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Vayne4800

Well. I thought I need to start get busy. Currently I am both learning and working on a project and waiting approval to work on a second one.

So to start off, I have this concept of a Juggernaut weapon



As your can see. My concept skills aren't that good even though I believe I have the idea almost grasped.

The weapon is supposed to be a cross between a straight katana and a cleaver.
The blade would be ivory white with the engraving being red. True to Juggernaut color. The pointy side is outwards which is a direction opposite to current Juggernaut weapons and which all go inward.

The handle though could need some work. Though I am having a hard time coming up with a design that is simple yet attractive.

Comments and assistance is appreciated.

I have already begun modeling it Max.

Vayne4800

Until I get some solid idea on the handle, I already begun modeling the blade. Here is how it looks like in Max:



Next I will work on the handle before going back to refine the blade.

Vayne4800

I modified slightly the blade and added a handle. Would really appreciate any feedback. Vanilla Juggernaut weapon is included for reference.



Here it is in Mudbox before any real work being done on it:

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The item has been uploaded to the workshop. I still need to add a lot of images showcasing the weapon.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=147352412

Vayne4800

I have started modeling Sharc's Clinkz bow in 3Dsmax. Since this is a none-uniform model, I might face some challenges down the road. Still, going forward. Any early advice is appreciated.

Vayne4800

Finished outlining the concept into Max. Next will be giving the outline some third dimension to it. Note that I outlined each element separately.

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After a minor pause on the bow, I am progressing rather steadily. Aiming to finish at around the end of this week.

With that said, I am looking to collaborate with a concept artist for the June competition. I am also looking forward into making a set this time around. Any takers? Keep in mind I am still a beginner and not really that fast. Though either way, I aim to finish.

Vayne4800

Progress on Clinkz bow. basically I am mostly done with base mesh. Would like some critique before I move to sculpting.

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Well, I finally finished the sculpt on the bow. I think it is beginner quality sculpting but considering the concept and size ingame, I think it is enough for this model atleast. I would really really like some critique or comments on this as I go forward. Recently, I am having a sense that unless I am some known artist, noone cares. I hope I am wrong.

Sukotto

One thing that stands out to me is I don't really know what this is made of? I'm assuming its bone but it doesn't look like bone at all. Bones really aren't lumpy they are usually just tapered cylinders with slight bends and stuff. And the dragon skull doesn't look like a skull at all and its a bit too cartoony looking for Dota what with the chunky teeth.
Also, I don't really know how this is held together? You have straps on the bottom but nowhere else. Its a good start but needs to extra work to make it shine, it's definitely a cool idea!

Vayne4800

Really appreciate your feedback Sukotto. I tried to stick to the concept almost exactly, if that can be said. Though I do agree completely with your points. I am already at the retopo stage so hard to make changes.

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After some murderous attempts on retopology to bring the triangle count to the restriction limits, I am facing a familiar issue that I have no idea how to solve. Basically, I skin the bow to the right bone. Ingame, it is in his hand on all animations EXCEPT when he is running/not stationary. Any ideas how to solve that?

Also, I unwrapped LOD0 and have the base textures and maps. The thing is, I did the wrapping after I already have prepared LOD1. So, how can I go around mapping LOD1 with LOD0 maps?

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Bump for help :S

Noth

both lod's should have the same maps. You can literally just collapse edges in the higher res one and (so long as they aren't boarder edges) the uvs will just kind of resolve themselves and present your texture properly.

Vote + favs me up :P Lemme know you have ne more questions.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=151715254

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The thing is I already have prepared the lod1 model before I unwrapped lod0. Took quite the effort to go from 500 to 400 triangles considering the shape of the bow. That is why I am asking if I can somehow just import the uvm from the lod0 to lod1.

Neox

nope, well you could try transfer attributes in maya, but maybe i'm wrong. i know no way to do this in max for instance

Vayne4800

Alright, I guess I can survive reducing triangles again from lod0. What remains is how to fix the floating weapon issue on run animation. I have some ideas I want to try out but was hoping if someone had this issue and resolved it.

Neox

does it happen ingame as well or just in the previewer?

Noth

well if you unwrapped lod0 (the higher one) then smashed it down to meet the requirments of lod1 it should have the uvs good already.

If not and somehow you need to transfer uvs. I don't think you can since the vertex order is now seriously different.

Vayne4800

Neox wrote: »

does it happen ingame as well or just in the previewer?

Well, in game is lod1 fbx but since I used the same method, then the issue still present there too. So any action and the bow is in hand. When he runs, it floats.

Vayne4800

Finalization. Comments. Be harsh, my feels will be intact ^^.

Neox

you could definitely give it more readability, its all brown in brown, making it impossible to keep it readable from gameview

Vayne4800

Neox wrote: »

you could definitely give it more readability, its all brown in brown, making it impossible to keep it readable from gameview

True, any suggestions on how I can improve that? Currently is colored based on the concept but as you said, it is causing readability issues ingame. Any links or examples would be appreciated it. In the mean time I will experiment and see what I can come up with.

Vayne4800

Not sure if i made it better or worse. Really need some guidance here.

ike_ike

i think you should push the values closer to those of the horns on his hat. the shape isn't reading too well even in radiant day time, so i imagine that on the dire side at night it's pretty much invisible.

if you wanna keep it dark i guess you could play with the selfillum and add some lava cracks and glow to the spheres

vlad_the_implyer

beetrootChan wrote: »

i think you should push the values closer to those of the horns on his hat. the shape isn't reading too well even in radiant day time, so i imagine that on the dire side at night it's pretty much invisible.

if you wanna keep it dark i guess you could play with the selfillum and add some lava cracks and glow to the spheres

Invisible bow, huh? I think you're onto something!

Vayne4800

Well, the orbs and eyes already have have selfillum plus their surrounding. I guess I can improve it by adding more yellow to the orange.

@beetrootChan: Horn values, do you mean the reflected light or the bone color? If it is the latter, I have been rolling that idea on my mind for a while.

vlad_the_implyer

Vayne4800 wrote: »

@beetrootChan: Horn values, do you mean the reflected light or the bone color? If it is the latter, I have been rolling that idea on my mind for a while.

Yeah, i think he means that you need to make the bow way brighter for it to be noticeable

TravelMate

nice work

Vayne4800

Alright, I made a ton of fixes and changes to the texture, that it should be cleaner and readable from a distance. With that said, here is my almost final work. Please critique before I start working on marketing material.

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And the bow is done. Please vote if you like:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154170398

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Juggernaut sword blockout, concept by Stefco.

iRYO400

simply perfect. but want to see the result. good luck

Vayne4800

Just a WIP sneak peek:

kendmd

I think the hilt (or the sword guard thing) can have a more interesting silhouette than just a circle.

Vayne4800

kendmd wrote: »

I think the hilt (or the sword guard thing) can have a more interesting silhouette than just a circle.

You aren't the first one to mention that. I might bring it up to the concept artist to see what can be done.

Vayne4800

Windrunner bow sculpt based on a concept by Hellmouth:

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I believe I got the color maps in their final form. Critique as you like. The masks are almost done. Though I do plan to play with the gold part to give it a metallic gold feel similar to Nyx armor. Then adjust the rig so that the gold pieces do not move and that only the wood parts do during attack animation.

Your critique is highly appreciated.

Spudnik

Lookin good!

Nikey

Yeah, looks good!

Reyne

That WR bow is really nice I would love to see it in game.

Lennyagony

Nice one Vayne, your work just keeps getting better and better!

Vayne4800

Thanks guys. Means a lot to me coming from you.

Here is the finished bow.


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=164105254

Hellmouth

Looking sweet, man!

Vayne4800

And it is done. Thanks to Stefco for concept, texture and promo art.


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=164680698

Hope you like it.

Vayne4800

Finished another item with amazing Stefco. I asked him to give me a quick item and he gave me this!

You can see in the image below the process going from concept, modeling (3Dsmax), sculpting and polypainting (Zbrush, thanks Vlad for your video) and finally retopo with textures. The lighting isn't normalized between the steps but rather to illustrate the flow.



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Umbrage and OH by Vayne4800 and Stefco

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Decided to go out of my way and try an item that isn't a weapon. Again worked Stefco on this.

Feathered Torment by Vayne4800 and Stefco

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Alright, new stuff that was late for September competition but still managed to finish it. based on Fox/Fishie's concept. This was also my first experience in modeling hair. I think I learned a lot and a lot to learn still.

Horns of the Bloodletter by Vayne and Fishie







Hope you like it.

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Here is some super early progress of Ike's Razor set blockout. I think the form is getting there but I am having some doubts regarding sillhoutte since I am somehow hitting the limits. Which isn't bad, imo. Crits are appreciated. This project is going on backstage and very slowly.

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I missed working on some hardsurface item, basically a sharp weapon, and so I picked up this Abaddon sword concept by Mango and this is the progress of the blockout. Should be able to finish it within the next two days and get back to the big stuff.

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Polypaint with matcap materials. A bit dark but this is the most reasonable shine I managed to get. Will adjust further and clean up the paint.