Hand painted/sculpted texture

Polynaut

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New Project:


Final texture:


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Testing out some hand painted textures.. I would love some feedback on this.

ps:


marmoset:


zbrush:


I feel like this would be the base that I would paint over, to give it more of a painterly feel, but I'm not sure where to take it from here.

Spoon

I like what you have so far in terms of style, but I have no idea what material this is, which I think is super important to make absolutely clear Also, the damage or what it is seems completely random, but maybe I am misinterpreting it.
Where do you want to go with this?

Polynaut

if it's not being interpreted well - then I probably didn't execute well! Here is the aim of what I'm going for:



just a simple stone paver.

Polynaut

ok. made some tweaks.. mainly pulled back the cavity and lighting info inside the stones themselves so they look a bit more even over-all.



by the way, I'm not going for an exact color match, just trying to capture that style.

Fwap

Its a really good start man, your cavity is still really strong, almost metallic like.
the style is defiantly on its way tho, lets see some real time renders?

Tobbo

Yeah I agree. I think it could be pulled back much more still.

Jedairusz

I think, you should change contrast of your texture.
Paintover:

metric meditation

so far so good I am more biased to painting everything from scratch, but so far your composition is looking great. Looking forward to seeing some cracks and stepping away from the mono-tone look

You values are good. lets see what can be done about the color

MeshModeler

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Fenyce

Nice sculpt, but I think that layered rock is a little to high. I'd do is more decent next time, since it looks kinda odd, Fanny did it more decent in her tutorial, I guess.
But I really enjoy those little details you added.

Polynaut

Thanks for all the helpful crits guys/gals! Here is where I'm at currently:

stevston89

I would look at playing with the height of each brick. It will add a lot of depth that you are currently lacking.

EDIT: Should mention I meant in the Zbrush sculpt not the low poly.

Sort of like this:

Polynaut

ok - this is what I'm calling done on this unless there is something fundamentally wrong with what I've done so far.

The main thing I learned on this project was the interior cracks and height changes need to be secondary lighting info - so not as bold as the edge highlights and shadows. Also, subtle light changes make a big difference when there is not spec/gloss/roughness maps involved.

Thanks again for all the help spotting trouble areas for me!



Also threw Fanny's texture in the marmoset render to give myself a better idea of what I was shooting for:

CarlK3D

Wow looks great. Love the Style, reminds me of DOTA 2
I do like the one on the right of the last Image more, looks more natural, less visual noise. I'm not sure if you used nDo 2 to bake your AO but It's giving that type of Colored AO effect nDo 2 gives makes it look a bit metal since it uses Blue and Red
I like the design more to
Keep it up!

Polynaut

Thanks for the feedback again. I went back in and toned down the bricks a bit more to remove most of the noise. The last things that are really bothering me now are the L shaped stone and the 2 big stones that repeat a seams line going up the 'path'. Anyway, here is my progress.

Polynaut

And here is a new project I just started:

concept: (not sure who did this, but I would love to find out)


block out:

Danglebob

Looks like its two concepts chopped up into one. And they both belong to Artyom Vlaskin. (did one of his/her shields a while back as well)

I think what you have is a solid start. Excited to see where you take it.

MexPineapple

Those stone floors look very nice. They've got good wear and I'm loving the almost slate-like look.
Maybe chopping one of the big stones into two stones might help? Or you could replace two small stones with a big one.

The shield is looking great so far, but it seems a lot more spaced out/bigger than the concept. What I mean is that, in the concept, the left and right arrows are thicker and covering both of the skeleton's eye sockets. Making the arrows thicker and less sharp around the edges might help.

Polynaut

lunch crunched on this a bit. Changed the size of some of the stuff and was able to do a quick edge wear pass on most of the pieces.

Polynaut

josh_lynch

The shield has some good progress on it. I know your still working on it, but I would not be afraid to go in and vary up the pock sizes and damage.



The stones feel a bit wobbly in certain parts, like they have too much surface undulation. If you look at the reference you provide from Fanny's work there is little to no surface undulation, its subtle.

As well I would add more line variation to your steps on the stops, more thick to thin.

Look forward to seeing more!

Polynaut

Latest revision:

Polynaut

I'm not really even done with the sculpt, but I really wanted to test out the zbrush to game res workflow on a piece like this. Just a simple color block out with AO overlayed.. nothing even close to final yet.

ps file:


maya game res:


The game res is just under 1000 tri's. Not really sure what a good count is on something in this style, but it seems low in my opinion. Wouldn't be too hard to get that count down pretty quick and let the normal map take care of the inner detail.

ZacD

The scale of the detail on the skulls doesn't make the rest of the design and shield. They need to be chunkier and more defined. I also feel with the polycount of the rest of the model, you should be able to model out the skulls in the low poly instead of them being flat details.

Grindigo

I think skulls throw the design of this shield completely off balance, it does not match the other material type for example if I wanted to have skulls on the shield then I'd make the shield out of bones and leather rather than thick iron and wood, it does not make any sense, so right now it's better off without the skulls and it would be better to put some chunky piece in the middle with pattern to match other patterns, this way it will make sense, I'd personally keep the skulls as an idea for another shield, make the whole thing out of thick bones strapped together with leather.

Fenyce

Biggest issue is that the skulls do not look like they've been made from wood or metal. And for real skulls they are to flat. So it seems unfitting. I'd revisit the skulls and make them look more like craftes from metal, with the intention of being rather flat. Like the metal edges of the shield itself.

I know you are sticking to that concept, but that's something that's coming along kinda weird in the concept itself.
And it's kinda sad that it ruins your great work, because the metal and wood parts really look great! In my opinions you did a fantastic job on those!

Polynaut

Alright, so I didn't really know where I was going to take the skull anyway - after all the critiques I went back to the original concept:


ps file:


Marmoset unlit shader:

Polynaut

been struggling to get that metal to look right.. I still don't feel like it has a hand painted quality to it.

Polynaut

Someone at work schooled me on local color, which was making my last post look like a milk chocolate shield.. mmmmm!

Marmoset unlit shader: