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Zbrush rock sculpting, how to get those "clean details".

grimsonfart
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Hi!

I am trying to sculpt rocks in Zbrush, but i find my results to be quiet messy and looks like i'm trying to add too much into it. I see a lot of pictures with rocks that has very clean details along with hard edges.

http://vincent-gros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cliff_Rock_01.jpg

This is kind of what i'm after, but i can't get a grasp on it. Any tips for getting such results? What brushes are best?

Another example: http://kevinchanart.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/6/5/13653304/3566564_orig.png?748

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