Appreciate all the feedback guys! Thanks to Steam for being down for nearly 8 hours, it wasted some of the promotions on our pages n youtube thus killing lotta ratings!
And now its time for us to Start our Work for Spring2014 event, coming up with a SOLID Chinese theme would be hard! Once we have a solid concept, ill be posting it here, Cheers~
Ok so its time for me to join the parade, this is what we'll be doing for the Spring2014!!!
I have just one doubt here, since this would be for CHINESE NEW YEAR! and if these sets are for Chinese players too where almost everything related to "BLOOD, BONE, MEAT" is censored ! Would the Hook be a problem?? -.- its like Bone + flesh + blood, a bit gore! or should we make this set non-bloody and clean for Chinese players? im a bit confused about this part!
Here is the concept, opinions, feedback and suggestions welcome as always!
Ok so its time for me to join the parade, there is what we'll be doing for the Spring2014!!!
I have just one doubt here, since this would be for CHINESE NEW YEAR! and if these sets are for Chinese players too where almost everything related to "BLOOD, BONE, MEAT" is censored ! Would the Hook be a problem?? -.- its like Bone + flesh + blood, a bit gore! or should we make this set non-bloody and clean for Chinese players? im a bit confused about this part!
Here is the concept, opinions, feedback and suggestions welcome as always!
very nice concept, reminds me of the anime/manga "中華一番/中華小廚師 Cooking master ...there is one character very short and round too hehe...
If the meat is clearly the haunch of an animal or something that's not human I think that would be allowed.
Thanks for that info! i guess i'm gonna do a Censored and Uncensored version for the set, the censored one will be replacing the 'Bones' with 'Wood' and 'Blood' with 'Dirt'. This is an alternate concept with a juicy steak on his hand! donno if i should put this one with the uncensored bundle !
Generally, you run into issues with chinese censorship as soon as you portray skulls or exposed bones in general, so that is most likely to be avoided. If you're curious, google something like "WoW Wrath of the Lich King china censorship" If I recall correctly, they released that expansion about half a year after the EU/US counterpart because of the abundant use of creatures without flesh/uundead/halfdead. So you probably will be able to gather a lot of info on that issue and challenges WoW specifically faced (I dont think exposed flesh is as big of an issue as exposed bone, but reseearch never hurts )
Generally, you run into issues with chinese censorship as soon as you portray skulls or exposed bones in general, so that is most likely to be avoided. If you're curious, google something like "WoW Wrath of the Lich King china censorship" If I recall correctly, they released that expansion about half a year after the EU/US counterpart because of the abundant use of creatures without flesh/uundead/halfdead. So you probably will be able to gather a lot of info on that issue and challenges WoW specifically faced (I dont think exposed flesh is as big of an issue as exposed bone, but reseearch never hurts )
is that bone or skull/ skeleton to be specific that china gov wanted to censor? i think that is something called low-violence policy there for china.
As far as I recall, it has something to to with the asian culture of honoring the remains of the dead and not displaying them bare. I could be completely off base here though here so feel free to correct me, but the general idea is that portraying anything dead/dying is a big no-no.
As far as I recall, it has something to to with the asian culture of honoring the remains of the dead and not displaying them bare. I could be completely off base here though here so feel free to correct me, but the general idea is that portraying anything dead/dying is a big no-no.
ho ho this one i'm not really sure for morden mindset of chinese. well at least china side...
i also wanted to know what is the concept that censoring those in games.... i only know Thailand extreme censorship in TV media... you can google that.
they did censor shoe base, swimsuit, nipple (male) if not mistaken... http://kotaku.com/thailands-anime-censorship-sure-is-strict-1106256597
Thailand Censorship....its like half of the show is blurred, oh boy no1 would enjoy watching anime there for sure.
Well i really wanna thank both u guys for giving me so much input regarding this and i'm gonna do both censored and uncensored style for Pudge, rest is upto Valve! and the Uncensored one would be exactly as u saw in the concept! Bones and Meat !
The textures just BLUR OUT! the wooden talisman i did is getting so blurred even after allocating some decent UV to it, does anyone know how to fix this? ive tried multiple methods including messing around with masks and etc but nothing changed much, this has been happening with all my previous works (especially the URSA belt piece i did before was blurred like this) which is now becoming something i don't want to overlook anymore. Any fix for this? ive noticed lotta people avoid such detail so this doesn't happen....
The texture resolution for the belt is only 128x256, that is WAY too low for so many parts and details, and with no mirroring either? I'd adjust the concept and lod0 so you can at least mirror parts of it, and also so it's a single piece allowing for you to make better use of the texture space. There is a LOT of empty space that could be used to increase detail, although I don't know if you'll be able to get the symbol to show up clearly no matter what you do with such low resolution requirements.
@Mrpresident, thanks man, i modified the UV like u said, and now its way better than before!!
The set is almost done!, working on promo n video, and the great Wei-Zi painting the Loading-screen as always! ill post the final output when its done, Cheers~
Well i didn't get any new concepts at first and was planning to throw in the towel for Spring when Wei and me discussed and got this Pudge concept, then i started working on it nonstop from then, and im used to doing a Pudge set, so i guess apart from the blurred texture on the new 7th slot, everything else went smooth n fast! so yea its almost done here is a pic from Marmoset! also the offhand and hook was something i finished sometime before for my previous pudge set but never used it, so i had them previously done, kinda fastened things up, and the most time spend was on the hair, but now its almost done.
Waiting for the bug on workshop to get fixed before releasing Pudge !
In the meantime here is another concept for our 2nd Set for Spring event, already started sculpting this, just worried about the low poly distribution for Sven.
Two things:
1 - Will you be able to make him hold the weapon with two hands with a straight grip?
2 - How will you handle the ponytail in terms of jiggle?
@Vayne, will do something about the 2 hand style during sculpting, and yea im worried about the ponytail cause there are no bones there -_- , im just gonna go for it like always n see what happens !
Why censor out the flesh portion? Just make a non violence version in addition to the current one. It just seems like a lazy cop out for valve to add a universal non violence version just so all of his cosmetics would be compatible for both regions.
This also probably means that lifestealer is going to be redone, ugh.
This Pudge is total Badass!! I like it allot.
Only thing that I am a bit worried about is his parts composition. To be precise his back part being his ponytail, and arm piece being placed on his shoulder. I know that Pudge right now is huge mess, and he don't have clear border between parts. In the end I hope there will be no problem with that
Other than that fantastic job. Illustration just blew my mind!!
Konras , Thanks buddy, the reason the back piece came out like that was that it wont collide with the existing two sets, and the wood-block and knife on his right shoulder was a bit of a gamble, but currently it doesn't cause any problems with the existing sets, so we gave it a go.
Waiting for the bug on workshop to get fixed before releasing Pudge !
In the meantime here is another concept for our 2nd Set for Spring event, already started sculpting this, just worried about the low poly distribution for Sven.
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And now its time for us to Start our Work for Spring2014 event, coming up with a SOLID Chinese theme would be hard! Once we have a solid concept, ill be posting it here, Cheers~
Even if he has an eye of sauron
I have just one doubt here, since this would be for CHINESE NEW YEAR! and if these sets are for Chinese players too where almost everything related to "BLOOD, BONE, MEAT" is censored ! Would the Hook be a problem?? -.- its like Bone + flesh + blood, a bit gore! or should we make this set non-bloody and clean for Chinese players? im a bit confused about this part!
Here is the concept, opinions, feedback and suggestions welcome as always!
very nice concept, reminds me of the anime/manga "中華一番/中華小廚師 Cooking master ...there is one character very short and round too hehe...
the new hook design is great!
As for chinese censorship, back when WoW was censored all over the place it appeared to be any imagery associated with the death of people:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/03/wowskeletonstohumanz.jpg
http://images.mmosite.com/my/upload/cc/b4/hyuk/09/0729/20090729231456_182.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j4jxlrk3ahfjpg/ku-medium.jpg (red parts were removed/changed)
If the meat is clearly the haunch of an animal or something that's not human I think that would be allowed.
Thanks for that info! i guess i'm gonna do a Censored and Uncensored version for the set, the censored one will be replacing the 'Bones' with 'Wood' and 'Blood' with 'Dirt'. This is an alternate concept with a juicy steak on his hand! donno if i should put this one with the uncensored bundle !
is that bone or skull/ skeleton to be specific that china gov wanted to censor? i think that is something called low-violence policy there for china.
ho ho this one i'm not really sure for morden mindset of chinese. well at least china side...
i also wanted to know what is the concept that censoring those in games.... i only know Thailand extreme censorship in TV media... you can google that.
they did censor shoe base, swimsuit, nipple (male) if not mistaken...
http://kotaku.com/thailands-anime-censorship-sure-is-strict-1106256597
Well i really wanna thank both u guys for giving me so much input regarding this and i'm gonna do both censored and uncensored style for Pudge, rest is upto Valve! and the Uncensored one would be exactly as u saw in the concept! Bones and Meat !
The set is almost done!, working on promo n video, and the great Wei-Zi painting the Loading-screen as always! ill post the final output when its done, Cheers~
Well i didn't get any new concepts at first and was planning to throw in the towel for Spring when Wei and me discussed and got this Pudge concept, then i started working on it nonstop from then, and im used to doing a Pudge set, so i guess apart from the blurred texture on the new 7th slot, everything else went smooth n fast! so yea its almost done here is a pic from Marmoset! also the offhand and hook was something i finished sometime before for my previous pudge set but never used it, so i had them previously done, kinda fastened things up, and the most time spend was on the hair, but now its almost done.
Waiting for Final touches from Wei for the loading screen.
Here are some shots from the promo.
In the meantime here is another concept for our 2nd Set for Spring event, already started sculpting this, just worried about the low poly distribution for Sven.
1 - Will you be able to make him hold the weapon with two hands with a straight grip?
2 - How will you handle the ponytail in terms of jiggle?
@Prosomogy Thanks !
Insaneophobia thanks buddy! u always help out, ill try that during skinning.
Crossing fingers, I hope to see that Sven set making the deadline
This also probably means that lifestealer is going to be redone, ugh.
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Only thing that I am a bit worried about is his parts composition. To be precise his back part being his ponytail, and arm piece being placed on his shoulder. I know that Pudge right now is huge mess, and he don't have clear border between parts. In the end I hope there will be no problem with that
Other than that fantastic job. Illustration just blew my mind!!
Illustration credits to dear my friend Wei-Zi!
His helmet kinda reminds me of Gundam