Critique much appreciated (head sculpt WIP)
polycounter lvl 3
So seeing all the fantastic artwork being posted here makes me think five times before making a thread myself, but I've reached a point in my current sculpt where I could really use a second opinion. So essentially: it this any good?
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Other wise its cool, I cant sculpt for shit so anatomy is the only thing I can critique. Good luck !
Christ, I wonder how exactly I'm supposed to interpret your feedback. For example nastobi123 expressed his opinion on the anatomy and that is concrete and solid feedback that I can act upon. Your feedback on the other hand is... go back to the drawing board? Because that's pretty much the only way I can interpret it. I mean sure 2 weeks of studying anatomy isn't going to reap benefits on my first sculpt following that but then again I'm pretty damn sure no artist made a perfect piece on their first attempt after learning the theory. And yes I still have plenty to learn, no doubt about that, but I came here to get opinions on the sculpt. Not be ridiculed and told something I know all too well.
Start with the overall shapes and proportions of the head and then go into the details. Allways dubble check the proportions before you adding, for example defined lips and teeth, details.
https://warosu.org/data/ic/img/0016/87/1395670599047.jpg
https://www.anatomy4sculptors.com/anatomy.php
Keep it up :thumbup:
Don't take this the wrong way, but this learning process can be frustrating and tedious. When someone critiques your work or tells you it looks wrong, it's not a personal attack. We're all here to help each other become better artists. TeriyakiStyle's critique may have seemed a little harsh, but that's his approach to helping. I thought he handled your response very well. This thread could've easily turned into a shouting match but it didn't. It doesn't help you to be defensive. Putting your work out there for the world to see can be very humbling and you should keep doing it to improve faster. Just remember, there are no two words more useless on this forum than "good job".
check it out
Drop down the sub divs, work on the planes of the face. Dont rush to that high poly so quick, I sometimes have the same issue.
Her head is too lumpy, and her neck is too big.
Focus on getting the skull just right, otherwise its going to show tremendously.
Just keep doing it over and over and over again.
PS: dont ask is it good, state what you want to do, then look for critiques. IT makes it much easier for others to help guide you if they know where you're trying to go.
Here's a tip that I follow to this day.
Dont take every criticism personally, but DO take them all seriously.
And as I should have expected the "use lower subdiv levels" came up... I'll be honest with you, I despise sculpting below a certain threshold. But isn't the whole point of those lower subdiv levels to force the artist to concentrate on the large forms? By that logic using higher subdiv shouldn't be an issue so long as I ignore small details until the general form feels right. And frankly I can't determine if that's the case without some landmarks such as the eyes, mouth and nose- which require a larger polycount than you seem to recommend. On a side note, and I may be talking out of my ass here, sculpting actual clay is effectively working with an infinite polycount. So I would think the process then boils down more to your mindset and correct order of priorities rather than contriving ways to limit yourself. That's just my opinon though.
And defining planes is more than possible at the polycount I'm working with I think:
Also I was writing a reply an hour or so ago but the power went out, so here is that bit:
Well, where to start eh? First off my response to TeriyakiStyle was way too impulsive and I shouldn't have responded like that. That was fueled mostly by me thinking "here I think I'm getting somewhere with this and this is the only response I get?". Guess I need to distance myself from my work a little and not respond so immaturely.
That said while I value all input (hey, at least you stopped by, had a look and took the time to write) there is something about being redirected to other learning places that leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth. Not because I don't think I need them, but because I've either already read all there was there or still am studying the content there.
the ears should be smaller and the back head bone should be more convex (side view). The head is getting narrower,
other than that, Cheers,
Just dropping by to second this. It's much easier to smooth out and move around shapes at a lower subdiv. It looks odd, yes, but as you slowly move up the point-count you have more and more control over what you need to have control over at that point in the workflow. If you start at a very high pointcount, then smoothing is much harder, and the move tool moves small areas. It means you'll end up with this sort of muddy, unclear sculpt that comes from working a muddy, unclear base. It's a phenomenon that is well documented, on this very forum no less. You've heard it before, evidently, so why the resistance?
Keep it up.
Because the polycount suggested is so low I'm unable to lay down the landmarks. I just end up shifting everything anyway when I go higher since it's evident the base had the wrong proportions. I'm being told to use lower subdivisions but nobody actually cares to mention what to do with it. Every single tutorial I have watched goes into my preferred poly range after blocking the general shape (ie an egg for the head, a sausage for the arm etc) so I have no idea what to do with the low polycount that people keep telling me to use.
That base mesh he uses for the heads is about the point count you want. Look how it's pushed and pulled until it'd got the silhouette and features he wants and for the most part in the correct place... then he goes up one subdiv, and does what he can there, rinse and repeat.
A lot of people who work immediately at high subdivs already have the knowledge and know-how to make a form in zbrush quickly without making stuff lumpy, but it's not necessarily ideal. It's just the workflow they may have developed. Even super-smooth work like Supremefunk's tends to stay at a lower, faceted, easy to smooth subdiv until the main forms are blocked out.
Anyway, there's some examples. Check 'em out.