loving the paper machine and the lighting is neat too. A bit curious though, the rubble on the floor, last image. Is it geometry textured in painter or a tiling texture with Tesselation?

Rhoutermans

Krystian_Zem said:

Really nice environment, loving the paper machine and the lighting is neat too. A bit curious though, the rubble on the floor, last image. Is it geometry textured in painter or a tiling texture with Tesselation?

Thanks, the bigger rubble geometry textured with SP. The smaller pebbles are baked on an alpha plane with some minor parallax occlusion mapping.

Doxturtle

Scenes coming on great how'd you manage to get the moss looking so fluffy?

Rhoutermans

Doxturtle said:

Scenes coming on great how'd you manage to get the moss looking so fluffy?

Thanks! These moss placements are layered, like you'd do a thick ivy wall placement. I just painted them in with the mesh paint tool in UE4. There's some alpha sorting issues if you zoom in real close, but overall it works well enough. I think my scene tri count increased by 1 mil triangles painting in the moss all over the place, though I don't really care as long as my scene runs 60+ to 80  fps.

Here's an unlit view I made in a test scene:

MarcoAntonio

Hey! Nice work with that moss.I usually use mesh layers combined with a shader with a cutoff based on alpha and falloff (done through vertex painting). Your way looks better but it probably consumes some drawcalls. I suppose that you use some merge script or something (or just leave it if you only pursue quality).

TH98

Wow, I'm absolutely loving this. Is it weird that the modeled peeling paint is my favorite part?

Rhoutermans

MarcoAntonio said:

Hey! Nice work with that moss.I usually use mesh layers combined with a shader with a cutoff based on alpha and falloff (done through vertex painting). Your way looks better but it probably consumes some drawcalls. I suppose that you use some merge script or something (or just leave it if you only pursue quality).

Thanks! The moss was a lot of fun to do. I'm not sure how the instanced foliage handles the draw calls, but I think it groups together the foliage on whatever it is you're painting on.
Anyway, here's a /stat scenerendering at around 2100 draw calls . It's all still running smoothly (60 fps) but the tri count is getting to be quite high for the scene, around 10 mil at the moment and I'm not quite done yet. I might have to repaint it a bit less dense in the end.

TH98 said:

Wow, I'm absolutely loving this. Is it weird that the modeled peeling paint is my favorite part?

haha thanks It's one of the things I wanted to do some more of. Might do it still on some other props , wanted to redo the pipes anyway.

Mepra

This looks amazing , keep up the good work

ParasAhuja

Really great work man, keep it up.

Finnn

Man your scene is really coming to life! Great to see all the detail work you alreay put into it. Some thoughts I have on the colors in your scene. You could introduce some color variation, away from green and brown to maybe some orange/red or something more eye catching like a light blue.
I was thinking of changin the door color for example and draw more attention to them. Just some thoughts, its a great scene already. I especially like the moss and your environment textures.
Looking forward to see more

Rhoutermans

Finnn said:

Man your scene is really coming to life! Great to see all the detail work you alreay put into it. Some thoughts I have on the colors in your scene. You could introduce some color variation, away from green and brown to maybe some orange/red or something more eye catching like a light blue.
I was thinking of changin the door color for example and draw more attention to them. Just some thoughts, its a great scene already. I especially like the moss and your environment textures.
Looking forward to see more

Thanks! I might give the door thing another try, or change the color of the bigger pipes. I'll try something to add some color variation in there

Starting with the pipes for now..trying out some more blue in the scene tonight.

driftprincess_z

awesome work!! What's your art station and do you by any chance do tutorials for materials or  lighting?

Rhoutermans

driftprincess_z said:

awesome work!! What's your art station and do you by any chance do tutorials for materials or  lighting?

Thanks!  https://www.artstation.com/rhoutermans

I might write down some stuff soon, it's all a pretty simple workflow but it's good to get it out there

Rhoutermans

More spam..redid the pipes, and added more blue elements to the scene, also pushed the value of orange beams a bit more.





Thanks for the C&C so far!

Rhoutermans

Working on the other side of the room, still have to do some more setdressing.

ajr2764

Solid work man, keep it up!

SteampunkPaladin

Really solid work, looking forward to seeing  where you take it!

Some graffiti decals could be a great opportunity for some color Break up, and might work well as another layer of storytelling.

driftprincess_z

Rhoutermans said:

driftprincess_z said:

awesome work!! What's your art station and do you by any chance do tutorials for materials or  lighting?

Thanks!  https://www.artstation.com/rhoutermans

I might write down some stuff soon, it's all a pretty simple workflow but it's good to get it out there

Please let me know if you do a write up/tips anything that can help, I am currently updating my portfolio with UE4 and the substance programs. I would greatly appreciate it, I love your work on art station!!!

Rhoutermans

SteampunkPaladin said:

Really solid work, looking forward to seeing  where you take it!

Some graffiti decals could be a great opportunity for some color Break up, and might work well as another layer of storytelling.

I've tried doing graffiti stuff once and it didn't work out great Made it look kinda cheap, but thanks for the critique! 

driftprincess_z said:

Rhoutermans said:

driftprincess_z said:

awesome work!! What's your art station and do you by any chance do tutorials for materials or  lighting?

Thanks!  https://www.artstation.com/rhoutermans

I might write down some stuff soon, it's all a pretty simple workflow but it's good to get it out there

Please let me know if you do a write up/tips anything that can help, I am currently updating my portfolio with UE4 and the substance programs. I would greatly appreciate it, I love your work on art station!!!

I got some stuff coming up that I'll probably post here as well

For now, I've updated the windows on the left wall with blue glass and a white frame for some more color values..also updated the back of the room.




Hoping to round it up this weekend!

Rhoutermans

driftprincess_z said:

Rhoutermans said:

driftprincess_z said:

awesome work!! What's your art station and do you by any chance do tutorials for materials or  lighting?

Thanks!  https://www.artstation.com/rhoutermans

I might write down some stuff soon, it's all a pretty simple workflow but it's good to get it out there

Please let me know if you do a write up/tips anything that can help, I am currently updating my portfolio with UE4 and the substance programs. I would greatly appreciate it, I love your work on art station!!!

Check out this article on 80.lv for some more info about this scene If you have any other questions I'm happy to answer them here!

 https://80.lv/articles/building-artistic-environments-with-scanned-assets/